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T-Mobile Will Give Away Your SIM Card - Reason Behind Recent YouTube Account Compromises

LAwLz
By LAwLz
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Not much to say here except AT&T T-Mobile are run by idiots.

This is most likely how Linus got his account compromised. Basically, someone called AT&T T-Mobile, pretending to work for T-Mobile, and asked to get a replica of Ethan's SIM card. Once they got that, they can bypass things like 2-step verification that relies on SMS.

 

 

 

Edit: Sorry AT&T. Got you mixed up with T-Mobile. It was T-Mobile that screwed up.

This might be happening with other carriers though.

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He has Tmobile unless Tmobile is run by AT&T but I don't think so. This helps to put all the people yelling at linus to use 2 factor when he did. Most hackers now days are little nice voices behind a phone.

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Social engineering at its finest, you can have all the security in the world and have it all come crumbling down by one person who isn't smart enough to realize something is fishy.

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Pff, just saw the video (and the news about it from Boogie I think too). It's kind of weird.. Would using authentication apps (like the one from Google, Steam and more) be better to use than SMS verification? Because that wouldn't be vulnerable to this... Except that is only the 2 step verification part, I think you can change passwords through the sms too? I think you can on Google accounts? Not sure..

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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

He has Tmobile unless Tmobile is run by AT&T but I don't think so. This helps to put all the people yelling at linus to use 2 factor when he did. Most hackers now days are little nice voices behind a phone.

The video is talking about a fake T-Mobile employee calling T-Mobile to give them sim card away.  Not sure where AT&T came into play.

 

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21 minutes ago, Minibois said:

Pff, just saw the video (and the news about it from Boogie I think too). It's kind of weird.. Would using authentication apps (like the one from Google, Steam and more) be better to use than SMS verification? Because that wouldn't be vulnerable to this... Except that is only the 2 step verification part, I think you can change passwords through the sms too? I think you can on Google accounts? Not sure..

Even Steam Guard has been fucked lol.

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all of this shit must be by the same guy/group that tried to hack linus, and got boogie and others, i hope h3h3 sues so at least something gets done about this.

 

i was actually amazed that some asshat was able to lie its way through into getting that data, not even trying to breach a system, just lies on a phone call

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And some people think the government isn't spying on us when its that easy xD

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29 minutes ago, biggiebody said:

The video is talking about a fake T-Mobile employee calling T-Mobile to give them sim card away.  Not sure where AT&T came into play.

 

So going by this, we can probably assume the third party that Linus was extremely mad at was T-Mobile?

No I don't think Tmobile is in Canada. I think he has Bell. I would assume the calling in would work on all companies though

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

No I don't think Tmobile is in Canada. I think he has Bell. I would assume the calling in would work on all companies though

Thought you were saying Linus had T-Mobile, than realized you were probably talking about the guy in the video.

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16 minutes ago, biggiebody said:

Thought you were saying Linus had T-Mobile, than realized you were probably talking about the guy in the video.

Yeah

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17 minutes ago, biggiebody said:

Thought you were saying Linus had T-Mobile, than realized you were probably talking about the guy in the video.

Boogie2988 had verizon

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Social engineering at its finest.

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2 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Not much to say here except AT&T are run by idiots.

This is most likely how Linus got his account compromised. Basically, someone called AT&T, pretending to work for T-Mobile, and asked to get a replica of Ethan's SIM card. Once they got that, they can bypass things like 2-step verification that relies on SMS.

 

 

I don't understand how this is even possible unless like you said these cell phone providers are run by idiots.  I mean shouldn't there be requirements to provide identification info such as a SSN or account password to prove that the account owner is agreeing to sending a new SIM card?  Or for the person calling to be required to prove that they in fact work for the company they say they do?

 

For a company to just give out a copy of a SIM card with proof that it's a legitimate request amounts to criminal stupidity if you ask me.  I hope that guy in the video does sue and wins.  Good thing I have Verizon.. I hope they don't allow this kind of bs security breach.  

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I know for a fact AT&T moved away from a very famous outsourcing Company operating here in Mexico (due to fraud too but other kind of fraud: guys here were unlocking stolen iphones and such) and naturally switching to another major outsourcing partner after over 20 years (no joke that's how long they had a lot of support here) will cause a lot of rookie mistakes...like a lot.

 

6 minutes ago, Bleedingyamato said:

I don't understand how this is even possible unless like you said these cell phone providers are run by idiots.  

They actually are: read above.

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On 8 July 2016 at 7:10 PM, Deletist_Jerk said:

They do have IT people that set policies....right?

The IT people who set policies can't comprehend this level of stupid.

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2 hours ago, ModuleLFS said:

Even Steam Guard has been fucked lol.

Should I be worried about my Steam account?  ?

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As someone who's been working for T-Mobile/T-Com for almost a year, I know for a fact that it shouldn't be that easy to get your SIM. This was either a rookie mistake, or the security at T-Mobile in US is really bad. I've no idea what to say. 

The ability to google properly is a skill of its own. 

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16 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I know for a fact AT&T moved away from a very famous outsourcing Company operating here in Mexico (due to fraud too but other kind of fraud: guys here were unlocking stolen iphones and such) and naturally switching to another major outsourcing partner after over 20 years (no joke that's how long they had a lot of support here) will cause a lot of rookie mistakes...like a lot.

 

They actually are: read above.

Wow that's messed up...

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21 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I know for a fact AT&T moved away from a very famous outsourcing Company operating here in Mexico (due to fraud too but other kind of fraud: guys here were unlocking stolen iphones and such) and naturally switching to another major outsourcing partner after over 20 years (no joke that's how long they had a lot of support here) will cause a lot of rookie mistakes...like a lot.

 

They actually are: read above.

The thing is that people that work at call centers don't tend to stick too long at that job. It's one of the most stressful jobs for a reason. People that do know procesures and all are the ones that have been working it fot some time and they are always looking for a diffetent jobs, which causes an infinite number of new agents that make rookie mistskes all the time. 

The ability to google properly is a skill of its own. 

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3 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

The thing is that people that work at call centers don't tend to stick too long at that job. It's one of the most stressful jobs for a reason. People that do know procesures and all are the ones that have been working it fot some time and they are always looking for a diffetent jobs, which causes an infinite number of new agents that make rookie mistskes all the time. 

I know but the account managers had been there for many years and so do many middle managers and supervisors. Some of them personal Friends of mine in fact and I know they worked there long enough to detect who's an idiot newbie and who's trying to cheat the system, etc.

Even with a high rate of personnel changes they always keep key staff that knows their stuff, if you switch providers you're basically going with all new staff on all levels.

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1 hour ago, Deletist_Jerk said:

They do have IT people that set policies....right?

You can set all the rules and regulations you want but all it takes is to fool a single employee out of the hundreds or thousands working for a company.

It isn't like these people try once and give up, they will try again and again and again, each time getting more knowledge about what internal lingo is used to make them sound like a legit employee until someone at the company gives up the info.

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