VideoCardz | Sapphire Radeon 300 series list leaked

[zMeul]

source: http://videocardz.com/56171/sapphire-radeon-300-series-listed-online

• Sapphire Radeon R9 390X TRI-X OC 8GB GDDR5 (11241-00-20G)

The full Hawaii-based Radeon R9 390X comes with 8GB of memory and new Tri-X cooling solution. The listing revealed that this card will be factory-overclocked, so you should expect clocks slightly higher than reference 1050/1500 MHz (core, memory). Listed outputs: DVI-D, HDMI

• Sapphire Radeon R9 390 NITRO (TRI-X OC) 8GB GDDR5 (11244-00-20G)

Sapphire’s Hawaii-PRO Radeon R9 390 will be part of new NITRO series. This card will also come with 8GB GDDR5 memory and it will also feature TRI-X cooling solution. It is unknown how NITRO’s coolers will differentiate from ‘normal’ TRI-X series. Listed outputs: DVI-D, HDMI, 3x DP

• Sapphire Radeon R9 380 NITRO (DUAL-X OC) 4GB GDDR5 (11242-07-20G)

Another NITRO part is Radeon R9 380 based on Tonga GPU. This card has 4GB memory so we can’t simply call it R9 285 rebrand (there were no Tonga cards with 4GB memory before). Listed outputs: DL-DVI-I, DL-DVI-D, HDMI

• Sapphire Radeon R9 380 ITX 2GB GDDR5 (11242-02-20G)

Now this is the actual, refreshed R9 285. It has the same memory configuration, and it will also be available in ITX form factor. Listed outputs: DVI-I, HDMI, 2X MINI-DP

• Sapphire Radeon R7 370 NITRO (DUAL-X OC) 4GB GDDR5 (11240-04-20G)

Curacao/Pitcairn based Radeon R7 370 is the fastest R7 300 part. It is unknown if AMD is planning R7 370X model at later date, but if 370X would also be based on Curacao, then I would strongly advice against such decision. In fact it already happened with R9 270/270X, both featuring the same GPU configuration (oh boy, that was confusing). Listed outputs: DVI-D, DVI-I, HDMI

• Sapphire Radeon R7 370 (DUAL-X OC) 2GB GDDR5 (11240-06-20G)

Another Curacao card from Sapphire, only this one has 2GB memory, thus it should be cheaper. Listed outputs: DVI-D, DVI-I, HDMI, DP

• Sapphire Radeon R7 360 2GB GDDR5 (11243-00-20G)

The last listed card is Radeon R7 360. This model is based on Bonaire GPU (HD 7790), so it should be considered entry-level at this point.

 

 

 

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as expected, rebrands of rebrands of rebrands - this is really sad AMD ...

also, looks like Tahiti is not making a come back

[minibois]

Sounds pretty good in terms of variety..

But why is the 70 card now R7? (Instead of R9, like the R9 270 and R9 270X)

[IMPERIUS]

Idk how I should feel about the rebrands thing. If it works as expected, where is the problem? On the other side I know its a rebrand. But where can that be a downside if the card gets the same results as nvidia cards with the same price (hypothetically, we don't have any benchmarks yet)

[Real_PhillBert]

So I haven't been paying as much attention to the new AMD cards as I should have been, which cards are re-brands? All of them, minus the Fury?

[Sharkyx1]

the 370 should just be a 1536 Tonga Part, like the 7930(7870XT was the actual name), they really need to get pitcairn off the new models board

[zMeul]

So I haven't been paying as much attention to the new AMD cards as I should have been, which cards are re-brands? All of them, minus the Fury?

yeah, pretty much - quite sad 

[MEC-777]

I called it. 200 series would = 300 series, refresh/rebrands with the same names. 390 = 290 and so-on.

[Sharkyx1]

So I haven't been paying as much attention to the new AMD cards as I should have been, which cards are re-brands? All of them, minus the Fury?

390X          -> 290X +4GB of ram

390 "Nitro" -> 290 with +4GB ram

380            ->285 with 384 mem bus and +2GB ram

370 "Nitro" -> 270=7870 (This is the original GCN launch in 2012, NO Freesync, no additional features)

360            ->260X=7790

[Real_PhillBert]

yeah, pretty much - quite sad 

 

So the 390X is just an overclocked 290X with 8gb VRAM? 

 

Yikes.

[GrimNeo]

Meh

[Real_PhillBert]

390X-> 290X +4GB of ram

380 = 290 with +4GB ram

380 =285 with 384 mem bus and +2GB ram

370 "Nitro" = 270=7870

360=260X =7790

 

Thanks! I appreciate the quick info.

[TroubleKlef]

Could these names be any longer? Sapphire Radeon R7 370 NITRO (DUAL-X OC) 4GB GDDR5?!?!?!?

[Colonel_Gerdauf]

So I haven't been paying as much attention to the new AMD cards as I should have been, which cards are re-brands? All of them, minus the Fury?

390(x) and 380(x) are rebrands

370(x) and 360(x) are rebrands of rebrands

[dragosudeki]

 

as expected, rebrands of rebrands of rebrands - this is really sad AMD ...

Rebrands of rebrands of rebrands and still getting the same kind of performance gains that Nvidia gets when they went from 700s to 900s (Unless you factor in Nvidia gameworks which pretty much destroys performance on all cards other than 900 series). I don't get what is wrong with rebrands? You want a 100% performance increase so that we have to buy new cards every year? I'd much prefer that my 290 doesn't get outdated with AMD's features as easily as the 700 series did with Nvidia features.

 

I don't think any of these cards are truly new until something like HBM starts being used...

[MEC-777]

So I haven't been paying as much attention to the new AMD cards as I should have been, which cards are re-brands? All of them, minus the Fury?

 

Depends how you define "rebrand", but basically everything except Fury (Fiji) and 380X which will be the new fully unlocked Tonga. 

 

As stated in many other threads on the 300 series, we don't know the extent of the changes and tweaks (if any) that will be made to the GPUs being re-used. Some may be pretty much 1:1 rebrands with a new label, while others may receive new/revised PCBs with other additional changes/tweaks which technically makes them "new" cards but with the same GPU chip/die as their 200 series counterpart. We'll just have to wait and see to be sure.  

[zMeul]

Rebrands of rebrands of rebrands and still getting the same kind of performance gains that Nvidia gets when they went from 700s to 900s (Unless you factor in Nvidia gameworks which currently destroys performance on all cards other than 900 series). I don't get what is wrong with rebrands? You want a 100% performance increase so that we have to buy new cards every year? I'd much prefer that my 290 doesn't get outdated with AMD's features as easily as the 700 series did with Nvidia features.

 

I don't think any of these cards are truly new until something like HBM starts being used...

let's see, case of R7 370:

• no TrueAudio
• no FreeSync
• DirectX 12 features level limited to 11_1

nothing wrong there, right?

 

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AMD's goal is to increase their market share, this is exactly how not do it

a R9 290X owner will buy a R9 390X for what reason?

[Humbug]

Rebrands of rebrands of rebrands and still getting the same kind of performance gains that Nvidia gets when they went from 700s to 900s

Ya that's the bottom line. AMD doesn't need anything new to easily beat cards like the 750ti on performance. An ancient 7870 midrange from 2012 is enough. They will only develop what they have to. E.g. They had to make a new high end (Fiji) to stay with NVIDIA. When you are trying to achieve profitability you have to spend your resources intelligently.

[Real_PhillBert]

Depends how you define "rebrand", but basically everything except Fury (Fiji) and 380X which will be the new fully unlocked Tonga. 

 

As stated in many other threads on the 300 series, we don't know the extent of the changes and tweaks (if any) that will be made to the GPUs being re-used. Some may be pretty much 1:1 rebrands with a new label, while others may receive new/revised PCBs with other additional changes/tweaks which technically makes them "new" cards but with the same GPU chip/die as their 200 series counterpart. We'll just have to wait and see to be sure.  

 

Sorry, I haven't kept up with the GPU wars since the 900's dropped. 

 

I know what you are saying about tweaking the existing GPU's, so they may perform slightly better than the current offerings.

 

I expected some to be rebrands simply because of the smaller budget that AMD can throw at R&D when compared to Nvidia. But am I wrong in seeing only one truly new GPU, the Fury? 

[Humbug]

But am I wrong in seeing only one truly new GPU, the Fury?

Current rumours state that the midrange will also have a new Tonga GPU. basically a fully unlocked version of the r9 285.

[Real_PhillBert]

Current rumours state that the midrange will also have a new Tonga GPU. basically a fully unlocked version of the r9 285.

 

Ok, thanks for the clarification. 

[MEC-777]

AMD's goal is to increase their market share, this is exactly how not do it

a R9 290X owner will buy a R9 390X for what reason?

 

Your logic is flawed. A 290X owner would not buy a 390X. Most 290X owners would either buy a Fury (depending on performance gain) or wait and buy a 490X etc. The 390X is clearly not aimed at current 290X owners. 

 

The people who would buy a 390X would be coming from on older gen card (7970 or ?) and be looking up upgrade to something in their price range. 

 

Just like how my friend didn't upgrade from his GTX 680 to a 780 and then again to a 980. Instead, he kept his 680 and now just ordered a 980Ti. Like many people would do, he waited until there was a worth while upgrade that suited his budget. Same reason I didn't go from a 7950 to an R9 280. I jumped to a 290 instead.

[zMeul]

Your logic is flawed. A 290X owner would not buy a 390X. Most 290X owners would either buy a Fury

my logic is not flawed - buying a Fury, as rumored, will not be cheap

there are a lot of people tired of waiting for AMD, went and bought the new version of the 290X with 8Gb of VRAM, do you actually think they will dump that for a 4Gb card?!!? for at least double the money!?

[bogus]

my logic is not flawed - buying a Fury, as rumored, will not be cheap

there are a lot of people tired of waiting for AMD, went and bought the new version of the 290X with 8Gb of VRAM, do you actually think they will dump that for a 4Gb card?!!? for at least double the money!?

That's the thing, you have no ideia - the rumours are all over the place, and people stretch the shit out of them in pages and pages of posts - just to be put to silence with a new rumour... and start the same shit all over again.

It's fucking ridiculous, that's all - yet you still insist on commenting on something that was completly different few days ago!

[zMeul]

That's the thing, you have no ideia - the rumours are all over the place, and people stretch the shit out of them in pages and pages of posts - just to be put to silence with a new rumour... and start the same shit all over again.

It's fucking ridiculous, that's all - yet you still insist on commenting on something that was completly different few days ago!

AMD fanboys really hoped AMD 3xx series would not be rebrands/rebadges/wateva' .. they should start cooking that crow any time now, 8 days more until the big reveal

and whoever thinks that Fury, with HBM, will be cheap ... oh boy, they need a reality check

[ivan134]

my logic is not flawed - buying a Fury, as rumored, will not be cheap

there are a lot of people tired of waiting for AMD, went and bought the new version of the 290X with 8Gb of VRAM, do you actually think they will dump that for a 4Gb card?!!? for at least double the money!?

It's definitely flawed and also sad, as you seem to be characterizing AMD, because you're talking as if these are facts.