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You want a longer lasting phone battery? Too bad.

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Even having the phone be really thin as a necesity is mostly a lie:

 

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The phone is not thin at all, yet it feels quite thin. Not only that but the fact that it has a curved back helps it pack a relatively large battery and it's actually easier to hold on your hand despite being a fairly sizeable phone (5.5 inch display)

 

Yet I can't kill it with a day of intensive use, literally hours of screen time and constant data and location streaming. Yet companies like Apple are not into giving you a product that makes sense for you but instead want one that makes sense for them meaning you'd need to buy one every other year.

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Lol, fuck that shit,I ain't pay that shitload of moneh just to get a half assed battery!

Glad I bought the Huawei P8max and it can last longer than 2 days. It's also big and big is always fine.

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At the end of day I have roughly 70-80% battery left with my Lumia 950xl.

I am still happy I don't own an iPhone.

 

Apple IPhone now with more Hype and Less battery!  

Want more battery? Well screw you, just buy our unimaginably overpriced and fugly humped back battery case and slap it on. It will help you look cooler as well. xD

 

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Nokia's 3310 would last me about 2 1/2 weeks one a charge, I miss that...:(

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It is to the point I am just going to buy a LIPO battery and tape it to the back of my iPhone. 

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3 hours ago, shdowhunt60 said:

This is why I love my Moga Power Pro. Not only do I have a controller to circumvent shitty touchscreen controls while I'm gaming, it also doubles as a "make my phone's battery life not shit" device as well!

I used to own the very first Moga. It was a complete crap.

 

1) Compatibility was terrible between games.

2) Luggaging that controller in your pocket was annoying.

3) Pairing the controller took up to 5-10 minutes nullifying the OTG part.

4) The controller always disconnected despite me having new batteries.

5) Everything else.

6) Didn't solve the hardware limitations. Phones would heat up like crap. Bluetooth would drain your battery. The games were almost always crap and freemiums.

Wasn't worth the £60 I paid, including import taxes which GameStop were kind enough to not warn me about.

 

You can't really charge your phone while gaming because the MOGAs battery would be small anyways and would mean that if you accidentally charge your phone with all of the MOGAs power, you can't use your controller until you got home.

 

I saved myself time, money and effort by just buying a 3ds xl. Mobile gaming will never surpass Vitas and 3ds'. Maybe in market share, but that's just because practically everyone has a phone and the games are quick and easy to access. But mobile games are terrible.

 

Minus some games like KOTOR which are PC games anyways.

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5 hours ago, dizmo said:

I'm going to play devils advocate here, but he's right. I mean I'm all for better battery life. But I'm not willing to carry around a huge brick of a phone to get it, especially since I'd have to run a case which makes it even thicker.

The max I'd accept is around 10mm. Not 16mm+. Back in the day when the phones were small it was fine, but not with the behemoths they're coming out with now.

 

There are other ways to get better battery life. There's screen tech that will double what we currently have. Look what Samsung did with the S7 Edge. Slightly thicker, much larger battery.

 

I think universal, fast wireless charging is a better way to go. If I could charge the battery in a few minutes while I wait in line for coffee, for instance.

Just use 1080p instead of 1440p. That would help battery life tremendously. No 4K or 1440p. Otherwise they're will be shitty battery life.

 

And then make sure the battery is sizable so maybe 3000mAh.

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1 hour ago, mate_mate91 said:

I like thin phones too, but if this means that it will need to be charged twice a day, no thanks. Sweet spot for thickness is like 6-8 mm, for screen  size 4.8-5.2 inches, without big bezels like sony has :P

 

Actually we still can improve battery life by making more efficient RAM, CPU, GPU. We do not need that kind of power todays flagships have. If their screen was 1080p, there would not be the need for faster CPUs and GPUs. If S7 had 1080p screen It would have been  more efficient. Also bloatware that comes with samsungs, sonys, LGs and others phones eats up battery. HTC does really good job at it. It's sense UI is pretty much fast and efficient.

 

And battery.... We need new battery technology! That keeps more juice in it, lasts longer (i mean charge cycles) and charges faster.

 

I miss my nokia, i had to charge it once a week :(

My phone has a 720p display and that's more than enough. People who want 4k or even anything higher than 1080p are bloody stupid. In my respectful view.

 

I would ideally like a 1080p display, but that is only so that I can watch educational coding videos at a proper PC resolution.

 

Gaming, movies and TV shows don't even belong on phones.

 

You want that stuff, buy a tablet.

 

Funny thing is most consumers never even demanded these gimmicks like 4k displays. Advertisers and companies literally told you "you want this" and sheeple replied "yeah".

 

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i guess they forgot that the s7 edge has a 3600 mah battery, which mind you is bigger than the nexus 6p's battery. and yet the s7 edge manages to be quite light and thin. i've already looked at user input over at XDA regarding the s7 edge's battery and they're getting some pretty great numbers, in some cases better than the nexus 6p. i can only guess it's the display

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Well there's that fugly octagonal phone that tried with its 10K mAh battery, but it will fail because of looking like a toy for gaming babbies and not because of its battery. But the "analysts" (aka. liars and shitmongers) will take it as another argument against battery life.

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7 hours ago, dizmo said:

I'm going to play devils advocate here, but he's right. I mean I'm all for better battery life. But I'm not willing to carry around a huge brick of a phone to get it, especially since I'd have to run a case which makes it even thicker.

The max I'd accept is around 10mm. Not 16mm+. Back in the day when the phones were small it was fine, but not with the behemoths they're coming out with now.

 

There are other ways to get better battery life. There's screen tech that will double what we currently have. Look what Samsung did with the S7 Edge. Slightly thicker, much larger battery.

 

I think universal, fast wireless charging is a better way to go. If I could charge the battery in a few minutes while I wait in line for coffee, for instance.

Damn, you stole my S7 argument. 

Samsung made the phone just a wee bit thicker, and packed a great battery that can get you through a whole day, even with heavier usage. Apple, leaders of making things thinner, made the 6s a hair thicker than the 6, and not a lot of people noticed!

 

However, I've never seen anyone anywhere complain about a phone getting thicker, hell I've never even heard anyone say that they want a thinner phone

7 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Exactly - where they are getting this nonsense I have no idea.  I'm with the rest of you that I'd like more battery life even if it is a little thicker

That'd be something interesting to read/watch. "Who tells phone makers to make their phones thinner. Idiot edition" Is it the reviewers? The engies? The CEO? The same 10 idiot people who demand the same thing and do all the playtesting for all new phones?

7 hours ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

Same here , the only way to actually change the market is to "vote with out wallets" , but thats just the problem the majority of people who own lets say Apple devices don't actually buy them for the legitimate reason but simply cause "look at me , I have a fucking iphone"  and they will buy regardless :( 

Unfortunately, I think a lot of people buy Apple products just for the status symbol... I wish people would take a little more time just to read reviews and compare specs/usage scenarios before buying a phone...

7 hours ago, Lethal Seraph said:

It seems to me that companies are trying to get more money out of consumers, like additional accessory(advertised for user convenience) while I do appreciate wireless charging, I'm hating the trend. They're forcing us to charge a lot, if not carry around a bulky battery bank.

Why do you hate wireless charging? I don't think it's supposed to replace wired charging, just offer a more convenient alternative when you don't need your phone to charge as quickly. Like putting your phone down on your nightstand and picking it up in the morning. No need to deal with the cable, and your phone can take as long as it wants because you're asleep.

2 hours ago, Alir said:

 

 

I saved myself time, money and effort by just buying a 3ds xl. Mobile gaming will never surpass Vitas and 3ds'. Maybe in market share, but that's just because practically everyone has a phone and the games are quick and easy to access. But mobile games are terrible.

 

Minus some games like KOTOR which are PC games anyways.

I have 4 main gripes with mobile games (In worst to least worst order). These reasons are why I don't like the VAST MAJORITY of mobile games, and why I usually try to look for PC/console ports when browsing the google play store.

 

1. Pay to win/paywall mechanics. "Spend money and we'll deliver the finish line right to your doorstep!"

2. Shovelware. (Extra Credits did a really good episode on this, google "extra credits shovelware") A lot of the games are terrible or just clones of popular games. Remember when Flappy Bird (what a relic!) got pulled from shelves and everyone rushed to clone it?

3. Gameplay isn't deep enough. For a lot of games, the gameplay isn't deep or meaningful. It just repeats the same mechanics over and over again with little variation. Candy crush? Move some candy around until you get 3 in a row. Temple run, swipe in directions until you die, with some leaning and running variations here and there.

4. Sometimes the controls are bad. Ever try virtual buttons or joysticks on a touchscreen? That's exactly what I'm talking about. Your eyes are looking somewhere else, you have no tactile feedback to tell where the buttons are

2 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Just use 1080p instead of 1440p. That would help battery life tremendously. No 4K or 1440p. Otherwise they're will be shitty battery life.

 

And then make sure the battery is sizable so maybe 3000mAh.

1080p on a phone with regular usage scenarios work well. My S5 has a 1080p screen, very difficult to notice pixels, and battery is great as it's not being punished. 

But factor in phone-based VR and you have a problem. I've tried a Gear VR with an S7 in it, pixels were seeable.

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3 hours ago, Fgtfv567 said:

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Oh I love wireless charging. What I meant is the trend. They seem to compromise what a good phone needs to have while also selling/charging extra for something we desperately need. 

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Sounds like he has his head up his own anus. 

Especially considering the fact that Samsung is being praised (And rewarded with massive pre-orders for them) for the decision to make the S7 and S7 Edge thicker to accomodate better battery and additional storage. 

Also, first time I actually heard about Mobile Syrup. They are starting sound like nobodies to me. 

On an unrelated note, I seriously hope the rumors for Moto X 2016 are completely untrue when it is finally announced.

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The Market will speak for itself. Or it would if customers were informed at all. Instead we're going to see a market full of people who bought the new thing complaining about short battery life.

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I'm all for battery life but there will come a point where thinness and battery life can no longer be compromised and hopefully force companies to research more into better batteries. 

 

I realize innovation in the battery space is very slow and hard to do but hopefully we can see some new tech within the space.

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We need just one company to make a high end phone with large battery that's not stupidly large in size and they'll finally see there is a market for such phones.

 

So far all 4000+ mah phone that's not around or over 6 inch has mediatek chips and friggin 720P screen. ugh. 

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17 hours ago, manikyath said:

 

EDIT: @dizmo we dont need 2cm thick phones, we need to stick to the thickness we have now -- one we can actually still hold, and just keep filling it with battery.

If you look at what actually goes into a phone you'll see that it mostly is already battery. There isn't really much filling left to do, and yet people still complain...

17 hours ago, Prysin said:

aint buying no phone with less then 2750mAh battery.

Just dont care how efficient the phone is. Ive seen them make slim phones with 3000+mAh batteries, so i have to draw a line somewhere.

The efficiency of a device directly affects the battery more than anything else...so I'm not sure why you don't care how efficient it is.

17 hours ago, Arokhantos said:

They want thinner phones so you break it and buy a new one, they want crappy batteries so it pisses you off and you buy a new one, they want slower laggy phones after a year so you want faster one and buy a new one, they don't wanna update phones so you have to buy a new one.

I'm sure some one can add more reasons, anyway it pisses me off greatly to its more the attitude of smartphone companies these day's really it improves and degrades all the time for a reason.

Actually a lot of companies phones are still fine. People just expect more speed. Technology advances, and things get faster, thus the older devices seem slower. Most Nexus phones of old still work perfectly fine, especially since Android has reduced system requirements over the years.

17 hours ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

Same here , the only way to actually change the market is to "vote with out wallets" , but thats just the problem the majority of people who own lets say Apple devices don't actually buy them for the legitimate reason but simply cause "look at me , I have a fucking iphone"  and they will buy regardless :( 

Actually most people like Apple because of the ecosystem, the style, and general build quality. I've never actually heard someone say "look at me I have an iPhone".

17 hours ago, Prysin said:

i got a Sony Xperia Z2

3200mAh battery. Sure it cannot change it, but even with 8 hours a day on spotify + browsing each day, it still lasts 2-3 days between the charges. I bought it 3 years ago.

You must not use your phone that often, or on WiFi haha

17 hours ago, Jack_of_all_Trades said:

 

Motorola's been making phones with big batteries for quite a while now.

 

X Force , X play , Moto Maxx all phones with giant batteries compared to the competition. 

Most of those phones are stuck on Verizon though. The X Play isn't, but honestly even with it's larger battery it didn't get great battery life. My Note5 does considerably better than the X Play I had with a considerably smaller battery and a larger screen.

17 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Still it could be more.  How long until someone tries a 4000 mAh?  Everyone: promise to all buy that en masse when if comes out :P

There are numerous phones out there with batteries that exceed that amount.

17 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Has something else held them back from completely dominating the market?  Lack luster specs?  Locked to certain carriers?  (idk honestly much about the options out there)

Most of them were locked to Verizon. Others had lackluster spec compared to flagships, and honestly even with the larger batteries didn't get the best battery life.

16 hours ago, RedRound2 said:

Actually I'm expecting the S7 to set the ground for battery. Hopefully other manufacturers will follow footstep and *finger crossed* battery life improvement will be the next aspect in the tech race like how screen resolution and camera are

Meaning what exactly? The S6 had an anemic battery for its size, they're just playing catch-up.

16 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

See that's always the problem.  It's not as simple as everyone just buying the biggest battery phone.  Sure we care, but the article is somewhat right - it's not the only thing that matters.  The flagships need to offer thicker versions - they're already doing multiple screen sizes, why not multiple thicknesses?

Cost. Why offer 2 models of the same phone, doubling the cost of production? Molds, design, engineering, etc would all be doubled. Not every company makes the fat profit margins that Apple does when it comes to cell phones, most barely get by as is.

16 hours ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Ah yes, that's why I have my z3 compact, on stamina mode, I easily get 2 whole days out of one charge (3G always on...no 4G as three's 3G is faster than basically all 4G signals in Edinburgh...)...oh wait, never mind, it has a 2.6k mAh battery :D, even with no stamina mode, it still lasts a nice 1 and a half days

 

I was tempted to get that phone for a long while! The small screen gives excellent battery life. However I decided to try a phablet, and I'm never going back..

16 hours ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

The Oukitel K10000 wants to disagree :p. All we need, is some sort of genius chinese manufacturer, that actually wants to invest heavily on this -.-, but all of them seem busy trying to make "high quality" build phones with mediatek components.... Cmon, not even OnePlus tries to make theyr phones battery enormous.

OnePlus didn't have a huge battery, but their phone excelled in battery life.

16 hours ago, TetraSky said:

As long as the phone isn't more than 1cm thick, I'm perfectly fine with it being "thicker"...

 

When I was shopping for a phone, I first looked at the size of it, anything bigger than 4.5" was out, because at that point I might as well get a tablet.
And the second thing I looked at, was battery life. Because that's the single most important aspect in a phone to me, way beyond OS, features and what not. A smartphone that doesn't even last a day and might possibly be dead when I need it the most, is useless.

A large screened phone is hardly a tablet...if you'd ever tried carrying one around you'd know that.

I'd argue that you don't want/need a smartphone at all. If you don't care about the OS or features, why not just get a regular cell phone? Those things last forever.

15 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

I have an alternate theory: Planned obsolescence. We all know battery performance degrades over time. A bigger battery not only last longer but can resist this deterioration for a lot longer making the phone less useful but functional years down the line whereas a smaller batter makes an already annoying to use device virtually unusable later down the line with worst battery performance.

I disagree. Honestly, one shouldn't complain about having to replace the battery in a phone after a few years. Just pay the usually $90 to replace it. It's not like because it's sealed in it's impossible to replace.

15 hours ago, DocSwag said:

For me, I just want a phone that will last me through the day with enough battery life not to make me uncomfortable. So basically if after a long day I still have 30%, I'm a happy camper. But no, I will not trade 1/2 mm of thickness if it means I have 5% less battery at the end of the day. As long as my phone can last through any day I'm fine, and as long as that is the case I don't care how thin it is, but if no, then I definitely would trade a little thinness for a bigger battery.

One of my friends is the same way. I don't understand it though. If you finish the day with battery life left, hasn't your phone accomplished what it set out to do? Last the whole day? Why would you still want almost half the battery left? That still doesn't give you enough power to get through the next day.

15 hours ago, Carde said:

Normal work day my one plus last me easily landing me at 60% at the end of the day.

 

Heavy use day, I sure need that powerbank I got from them cause I can run my phone dry twice.

 

Frankly perhaps I should just get the old nokia's from the drawer and forget this smartphone stuff until they can make something proper. The only thing I would really miss would be my deezer for music streaming.

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15 hours ago, shdowhunt60 said:

Phone manufacturers love their planned obsolescence. I like how on top of mediocre battery life they incorporate more battery sucking features into newer devices like more powerful SOC's and higher resolution displays.

Funnily enough speed increases come from die shrinks, which give us better battery life. If the better performance comes with the shrink anyway, why not take it? Also, Samsung's 1440p screens were more efficient than the 1080p screens they replaced. So much so that it offset the drain by the higher resolution.

13 hours ago, mate_mate91 said:

I like thin phones too, but if this means that it will need to be charged twice a day, no thanks. Sweet spot for thickness is like 6-8 mm, for screen  size 4.8-5.2 inches, without big bezels like sony has :P

 

Actually we still can improve battery life by making more efficient RAM, CPU, GPU. We do not need that kind of power todays flagships have. If their screen was 1080p, there would not be the need for faster CPUs and GPUs. If S7 had 1080p screen It would have been  more efficient. Also bloatware that comes with samsungs, sonys, LGs and others phones eats up battery. HTC does really good job at it. It's sense UI is pretty much fast and efficient.

 

And battery.... We need new battery technology! That keeps more juice in it, lasts longer (i mean charge cycles) and charges faster.

 

I miss my nokia, i had to charge it once a week :(

I disagree about the screen size, but each to their own.

The CPU's become more efficient as they get smaller, which also allows for more speed. They do a balancing act. It's not like they just cram the most mHz out of the SoC that they can. Look at SD, they actually cut the cores in half with their new chip.

I don't think bloat really has anything to do with it. A Nexus phone doesn't really fare much better than another phone from say Samsung. If anything they're usually worse.

12 hours ago, AluminiumTech said:

Just use 1080p instead of 1440p. That would help battery life tremendously. No 4K or 1440p. Otherwise they're will be shitty battery life.

 

And then make sure the battery is sizable so maybe 3000mAh.

Samsung's 1440p screen was more efficient than the 1080p one it replaced. I don't think it really matters as much as most people think. If you truly want to improve battery life, there's a company that designed a screen that removes a layer between the screen and back light that increases battery life 50%. Things like that will improve battery life.

 

Mah is not the deciding factor when it comes to battery life. Efficient internals play a much larger part.

12 hours ago, Alir said:

My phone has a 720p display and that's more than enough. People who want 4k or even anything higher than 1080p are bloody stupid. In my respectful view.

 

I would ideally like a 1080p display, but that is only so that I can watch educational coding videos at a proper PC resolution.

 

Gaming, movies and TV shows don't even belong on phones.

 

You want that stuff, buy a tablet.

 

Funny thing is most consumers never even demanded these gimmicks like 4k displays. Advertisers and companies literally told you "you want this" and sheeple replied "yeah".

 

*Rumbles* Oh crap not again...

You have a very closed minded view, and just because something works for you does in no way mean that it's fine for everyone else.

 

Movies and TV shows don't belong on phones? They're there, and a ton of people use them. As is pretty clear by market polls and just seeing what people do with their phones. So clearly they belong there. It's one of the main uses of my friends phone. He doesn't want to take a tablet with him because, guess what, he can't fit it in his pocket.

 

10 hours ago, Technicolors said:

i guess they forgot that the s7 edge has a 3600 mah battery, which mind you is bigger than the nexus 6p's battery. and yet the s7 edge manages to be quite light and thin. i've already looked at user input over at XDA regarding the s7 edge's battery and they're getting some pretty great numbers, in some cases better than the nexus 6p. i can only guess it's the display

It's largely the SoC. Especially if they were testing the Exynos, which is considerably better on battery life than the SD820.

2 hours ago, AU_Gundam said:

Sounds like he has his head up his own anus. 

Especially considering the fact that Samsung is being praised (And rewarded with massive pre-orders for them) for the decision to make the S7 and S7 Edge thicker to accomodate better battery and additional storage. 

Also, first time I actually heard about Mobile Syrup. They are starting sound like nobodies to me. 

On an unrelated note, I seriously hope the rumors for Moto X 2016 are completely untrue when it is finally announced.

It's not like they made the phone thick. They increased it by an extremely minuscule amount. All they didn't do was chase the thin crown like Apple and some other manufacturers do.

 

What were the rumors for the Moto X 2016? They haven't really made an amazing all around device in years. Seems like they always mess something up.

 

10 minutes ago, crystal6tak said:

We need just one company to make a high end phone with large battery that's not stupidly large in size and they'll finally see there is a market for such phones.

 

So far all 4000+ mah phone that's not around or over 6 inch has mediatek chips and friggin 720P screen. ugh. 

There are a few 6"+ screened phones that really aren't that large.

The problem with putting larger batteries into smaller bodies is you notice the weight a lot more.

It matters to more consumers than you'd think.

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It may have, but what im talking about is multi day battery life, like 4 to 5 days of moderate-heavy usage. 1-2 days of heavy usage for me, is not enough.

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55 minutes ago, crystal6tak said:

We need just one company to make a high end phone with large battery that's not stupidly large in size and they'll finally see there is a market for such phones.

 

So far all 4000+ mah phone that's not around or over 6 inch has mediatek chips and friggin 720P screen. ugh. 

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only reason why i haven't picked one of those myself is because they don't have a removable battery

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Yeah, somewhat thicker phone to get better battery is good.

But. There needs to be a breakthrough already as far as type of batteries. On consumer level I'm hoping to see some type of new battery that can last multiple times as ones in todays phones in same size.

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Dizmo your post is not technically against the rules but please stop doing that: you don't need to answer everyone sorry you missed most of the thread but that post is infuriating shit. 

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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

If you look at what actually goes into a phone you'll see that it mostly is already battery. There isn't really much filling left to do, and yet people still complain...

The efficiency of a device directly affects the battery more than anything else...so I'm not sure why you don't care how efficient it is.

Actually a lot of companies phones are still fine. People just expect more speed. Technology advances, and things get faster, thus the older devices seem slower. Most Nexus phones of old still work perfectly fine, especially since Android has reduced system requirements over the years.

Actually most people like Apple because of the ecosystem, the style, and general build quality. I've never actually heard someone say "look at me I have an iPhone".

You must not use your phone that often, or on WiFi haha

Most of those phones are stuck on Verizon though. The X Play isn't, but honestly even with it's larger battery it didn't get great battery life. My Note5 does considerably better than the X Play I had with a considerably smaller battery and a larger screen.

There are numerous phones out there with batteries that exceed that amount.

Most of them were locked to Verizon. Others had lackluster spec compared to flagships, and honestly even with the larger batteries didn't get the best battery life.

Meaning what exactly? The S6 had an anemic battery for its size, they're just playing catch-up.

Cost. Why offer 2 models of the same phone, doubling the cost of production? Molds, design, engineering, etc would all be doubled. Not every company makes the fat profit margins that Apple does when it comes to cell phones, most barely get by as is.

I was tempted to get that phone for a long while! The small screen gives excellent battery life. However I decided to try a phablet, and I'm never going back..

OnePlus didn't have a huge battery, but their phone excelled in battery life.

A large screened phone is hardly a tablet...if you'd ever tried carrying one around you'd know that.

I'd argue that you don't want/need a smartphone at all. If you don't care about the OS or features, why not just get a regular cell phone? Those things last forever.

I disagree. Honestly, one shouldn't complain about having to replace the battery in a phone after a few years. Just pay the usually $90 to replace it. It's not like because it's sealed in it's impossible to replace.

One of my friends is the same way. I don't understand it though. If you finish the day with battery life left, hasn't your phone accomplished what it set out to do? Last the whole day? Why would you still want almost half the battery left? That still doesn't give you enough power to get through the next day.

Haha, interesting. Think about it though, you want to be able to do everything a PC can, in your hand. It takes a ton of power. I think they've done a brilliant job if you consider what you can do now compared to what was possible 10 years ago.

Funnily enough speed increases come from die shrinks, which give us better battery life. If the better performance comes with the shrink anyway, why not take it? Also, Samsung's 1440p screens were more efficient than the 1080p screens they replaced. So much so that it offset the drain by the higher resolution.

I disagree about the screen size, but each to their own.

The CPU's become more efficient as they get smaller, which also allows for more speed. They do a balancing act. It's not like they just cram the most mHz out of the SoC that they can. Look at SD, they actually cut the cores in half with their new chip.

I don't think bloat really has anything to do with it. A Nexus phone doesn't really fare much better than another phone from say Samsung. If anything they're usually worse.

Samsung's 1440p screen was more efficient than the 1080p one it replaced. I don't think it really matters as much as most people think. If you truly want to improve battery life, there's a company that designed a screen that removes a layer between the screen and back light that increases battery life 50%. Things like that will improve battery life.

 

Mah is not the deciding factor when it comes to battery life. Efficient internals play a much larger part.

You have a very closed minded view, and just because something works for you does in no way mean that it's fine for everyone else.

 

Movies and TV shows don't belong on phones? They're there, and a ton of people use them. As is pretty clear by market polls and just seeing what people do with their phones. So clearly they belong there. It's one of the main uses of my friends phone. He doesn't want to take a tablet with him because, guess what, he can't fit it in his pocket.

 

It's largely the SoC. Especially if they were testing the Exynos, which is considerably better on battery life than the SD820.

It's not like they made the phone thick. They increased it by an extremely minuscule amount. All they didn't do was chase the thin crown like Apple and some other manufacturers do.

 

What were the rumors for the Moto X 2016? They haven't really made an amazing all around device in years. Seems like they always mess something up.

 

There are a few 6"+ screened phones that really aren't that large.

The problem with putting larger batteries into smaller bodies is you notice the weight a lot more.

It matters to more consumers than you'd think.

Well, last I checked the Snapdragon 8xx series was all about high performance. And then there came energy efficiency. Not the other way around.

 

Honestly we need larger batteries in phones and more efficient chipsets. But also more OS level optimizations.

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2 hours ago, dizmo said:

One of my friends is the same way. I don't understand it though. If you finish the day with battery life left, hasn't your phone accomplished what it set out to do? Last the whole day? Why would you still want almost half the battery left? That still doesn't give you enough power to get through the next day.

Reason 1: It makes me feel more comfortable (I get uncomfortable once my phone has under 30% ish even if they day is almost over) :P

Reason 2: If, for whatever reason, I have a day much, much longer than usual I will still be able to make it through that day with no problem. It's just to be safe. There's no reason I think that you need a battery that lasts 2-3 days... if it lasts you one day then you can just charge it up during the night. Having a 2-3 day battery would only make your phone thicker and heavier and for me brings no benefit.

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Gotta make the phone thinner, right? Because totally noone buys power banks and power cases...

 

I have an LG G4, it's a bit on the bigger side, but I could totally take another 3 mm of thickness so I wouldn't have to worry about smashing the camera when I put it down. Thank god I have a huge mousepad, I never dare to put it carelessly on any hard table.

And then when it's thicker, I can have a bigger battery in it. But nononono, lets make a phone paperthin, get rid of the battery completely so that people will need power banks..

 

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Also, would probably get quite a bit better battery life by unbloating the G4, I just don't dare - too lazy to research how to. And that new snazzy SD820, wouldn't mind having that either :)

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