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Why Microsoft Can't Keep $150 Xbox Controller In Stock

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But is it worth that much? I seriously doubt it.

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Eh I'm fine with my X360 wired controller, I actually just picked up a PS4 controller and a Gamecube+Mayflash adapter, both going to be used for emulation. Love them both already.

 

I've tried using a Xbone controller, it just feels too...sharp? I don't know how to explain, it just feels way off than what the X360 controllers feel like, definitely not in my comfort zone.

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My friend who lost an arm wants to get this for playing pc games

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This was bound to happen. I mean joysticks and stearing wheels have had a huge quality improvement years ago. Controlers had to come next. I find this a good thing since it will bring inovation and lower prices in the end.

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I'm feeling positive today (I know, disgusting) So I think this is positive to prepare console buyers to get incremental upgrades: the xbone elite should actually have more horse power and set itself to higher settings while games can scale between skus.

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I'm feeling positive today (I know, disgusting) So I think this is positive to prepare console buyers to get incremental upgrades: the xbone elite should actually have more horse power and set itself to higher settings while games can scale between skus.

That's far more work and basically a PC. You know as well as I that is not how the console market works.
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What's the purpose of wasting money on this?

You get 3 more internets and 9X more no scopes. 

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Funny Burnie Burns just broke his because the bumpers are utter garbage 

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I don't get why you'd spend £150ish on this controller when plenty of companies sell their own custom controllers that are just as good in quality for a much lower price.

 

the only other company that can rival the Elite's quality is Scuf and they're actually pricier.

 

On another note, if I didn't stray away from console gaming I would have purchased this controller. It's no different from my mechy with browns. A mesh keyboard would have suited me just fine if I wanted basic things but the thing is, I don't want basic things.

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I don't get why you'd spend £150ish on this controller when plenty of companies sell their own custom controllers that are just as good in quality for a much lower price.

 

Same reason I have multiple keyboards that cost about the same as this controller. Its a really freaking nice controller. 

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I want one of those and both the Halo controllers just for the looks...

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What's the purpose of wasting money on this?

What is the purpose of spending £140 on a mouse and keyboard?

 

the only other company that can rival the Elite's quality is Scuf and they're actually pricier.

 

On another note, if I didn't stray away from console gaming I would have purchased this controller. It's no different from my mechy with browns. A mesh keyboard would have suited me just fine if I wanted basic things but the thing is, I don't want basic things.

Didnt the article say microsoft are making it WITH Scuf?

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What's the purpose of wasting money on this?

Whats the point of spending money on

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So my takeaway from the story

Scuf have patents on an xbox controller, the patent system is interesting...

Microsoft have the patent for the controller, Scuf have patents for modifications to said controller but without microsofts initial controller scuf wouldn't have anything to modify in the first place.

I understand it's reasonable and it's business but I still think it's hilarious

Same goes with Mophie's patents for an iPhone battery case, which resulted in Apple's battery case - an abysmal attempt to get around Mophie's patents.

Apple isn't tasteless. They know the design of that case was atrocious. But Mophie had the "good" design for a battery case patented up, down, and sideways, so Apple was forced into it.

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I have one and still think the price was too much but that doesn't mean I don't like it. I just wish ABXY were mechanical like on the Razer Xbox controllers I'm too used to that. I also wish there were more options for the paddles. Think they could be 3D printed?

They aren't mechanical switches?? Jesus... I can't stand the regular xbox buttons after using a razer controller.

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They aren't mechanical switches?? Jesus... I can't stand the regular xbox buttons after using a razer controller.

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Scuf owns the patent for the microsoft elite controller I bet they're rolling in it. After buying a Scuf One I became a god on Call of Duty. B)

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"built with Scuf Gaming technology."

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Scuf owns the patent for the microsoft elite controller I bet they're rolling in it. After buying a Scuf One I became a god on Call of Duty. B)

It looks to me as if the Scuff one (not the XBone label'd one) is made a bit better.

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Waaait..

"built with Scuf Gaming technology."

Okaaaay, I didn't know that

It just the patents really the build and button style id different. Putting that branding with the marketing was probably agreed on as part of payment.

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my question is why would anyone actually want one of those things

so me they seem to have a cheaper build when it comes to materials and a worse design in general. Only reason MS has to pay them anything is they have the patents on the idea.

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I totally want one of these....so much so that I'll likely buy a second hand Xbox to save money, and buy one to compliment it.

 

 

I can't imagine the abxy feel fundamentally different with the elite controller as does a mechanical keyboard and a decent mouse.

 

The trash dpad is a different story though.

There's much more to it than that, you get replaceable thumb sticks, as well as the additional bumpers on the bottom and the adjustable triggers. Also, the software.
Luke said he'd pay the extra just for the triggers alone, and I'd probably have to agree.

 

So my takeaway from the story

Scuf have patents on an xbox controller, the patent system is interesting...
Microsoft have the patent for the controller, Scuf have patents for modifications to said controller but without microsofts initial controller scuf wouldn't have anything to modify in the first place.

I understand it's reasonable and it's business but I still think it's hilarious

The patent system is a joke, and very broken haha

I still think they should overhaul it so that companies can't patent something and then do absolutely nothing with it.

 

But is it worth that much? I seriously doubt it.

Worth is a pretty subjective term. Nothing is really "worth" what it costs.

Clearly this is, judging by sales and demand metrics.

 

Eh I'm fine with my X360 wired controller, I actually just picked up a PS4 controller and a Gamecube+Mayflash adapter, both going to be used for emulation. Love them both already.

 

I've tried using a Xbone controller, it just feels too...sharp? I don't know how to explain, it just feels way off than what the X360 controllers feel like, definitely not in my comfort zone.

I totally know what you mean, the first time I used my buddies it was horrific. You get used to it after a while, much like anything else.

 

I don't get why you'd spend £150ish on this controller when plenty of companies sell their own custom controllers that are just as good in quality for a much lower price.

Software support. I don't believe any of the other companies have it.

 

My friend who lost an arm wants to get this for playing pc games

Huh? Wouldn't a controller be useless without two arms?

 

Whats the point of spending money on

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High End Mice

High End Cars?

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The other two, not so much.

...I don't think many people buy high end cars for epeen extension ;)

 

Same goes with Mophie's patents for an iPhone battery case, which resulted in Apple's battery case - an abysmal attempt to get around Mophie's patents.

Apple isn't tasteless. They know the design of that case was atrocious. But Mophie had the "good" design for a battery case patented up, down, and sideways, so Apple was forced into it.

Mmmm, see usually I'd agree, but they are the designers that decided to make a wireless mouse with the charging port on the bottom...

 

It looks to me as if the Scuff one (not the XBone label'd one) is made a bit better.

Better quality, perhaps, but I don't think nearly as useful. The bottom bumpers are just additional top buttons (they mirror them), where as on the Elite I believe they're completely different and programmable with software. Sort of becomes a form or function argument.

I also like Microsoft's version of the bumper control better.

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RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics

PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit

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CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5

RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980

PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73

Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

OG Gaming Rig - Gone

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CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970

PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX

Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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Because all the 11 year old "MLG" COD players begged their parents for one for christmas.

LMAO  :D

Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it.

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my question is why would anyone actually want one of those things

They give you more of an edge when gaming with them versus a regular xbox one controller.

 

So now microsoft is making accessories Pay to Win? That's fucked up.

Judge a product on its own merits AND the company that made it.

How to setup MSI Afterburner OSD | How to make your AMD Radeon GPU more efficient with Radeon Chill | (Probably) Why LMG Merch shipping to the EU is expensive

Oneplus 6 (Early 2023 to present) | HP Envy 15" x360 R7 5700U (Mid 2021 to present) | Steam Deck (Late 2022 to present)

 

Mid 2023 AlTech Desktop Refresh - AMD R7 5800X (Mid 2023), XFX Radeon RX 6700XT MBA (Mid 2021), MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon (Early 2018), 32GB DDR4-3200 (16GB x2) (Mid 2022

Noctua NH-D15 (Early 2021), Corsair MP510 1.92TB NVMe SSD (Mid 2020), beQuiet Pure Wings 2 140mm x2 & 120mm x1 (Mid 2023),

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