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AMD Zen ES leaked benchmarks: performance similar to a Core i5 4670K?!?!

Djole123
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Cool an ashes bench, now can I see something else that I care about :P

 

Wait it's an 8 core, now I care even less since ashes can use 8 cores meaning each of it's cores are not very strong overall

 

I'll wait for launch benches thank you

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/ Tier Breakdown (My understanding)--1 Godly, 2 Great, 3 Good, 4 Average, 5 Meh, 6 Bad, 7 Awful

 

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I kinda want to see what it would do at 5GHz though (new 9590?), any word on the TDP.

 

and really the only way to not have a bias, and actually find out how good the IPC really is would be to run cpu benchmarks like Cinebench.

 

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If only a CPU orientated test was used...

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5 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

Aren't these more of a rumor bench than an actual bench, though?

True, though that just means add some salt to the thread

20 minutes ago, LeStringMan said:

Well remember this Zen sample is only clocked at 2.8 Ghz, and its only 10% off of a 4790 also take a look at the heavy batch results with a 390x. 

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/DX12-GPU-and-CPU-Performance-Tested-Ashes-Singularity-Benchmark/Results-Heavy

This is true, however it's still 16 threads vs 4 or 8 cores vs 4 if you prefer so the ipc isn't spectacular regardless at least for this engineering sample any way (plus it's more a gpu oriented test so...)

 

We'll see with the real chips soon enough

 

35 minutes ago, FakezZ said:

Okay. So nvidia never used games that benefit their products to advertise them?

Comparing the wrong company since this is a CPU thread, though intel is far from saintly, but no matter we'll find out it's performance in due time

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/ Tier Breakdown (My understanding)--1 Godly, 2 Great, 3 Good, 4 Average, 5 Meh, 6 Bad, 7 Awful

 

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14 minutes ago, Valermos said:

I was hoping for a Broadwell/Haswell Killer. But it's a start.

HAHAHA. Where would AMD get that? No really have you seen there latest CPUs? If AMD goes budget orientated they can sweep intel off their feet as most people are buying i5s and i3s rather then 8 core 6900Ks at $1000

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Just now, AresKrieger said:

Comparing the wrong company since this is a CPU thread, though intel is far from saintly, but no matter we'll find out it's performance in due time

Yeah I know, but this was the first one that came to my mind :P Still, I am sure Intel has used situations that their hardware performs best to advertise it ;)

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What does right arround the corner mean ? When will ZEN release ?

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On 8/10/2016 at 4:18 PM, marldorthegreat said:

Yeah, its a bit slower but its not miles away. 

Know what settings, build and drivers tom's used, and/or how old those numbers are?  Just wondering how relevant this comparison is or if a newer set of benches should be used to draw the performance battle lines in the sand.

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So a chip that has yet to be released is as fast as a mid tier chip from 3 years ago? Wow that's so impressive!

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16 minutes ago, valdyrgramr said:

The point was a company using one thing to thrive off a product, it doesn't matter if it is hw or sw.  It's still the same tactic.

Yes, but this is about hardware, nvidia was about software. Tell me, why aren't you going on about intel? And like I said, what the did was dirty, speeding it up. But what they advertised was true. You did get those graphical features in the game.

No one is advertising a game here, this is meant to give you an idea of performance.

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4 minutes ago, nskceaj said:

What does right arround the corner mean ? When will ZEN release ?

I believe the ceo said it will be out in limited quantities late 2016/early 2017 and be fully out in full force mid 2017 could be wrong

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3 minutes ago, leelaa14 said:

Yes, but this is about hardware, nvidia was about software. Tell me, why aren't you going on about intel? And like I said, what the did was dirty, speeding it up. But what they advertised was true. You did get those graphical features in the game.

No one is advertising a game here, this is meant to give you an idea of performance.

Actually this brings up a valid question

 

Does any one play ashes of the singularity? As I've never any one talk about it from a non bench perspective

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20 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

HAHAHA. Where would AMD get that? No really have you seen there latest CPUs? If AMD goes budget orientated they can sweep intel off their feet as most people are buying i5s and i3s rather then 8 core 6900Ks at $1000

I doubt it they CEO said they're tired of being known as the cheaper solution. So expect higher prices. 

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1 hour ago, leelaa14 said:

Ashes of the singularity is AMD's marketing tool to con people into thinking there products are better than they are.

Nvidia is much better with their "because fuck you that's why" tax called the founders edition.

59 minutes ago, themaniac said:

fuck, now I don't have much hope in zen for being able to compete with intel in single core performance

 

EDIT: ok forums go home your drunk

it was only running at a turbo speed of 3.2, significantly lower then a 5960x(3.5) based on clock alone.

39 minutes ago, SLAYR said:

I kinda want to see what it would do at 5GHz though (new 9590?), any word on the TDP.

 

and really the only way to not have a bias, and actually find out how good the IPC really is would be to run cpu benchmarks like Cinebench.

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8 minutes ago, Demonking said:

I doubt it they CEO said they're tired of being known as the cheaper solution. So expect higher prices. 

Well in the high end I can see that but 4670K perf for 6800K prices no way

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6 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

Nvidia is much better with their "because fuck you that's why" tax called the founders edition.

it was only running at a turbo speed of 3.2, significantly lower then a 5960x(3.5) based on clock alone.

.3 is not a large difference

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Just now, themaniac said:

.3 is not a large difference

~10% , as much as the difference in performance between the two processors.

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1 hour ago, themaniac said:

that argument only works with gpu's because amd and intel cpu's both use the same architecture(or whatever x86-64 is called) aka x86-64 so you can't really optimize the cpu side for just amd cpu's

You can optimize programming for a specific processor design even if the instruction set is the same. I'm not saying that it's been done for this game though. Most applications favor Intel's designs simply because more users would benefit from those optimizations (Intel to AMD CPU user ratio is around 4:1).

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Trying to hide my enthusiasm.... 

 

Trying not to over-hype this product, only to be let down later. 

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This is probably more bullshit constructed by the anti-AMD hatebrigade to drum up higher expectations for Zen than is valid, to sabotage its sales when it comes out with Ivy Bridge performance. It would be the 957th time or so.

 

I'll keep my expectations of Ivy Bridge performance.

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Oh, just that? I sure hope they have a better SKU, otherwise Intel will still be sitting on their butt not caring enough to release better products.

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25 minutes ago, Demonking said:

I doubt it they CEO said they're tired of being known as the cheaper solution. So expect higher prices. 

That was in relation to GPUs, not CPUs.

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25 minutes ago, RagnarokDel said:

Depending on which chip it was, it's 65w or 95w.

If that is a 65w chip it is pretty impressive to have an eight core chip, at those frequencies running at such a low tdp, the only intel chips with 8+ cores and a tdp lower all have 1.7-1.8GHz clockspeeds.

 

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3 minutes ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

I'll keep my expectations of Ivy Bridge performance.

IPC? Or overall per core? If they do that, it is pretty much game over. Based on other analysis, I think they should do pretty well outside of FP, but they will still not be at Intel levels there, and will likely have to rely on being more core generous to keep up.

28 minutes ago, Demonking said:

I doubt it they CEO said they're tired of being known as the cheaper solution. So expect higher prices. 

1 minute ago, That Norwegian Guy said:

That was in relation to GPUs, not CPUs.

It would have to apply to CPUs anyway. AMD need to make money to keep going. The low end is not going to do enough in itself. My prediction, which kinda sidesteps predicting performance, is simply they will be a bit cheaper than the equivalent performance Intel. Of course, how you compare that performance is always going to be harder to define, especially if the architectures have very different strengths and weaknesses. AMD will need to add something extra to sweeten the deal.

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