Gears of War Ultimate Edition on pc is a Disaster for AMD Radeon Gamers

[xAcid9]

So only on GCN 1.2?

From official forum

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Download Issues
After purchasing the game from the Windows Store, users may experience downloads not progressing and the progress bar may be slow to move. The game is downloading at the standard rate and will be completed shortly. Pausing and resuming your download may also incorrectly display the wrong progress values during your download. Do NOT restart your download as this will only delay the process.

AMD Performance
AMD is an important partner bringing the promise of DirectX 12 to life for gamers everywhere. We are working closely with them to address a few issues encountered in Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10 on AMD cards using GCN 1.1/GCN 1.2, and expect they will be addressed quickly in an upcoming update. Please visit AMD support pages for the latest on AMD drivers and software.

G-Sync™ Enabled Monitors
G-Sync™ is not supported by Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10. Running the Game with G-Sync™ enabled will cause significant performance issues. If you are using a G-Sync™ enabled monitor, you should disable it from the NVIDIA Control Panel. Alternatively, you can set Lock Framerate to OFF in the Video settings. Please visit NVIDIA support pages for the latest on NVIDIA drivers and software.

AMD and Ambient Occlusion setting
There are visual issues with AMD graphics cards and the Ambient Occlusion setting, it is strongly recommended to turn this setting OFF. We are readying a fix to be deployed in the coming days.

To turn OFF Ambient Occlusion:
- Launch Gears of War: Ultimate Edition for Windows 10
- From the Main Menu, go to Settings
- Select Video and set Ambient Occlusion to OFF

 

https://gearsofwar.com/en-us/forums/98be6d5e03f642a5b8b561883802d401/threads/win10---gears-of-war-ultimate-edition-windows-10-known-issues/9aa87281-98f1-4203-aed5-95ddb54420db/posts

 

 

It's not all fine and dandy for the green camp too.

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Playing on an Nvidia GTX 980 Ti made Gears of War look gorgeous, with textured debris and iridescent lighting piercing the dust of Marcus Fenix's crumbling world. But the framerate is liable to dip extremely low, especially when enemies are more numerous. Playing on a GTX 970, on the other hand, runs much more smoothly, for whatever reason--but pop-in textures disrupt Gears of War's visual flow, while screen tearing disrupts your aiming during crucial firefights.

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/gears-of-war-ultimate-edition-review/1900-6416223/

[Orangeator]

1 hour ago, Citadelen said:

No, they don't.

Why do you say that?

[Citadelen]

2 minutes ago, Orangeator said:

Why do you say that?

AMD hasn't used their influence to use underhand tactics to cripple performance on Nvidia cards.

[samcool55]

Well it has issues, and they admitted that and they are trying to fix it.

 

Soo what's the bad news here?

Isn't this exacly what every company should do if there are issues?

 

And they aren't yelling anything bad about someone else, like it should be. That's the adult way.

 

[grayperview]

MS gaming on PC dead before it even arrives....no matter what ever they put on their store no savy gamer gamer is going to buy from them, Fixing these "issues" after the fact sums up how half assed the whole thing is, if you're going to push gaming again on windows have your shit together before you start releasing games for your platform....or even better just put them on steam.

[Mr_Troll]

nvidia is apparently also affected 

 

 

 

 

[Misanthrope]

So shit port is shit? Good, lets move on to Vulkan.

[Samfisher]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

So shit port is shit? Good, lets move on to Vulkan.

And how would Vulkan solve this?  Bad port is bad port, Vulkan or not.

[-BirdiE-]

4 hours ago, Nexxus said:

lol runs perfectly fine on amd chip on xb one

 

Tanks on AMD chips on PC

 

Somehow this will be spun to be nvidias fault im sure.

You know one is an 8-core CPU, and the other is a GPU, right? Both built completely differently.

[Doobeedoo]

Microsoft is the one that needs to wake up and rethink their decisions as far as games on Windows Store in terms of those limitations. Optimization also a priority, specially cause of W10 and DX12 also GoW UE so it should be polished and great. Looking forward to GoW though.

[BuckGup]

I am starting to feel as if this isn't Nvidia's fault. I think it is AMDs fault for either not developing and testing better drivers faster or they aren't connecting with the devs. I don't know, it all feels like someone isn't doing something

[escape093]

AMD Fury runs at 15 FPS

Xbox One runs at 60 FPS

 

Therefore the Xbox One is 4x more powerful than the Fury! Hooray! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)

[Demonking]

I Blame Gameworks 

[Nexxus]

1 hour ago, -BirdiE- said:

You know one is an 8-core CPU, and the other is a GPU, right? Both built completely differently.

im well aware.

[-BirdiE-]

3 minutes ago, Nexxus said:

im well aware.

Haha. Ok. I guess I just didn't get it

[Nexxus]

1 minute ago, -BirdiE- said:

Haha. Ok. I guess I just didn't get it

the point im making is its clearly AMDs fuck up since the game was build to run on AMD hardware, no gameworks scapegoat for the poor performance. 

[ApolloEleven]

10 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

The xbone is 2 generations behind of the fury (or is it 3?) So this is almost for sure a driver issue.

Xbone is basically a GTX 480 or an AMD equivalent card.

[ApolloEleven]

6 hours ago, -BirdiE- said:

You know one is an 8-core CPU, and the other is a GPU, right? Both built completely differently.

One is an APU. The other uses a discrete GPU aka graphics card.

[Humbug]

On my old GTX 9600gt I had over the years a few game crashes or black screens in specific titles which didn't affect majority of nvidia users, only those with a certain GPU. I am not excusing the devs but I can sympathize...

 

what happens is game devs test on both AMD and Nvidia. But if there is an issue which only crops up on a certain chip it can be easily missed. In this case they probably didn't test on any GCN 1.2 chips.

 

[Prysin]

18 hours ago, zMeul said:

the AMD APU in XB1 is based on GCN 1.1 while the Fiji GPU is based on GCN 1.2 - so, just one revision apart

Wrong its gcn 1.0

1.0 = pitcairn

1.1 = hawaii

 

Its based on a 7850

[Smite]

5 hours ago, Humbug said:

On my old GTX 9600gt I had over the years a few game crashes or black screens in specific titles which didn't affect majority of nvidia users, only those with a certain GPU. I am not excusing the devs but I can sympathize...

 

what happens is game devs test on both AMD and Nvidia. But if there is an issue which only crops up on a certain chip it can be easily missed. In this case they probably didn't test on any GCN 1.2 chips.

 

Why would you not test on as much as possible. If I pour this much money on developing a game I would think I would be able to afford a variety of cards and hardware.

 

Maybe there is just this ultimate breakdown of communication from AMD and Nvida with Devs. They should have good communication about drivers etc. It's not like this is a one man band indy dev doing a release. 

[xAcid9]

4 hours ago, Prysin said:

Wrong its gcn 1.0

1.0 = pitcairn

1.1 = hawaii

 

Its based on a 7850

I thought XPotato1 use custom Bonaire chip (GCN1.1)? Piss-S4 was the one that use custom Pitcairn chip (GCN1.0).

[Prysin]

54 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

I thought XPotato1 use custom Bonaire chip (GCN1.1)? Piss-S4 was the one that use custom Pitcairn chip (GCN1.0).

its the exact same fucking Jaguar APU but with a few tweaks for each console.

it is made up of 2x AMD Athlon 5350 (quad core low power CPU), these are glued together in a MCM fashion. This is paired with a GCN1.0 pitcairn GPU, however Tahiti is also gen 1, so it could be a 7970 based product, but ive read in some other places that it is based off a 7850...

or as wikipedia lists it

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Though based on AMD's GCN architecture, there are several known differentiating factors between the PS4's GPU and current-gen PC graphics cards featuring first-gen GCN architecture:

The onboard audio processor of the APU is a remarkebly similar one to that of AMDs True Audio, however it is not identical. So perhaps a early version of the True Audio system that was only first introduced with the GCN 1.1 based GPUs, aka Hawaii and Bonaire...

 

MS clocked their CPU higher (to help with Kinect and some other OS features), they also reduced the amount of SPs by about 30%, however these are clocked marginally higher to retain performance. THen they litterally overengineered the cooling solution to the point that they would NEVER get "red ring of death" again....

 

Sony clocked their CPU lower, but they use a ARM co-processor for most of the simple OS tasks. This way they cut down on the CPU load. INstead they added more SPs to the iGPU to increase graphical fidelity. Cooling solution is adequate to keep both the APU + PSU (power brick is inside) cooled without throttling. Yes it is louder, but that is because they chose a higher RPM solution in order to make the chassis slimmer.

 

Sonys PS4 has 18 CUs or "compute units" and 8 ACEs, allowing for 64 queue deep async compute (equal to hawaii).  whilst the Xbox has 12 CUs and 2 ACEs, for a total of 16 queue deep async compute.

 

According to wikipedia, the PS4 has a 230-250w PSU (newer models has smaller PSU due to OS being optimized over time to use upwards of 80% less power then upon launch), but max load on a PS4 rarely, if ever, exceeds 160w. Even with the PS camera attached.

 

Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_4_technical_specifications#Hardware_modules

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_One

 

[Guest Kloaked]

18 hours ago, Nexxus said:

the point im making is its clearly AMDs fuck up since the game was build to run on AMD hardware, no gameworks scapegoat for the poor performance. 

I don't think AMD nor Nvidia is solely to blame. A majority of the issues with games performing as bad as they do come from the development side of things, generally.

[xAcid9]

12 minutes ago, Prysin said:

its the exact same fucking Jaguar APU but with a few tweaks for each console.

it is made up of 2x AMD Athlon 5350 (quad core low power CPU), these are glued together in a MCM fashion. This is paired with a GCN1.0 pitcairn GPU, however Tahiti is also gen 1, so it could be a 7970 based product, but ive read in some other places that it is based off a 7850...

-snip- 

Hard to determine since both use custom chip so they can put whatever they want in it but looking at the GPU core counts the PS4 seem like using a cutdown of 7850 and a cutdown of 7790 for the XB1, probably to maximize yield. idk