Here’s why Chrome is slow (it’s NOT your RAM)

[AdamFromLTT]

Google Chrome isn't as good as it used to be. While it was a great replacement for Internet Explorer and Firefox and Safari, but as it's become the dominant browser, it seems like it ain't quite how it used to be. And now that browsers like Microsoft Edge, Brave, Opera GX and Vivaldi have all switched to run on Chromium, we decided to get to the bottom of those performance woes.

[AndreiArgeanu]

Would have actually been nice to see some Firefox performance, and Safari(or any webkit based browser), given they're the primary competitors to Chromium based browsers that are actually different under the hood.

 

I personally gave up on Chrome years ago, and have been using Firefox ever since without any issues. Would use it on my iPhone as well if apple wasn't forcing WebKit on everything. And I'm glad I chose it seeing as Mozilla continues to support manifest v2 and their v3 implementation is different to Google's allowing for extensions like content blockers to remain fully featured while also allowing for cross platform extensions.

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https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/17/23559234/firefox-manifest-v3-content-ad-blocker

 

[JEskandari]

well manifest 3 is enough for me not to change to a chrome based browser

[FlyingPotato_is_taken]

Switch to firefox is what they say:

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-search-update/

 

Mozilla dropped this earlier today.

[JEskandari]

27 minutes ago, FlyingPotato_is_taken said:

Switch to firefox is what they say:

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-search-update/

 

Mozilla dropped this earlier today.

that's why people use Firefox derivative like LibreWolf or Floorp.

but honestly that compared to Chrome is child play

[AndreiArgeanu]

25 minutes ago, JEskandari said:

that's why people use Firefox derivative like LibreWolf or Floorp.

but honestly that compared to Chrome is child play

That and you can just permanently opt out of stuff like this with a a few switches. They even mention it in the article and redirect you to an article telling you how to do it.

[FlyingPotato_is_taken]

1 hour ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

That and you can just permanently opt out of stuff like this with a a few switches.

Opt out and it can't be done during the initial setup.

[OhBoy]

13 hours ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

That and you can just permanently opt out of stuff like this with a a few switches. They even mention it in the article and redirect you to an article telling you how to do it.

I did not know that it was a thing. Just disabled it. It is really sad seeing how Firefox management are actively trying to ruin Firefox under the guise of keeping the lights on. All while they get paid ludicrous amount of pay for ruining Firefox. Did they change that CEO who tried to defend Google search monopoly? or is she still running the organization down?

[silentdragon95]

14 hours ago, FlyingPotato_is_taken said:

Switch to firefox is what they say:

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-search-update/

 

Mozilla dropped this earlier today.

I mean yeah that's not amazing, but at least they're being transparent about what they're doing, which Google or Microsoft really aren't.

[daithic]

On 5/14/2024 at 5:21 PM, FlyingPotato_is_taken said:

Opt out and it can't be done during the initial setup.

True but it doesn't reset itself on updates like some other companies do. Just checked and mine's still disabled.

[ObsoleteTech]

Just for fun i did the motionmark benchmark on much older hardware than in the video, and with odd parameters.

Conditions: intel I5 4570 CPU, 16GB ram, RTX 2070 Super GPU, Windows 11 Pro, Windows Defender.

From left - Vanilla Edge -> Plain Firefox on WSL2 (Subsystem for Linux) -> Vanilla Google Chrome -> Vanilla Edge in Windows Sandbox (30FPS)

 

I don't know what a good score is and isn't, but i find benchmarks interesting, especially compared head to head in this way.

 

[daithic]

Why would you run FF under WSL and not native

[ObsoleteTech]

5 hours ago, daithic said:

Why would you run FF under WSL and not native

Experimenting with WSL and FF was like a good start. I normally dont like FF.

[YellowJersey]

On 5/17/2024 at 7:36 AM, daithic said:

True but it doesn't reset itself on updates like some other companies do. Just checked and mine's still disabled.

Same.

Been using Firefox since 2004(ish). Tried chrome, but never saw what all the fuss was about. I do remember a period when firefox was a bit flaky sometime around 2010(ish), iirc, but it's been fine for a long time. I do have Brave installed in the rare event that a page needs chromium, but that's mostly limited to whenever I have the misfortune of having to use Teams, which, JFC microsoft, how are you so bad at this?!

 I also don't trust anything by google. I couldn't believe people were shocked when it came out that incognito mode was still tracking people. It's google. What did you expect?

[williamcll]

After all, Firefox is still being dragged down by Google both financially and systematically.

[powertoys]

I'm pretty sure that FF would lose in the performance department. Badly. It uses MORE RAM than Chrome.

 

Firefox also features a font rendering that's MUCH worse on the eyes than Chrome's, no support for multiple user profiles without some hacky workarounds...

[volcano_dragon]

I switched to Firefox from Brave because Brave, edge both are chromium based browser's and they both have ig 2gb ram limit per tab, but in Firefox there is no limit (and I need that extra Ram other wise my site keep crashing "Error: Out of memory"), But later I found that my extension in Firefox have access to all the sites, like in chrome I can use extension when I click on it, so it much safer I don't any extension to read all the content on my all sites. So I switched back to Brave