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Update: This probably have been misunderstood by some

 

http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2672-geforce-experience-data-transfer-analysis

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It's been brought to our attention that nVIDIA now has telemetry included with its drivers (most likely) if you installed GeForce Experience with the drivers. I'm getting conflicting reports whether it's specific to GeForce Experience or not.

 

In case you need a reminder on telemetry:

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First, let's go over what these are. Telemetry is essentially considered spying by many as it is a way to send data back and forth. It's nowhere near that simple, but we'd like to know what it's doing in our video drivers when it's never been needed before. nVIDIA Wireless Controller requires you have, you guessed it, a nVIDIA Wireless Controller. ShadowPlay is a way to capture and record gameplay.

 

The article does however show how you can remove it: http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/story/nvidia_adds_telemetry_to_latest_drivers_heres_how_to_disable_it.html

 

Okay, this sounds a bit concerning, some Reddit users have pointed out that this could be used to collect user data: 7c460e87f8.png

 

source again in case you missed it: http://www.majorgeeks.com/news/story/nvidia_adds_telemetry_to_latest_drivers_heres_how_to_disable_it.html

 

UPDATE: GamerNexus have taken a look at that collected data

http://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/2672-geforce-experience-data-transfer-analysis

 

It seems that this may have been misunderstood and/or overly sensationalised as the data collected doesn't seem that personal.

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3 minutes ago, TOMPPIX said:

and why the hell is this needed????

So they can spy on you and find out how badly your system is playing games.

 

Then they can serve ADs about the new GTX 1080

 

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What the hell?
This is totaly unnecessary and kick in the balls of their customers.

 

Also remember the outrage when people were discussing that you will need to register with mail for the GForceExperience? Other people were defending it that it is just a mail. Now they are stepping up their game... I dont like this. If it is just GForceExperience thing I may be able to swallow it as I dont use ShadowPlay much but this just makes me want to return my GSync monitor I just got recently and sell my 1060 and go for Vega when it comes out.

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What the hell?
This is totaly unnecessary and kick in the balls of their customers.

 

Also remember the outrage when people were discussing that you will need to register with mail for the GForceExperience? Other people were defending it that it is just a mail. Now they are stepping up their game... I dont like this. If it is just GForceExperience thing I may be able to swallow it as I dont use ShadowPlay much but this just makes me want to return my GSync monitor I just got recently and sell my 1060 and go to Vega when it comes out.

Well now I know 100% what company will provide my next GPU, AMD.

 

Even if RX 490 doesn't become a thing, I can always buy a RX 480 or Vega.

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1 minute ago, WereCat said:

What the hell?
This is totaly unnecessary and kick in the balls of their customers.

 

Also remember the outrage when people were discussing that you will need to register with mail for the GForceExperience? Other people were defending it that it is just a mail. Now they are stepping up their game... I dont like this. If it is just GForceExperience thing I may be able to swallow it as I dont use ShadowPlay much but this just makes me want to return my GSync monitor I just got recently and sell my 1060 and go to Vega when it comes out.

yea guess i'll be waiting with upgrading my gpu, also gonna read AMD's privacy policy though because they might just as well do it.

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BTW-I could go back to the launch drivers and be OK with them, because I have very few games from post 2014. 

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13 minutes ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

*looks to right through case window at RX 480*

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I wish I could say the same, but I've been put off updating my GPU for a while.

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8 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Well now I know 100% what company will provide my next GPU, AMD.

 

Even if RX 490 doesn't become a thing, I can always buy a RX 480 or Vega.

I am really pissed by this. I just got GSync monitor which was quite expensive and I wanted to return it even before these news because of how much trouble there is with it if you run multiple monitor setup but I decided against it as it does look quite nice but is nowehere worth €200 extra. Now I am really considering returning it as I have time untill friday. Because this just locks me to NVIDIA and will make me to upgrade to another NVIDIA card.

7 minutes ago, tlink said:

yea guess i'll be waiting with upgrading my gpu, also gonna read AMD's privacy policy though because they might just as well do it.

Well if both AMD and NVIDIA do it it will really suck as you will have no real choice to avoid it unless you can just go with Intel and you dont care about games or GPU accelerated tasks at all.

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7 minutes ago, Jorgen297 said:

Just run the old GeForce Expierience (pre 3.0), and block it from updating. You can still update drivers.

But no-one's sure yet if the spying is built into GeForce Experience or the drivers themselves...

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17 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Then they can serve ADs about the new GTX 1080

then you get the GTX 1080 but you get ads about the titan XP instead

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Or just remove GFE and be done with it?

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Or just remove GFE and be done with it?

From the linked article 

 

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I'm getting conflicting reports whether it's specific to GeForce Experience or not.

 

16 minutes ago, Pohernori said:

Why does nvidia need to now your address? Are they gonna send us free 1080s? 

If only...

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1 minute ago, Castdeath97 said:

From the linked article 

The wording got me pretty confused, figured it was only in GFE. Well shit then. 

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Just gonna add that to the list of reasons why I think this gen of Nvidia cards sucks

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I just checked it on my notebook, reinstalled the drivers yesterday without geforce experience aaand...

It's there.

 

The damn telemetry sh*t is there, sadly i can't just get rid of the 610M that's in there so for now i'll just have to check it from time to time to make sure it's off.

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I'm just gonna guess this is going to be forgotten about within a few days and Geforce sales will not even hitch a little.

It's Nvidia being Nvidia, nothing surprising to see here.

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Welcome to 2016, where everyone and everything is spying on you.

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