Nvidia Keynote at CES

[rattacko123]

Just now, Technicolors said:

so was the 1080Ti announced or not? 

no, mostly just ai

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[Paradine Sage]

1 minute ago, Technicolors said:

so was the 1080Ti announced or not? 

No, it was not announced.

[Notional]

5 minutes ago, Energycore said:

That's a flawed notion. Different monitors have different input lag, and that's even in the Freesync / Gsync version of the same panel (take for instane, the AOC G2460PF which has more input lag than the G2460PQU). So actually, that particular Freesync monitor has less input lag than that particular Gsync monitor.

Yes, Linus's methodology is wrong there, what a shocker

 

Well all gsync monitors uses the same Gsync modules (well of the different gens, I think there are 2 now). So it should be the same on all Gsync monitors. As for Freesync, sure, but that still disproves the point, that freesyc has a higher latency than gsync. It can, and it can have a lower latency as well.

11 minutes ago, App4that said:

Freesync don't not allow the graphics card to control the monitor. That's GSYNC. 

Yes, that's exactly that Freesync does. I'm not sure you understand how this all works.

3 minutes ago, App4that said:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2974781/displays/g-sync-vs-freesync-faq-how-variable-refresh-rate-displays-make-pc-games-super-smooth.html

What am I supposed to do with that old article? It says nothing about latency.

[Guest Kloaked]

4 minutes ago, App4that said:

I think this is a issue of semantics and I guaranty you have the sobriety advantage here. 

 

There is no Freesync chip, module, or thingamabob. My point

No, but there is an Adaptive Sync hardware spec that which is required for FreeSync to actually work, much in the same way that there needs to be a G-Sync module in a desktop monitor for G-Sync to work.

 

How the two GPU vendors interface with the monitor and control it may be different, but they both have a hardware requirement.

[SteveGrabowski0]

6 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

tl;dr summary in op?

GeForce Now: $25 for 20 hours

 

Also Nvidia will nag you and tell you to pull over if you get pissed off when driving.

[Guest Kloaked]

3 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

GeForce Now: $25 for 20 hours

 

Also Nvidia will nag you and tell you to pull over if you get pissed off when driving.

Someone's salty.

[Scionyde]

5 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

no, mostly just ai

We probably shouldn't have gotten our hopes up - it's not like Nvidia has any real need to release the 1080 Ti unless AMD's Vega flagship considerably outperforms the 1080.

[Energycore]

What's Geforce Now? I genuinely didn't catch the stream.

And more importantly will it give people the 1080 Ti they want.

[Jahramika]

30 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Pretty sure Jen-Hsun said everything they do is thanks to their success in the GPU from PC gaming.

 

Their Shield is also a gaming device if you want it to be one. I'm personally going to be getting one when I move.

They are fucking doing that. How do you think they came up with Pascal? Kepler? Everything before that? Just because they didn't release an overpriced GPU today, you're mad? Grow up.

Shit I am not mad could care less would never  buy any over priced Nvidia product at this point long ago I use to no more. Actions say more than words. He is steal gamers money to invest in areas that has nothing too do with gaming. I wont even get into the cloud gaming garbage. Now Nvidia wants to play the role of computer slum lords.

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, Notional said:

Well all gsync monitors uses the same Gsync modules (well of the different gens, I think there are 2 now). So it should be the same on all Gsync monitors. As for Freesync, sure, but that still disproves the point, that freesyc has a higher latency than gsync. It can, and it can have a lower latency as well.

Yes, that's exactly that Freesync does. I'm not sure you understand how this all works.

What am I supposed to do with that old article? It says nothing about latency.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-g-sync-or-amd-freesync-pick-a-side-and-stick-with-it/

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

What's Geforce Now? I genuinely didn't catch the stream.

And more importantly will it give people the 1080 Ti they want.

Cloud gaming, so you can game on any PC or Mac even using a iGPU. Everything is handled server side. 

[Notional]

2 minutes ago, App4that said:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-g-sync-or-amd-freesync-pick-a-side-and-stick-with-it/

Again, you are just spamming links. There's nothing about latency there either. And it's a 1½ years old article. You have nothing to back up your arguments, maybe, just maybe you are wrong?

[Carclis]

43 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

It was mostly high expectations and no mention of gaming at all. most of Nvidia revenue is still gaming

Actually they mentioned gaming when they showed off Mass Effect Andromeda as a "Hey we still make gaming graphics cards". It's kinda disappointing and almost felt like they removed the 1080ti since there was no purpose to that part of the presentation. I'm guessing they just didn't want to release the 1080ti yet.

[App4that]

1 minute ago, Notional said:

Again, you are just spamming links. There's nothing about latency there either. And it's a 1½ years old article. You have nothing to back up your arguments, maybe, just maybe you are wrong?

Maybe it's not my job to google for you? One possibility. 

[Notional]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

Maybe it's not my job to google for you? One possibility. 

It is when you make a claim that has been disproved, while you just spam articles that doesn't back up your point?

[Energycore]

5 minutes ago, App4that said:

Cloud gaming, so you can game on any PC or Mac even using a iGPU. Everything is handled server side. 

$25 for 20 hours.

Yeah sounds like just the thing for the people who sold their 1080s

[leadeater]

14 minutes ago, App4that said:

There is no Freesync chip, module, or thingamabob. My point

If that were true every existing monitor would have freesync support, meaning it's GPU and software only. But you need hardware support in the monitor for freesync. It may only be a minor difference just like monitors that have different HDMI standard support but those also have different hardware which defines the HDMI standard that is supported.

[Prysin]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

Maybe it's not my job to google for you? One possibility. 

No. Googling for people can get you banned from this forum. We've seen that happen before 

[App4that]

Just now, Notional said:

It is when you make a claim that has been disproved, while you just spam articles that doesn't back up your point?

No, you used Linus as a citation. We had a giggle and moved on. Speaking of moving on. 

[Prysin]

Just now, leadeater said:

If that were true every existing monitor would have freesync support, meaning it's GPU and software only. But you need hardware support in the monitor for freesync. It may only be a minor difference just like monitors that have different HDMI standard support but those also have different hardware which defines the HDMI standard that is supported.

Its panel and scaler based. However even some older monitors can be made to run freesync through a firmware swap. 

[App4that]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

If that were true every existing monitor would have freesync support, meaning it's GPU and software only. But you need hardware support in the monitor for freesync. It may only be a minor difference just like monitors that have different HDMI standard support but those also have different hardware which defines the HDMI standard that is supported.

That would be like giving Ford the credit for using roads? Bad analogy but I hope it works. 

 

 

[Notional]

Just now, App4that said:

No, you used Linus as a citation. We had a giggle and moved on. Speaking of moving on. 

It's pathetic to turn to a simple ad hominem. Attack his testing methodology, if you think it's wrong. But then you have to come up with something better. So far YOU made a point, that YOU have yet to back up. That is YOUR responsibility, not mine.

[leadeater]

1 minute ago, App4that said:

That would be like giving Ford the credit for using roads? Bad analogy but I hope it works. 

Well that makes no sense at all to me? What do you mean?

 

I was simply just stating that there is some hardware level requirement in the monitor to support freesync.

[leadeater]

Plus discussing Freesync vs G-Sync in a CES Nvidia Keynote news thread is rather off topic. Continue else where if you so wish, just not here.