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Zen Engineering sample benchmarked by french tech magazine CanardPC

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CanardPC is a tech Magazine released bi-monthly. The link only leaks to a tease of the magazine and doesnt give numbers however a photo of the magazine's benchmarks was leaked and you can find it at the bottom.

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Enfin, nous nous intéresserons au principal risque pour Intel en 2017 : le grand retour d’AMD. Nous avons pu tester pour l’occasion sur une plateforme AM4 et un processeur A12 Bristol Ridge mais aussi – surtout – un prototype de CPU Ryzen à 8 cœurs basé sur l’architecture Zen. Après un topo global sur cette nouvelle génération de processeur et leur architecture (avec probablement quelques détails encore non dévoilés officiellement), nous procéderons à une batterie de tests, tant sur des applications de rendus massivement multithreadées que sur quelques jeux vidéo. Nous terminerons par un point sur la consommation électrique des premiers échantillons. À noter que les résultats obtenus sur ce prototype ne peuvent être considérés que comme un aperçu des capacités de l’architecture Zen : les fréquences finales évolueront encore d’ici au lancement commercial.

 

For those who dont speak the "language of Molière".

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We're going to take a look at the principal risk for Intel in 2017: The return of AMD. We managed to test an A12 Bristol Ridge processor but particularly, a Ryzen prototype with 8 cores based on the Zen architecture. After a global brief on this generation of processors and it's architecture (with currently unreleased details), we're benchmarking it, on mass rendering applications as well as video games. We'll conclude with details on the consumption of the first samples. Please take note that the frequencies or Zen will continue to evolve by commercial release.

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This engineering sample had a base clock of 3.15 ghz and a boost clock of 3.3 ghz which means that while RyZen lost to the 6900k and other processors, it was doing it with a big boost clock gap

 

My thoughts: Burn! Baby Burn! That is, the price of Intel CPUs because it's good enough at a lower clock to compete relatively well with the 6900k

 

This is highly speculative and unverified but a user on reddit came up with this today. (2016-12-29)

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

As of now without edits this means nothing. I AM WAITING!

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Looks very good. Only thing to notice is that the ZEN sample runs at a lower clockrate than what Lisa Su stated is standard (3.4ghz). So add at least 10% performance + any boost/oc on top of that. Then it looks really great for an 8 core.

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3 minutes ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Uh? How is it so behind in Videogame performance xD?

Because it's an 8 core CPU, and games benefit a lot more from fewer cores with higher clock rate. This sample also runs at a lower clock rate than standard. 

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4 minutes ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Uh? How is it so behind in Videogame performance xD?

lower base clock than every other processors above it. As explained in the text on the side, Video games rarely support more then 4 core and the higher clock speed is what is important.

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Well okay... werent games from today taking advantage of true multi-core based solutions now with DX12 and Vulkan than before? Still, does this mean that the AMD sample in review, is literally as good in IPC as Intel's offerings (on the brute calculus graph) .-.?

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1 minute ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Well okay... werent games from today taking advantage of true multi-core based solutions now with DX12 and Vulkan than before? Still, does this mean that the AMD sample in review, is literally as good in IPC as Intel's offerings (on the brute calculus graph) .-.?

It probably averages a bit lower then the 6900k at same core clock but marginally.

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5 minutes ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

Well okay... werent games from today taking advantage of true multi-core based solutions now with DX12 and Vulkan than before? Still, does this mean that the AMD sample in review, is literally as good in IPC as Intel's offerings (on the brute calculus graph) .-.?

no not really. Outside of Ashes of the Singularity and DOOM 2016. The other games are merely DX11 with the GPU benefis of DX12.....

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3 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

I have to say, that's sort of unacceptable now. If AMD wants to compete then they best have just as good performance per core as Intel processors or else they're going to be going down the drain real soon.

 

They are with Broadwell. But it seems ZEN is more than capable. Being within 10% per core is just fine. Clockrate, APU's IGPU, internal features, price, etc. is more than enough to be competitive of.

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looks very good, competes with i5 SKYLAKE even while crippled in clockspeed. Although it doesn't quite reach 6900k levels (but still close)
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23 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

I have to say, that's sort of unacceptable now. If AMD wants to compete then they best have just as good performance per core as Intel processors or else they're going to be going down the drain real soon.

Note how base was 3.15GHz and boost was 3.3GHz...that's 400Mhz slower than the boost of the 6900K's (and 900MHz slower than the boost of a 6700K).

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Just now, theninja35 said:

I know...but even at a higher clock rate I don't think the performance per core will be high enough.

The Ryzen 8 core is only 13% slower (168.7 / 193.4 =0.8722=87%) than the 6900K while the 6900K has a 12% increase of boost clocks...that means that at the same clocks, the Ryzen 8 core should be more or less within margin of error so...I think it's single core performance is high enough :P 

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Looks more and more like I'm just gonna go X299 with my next build.

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2 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

Well I guess the numbers don't lie (unless they're wrong, I'm not going to check). It just doesn't look like it will offer enough performance in games where they use 4 or fewer cores.

Well...at the same clocks (unless I've done something wrong), it should perform more or less as good as a 6900K so...it probably should be fine :P 

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5 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

Well I guess the numbers don't lie (unless they're wrong, I'm not going to check). It just doesn't look like it will offer enough performance in games where they use 4 or fewer cores.

True, but if we get a quad core variant that is clocked higher, and priced lower, it will mean a lot. Imagine a quad core Zen, at the same price of your traditional Intel i3. It's plenty enough for gaming, and a real quad core. Shouldn't be too hard to have a 4ghz base quad core SKU. 

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The thing is though.. This is an 8 core CPU. 

 

Everyone is complaining how this is slower than a 6700k which is a 4 core CPU. (Not counting HT here) so..

 

Now, I am assuming AMD will be offering cut down versions of this chip. If the 4 core version has a higher base clock and boost clock.. wouldnt it perform the same or above the 6700k?

 

That's the difference here people. I like AMD is doing what Intel is doing and providing an enthusiast chips and more cut down mainstream versions of that as well. 

 

So just remember as everyone gets their panties in a bunch that this doesn't beat a 4 core CPU, let me remind you that the 6900k doesn't fair better in games and is slightly worse in certain games. 

 

Want apples to apples? wait for the 4 core version.

Do you even fanboy bro?

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51 minutes ago, rattacko123 said:

looks very good, competes with i5 SKYLAKE even while crippled in clockspeed. Although it doesn't quite reach 6900k levels (but still close)
This is looking good for AMD

Note that is is running at about 400mhz less than the 6900k...

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