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You need to reread your comment, and have a long hard think. Also I would suggest learning multiplication.

 

Not really. @Sharkyx1 claimed that doubling Vram doubles the bus width. If this is true, then the 8GB versions of the 290X should have a 1024bit bus. But they don't, they're 512, same as the 4GB 290X's. I even posted a link to Sapphires website for their 290X 8GB where it lists a 512 bit bus with 8GB capacity.  

 

Yeah tonga xt should have more cores than the 285, and a wider bit bus.

 

I don't know if it would be cost effective to cut down tonga even more for the 370, I think this is where they should have gone with a new chip, to at least support freesync, trueaudio, etc. or maybe they were able to update it so it supports those features.

 

But think about this; if you can afford to pay the premium for a freesync monitor, you most likely are not buying a more budget oriented card like a 370 and can afford something more powerful.  

 

I did exactly that. I bought a GTX-980 for $200 more than a R9-290X, and we all know the performance difference is fairly narrow gap.

 

I admit that I am a bit of an efficiency junky, and that it's not wildly common. I even 100% agree with you on the Titan X thermal throttling. That card needs an aftermarket cooler or water cooling to be honest. 

 

And I did the opposite. I was ready to purchase a 970 when I saw this 290 on sale for more than $100 less. My decision was based purely on performance per dollar. 

 

There is a wide range of factors that play into how we decide what we want. It's interesting to see the differences from person to person, but it's also the source of a lot of unnecessary arguments as well. ;)

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Not really. @Sharkyx1 claimed that doubling Vram doubles the bus width. If this is true, then the 8GB versions of the 290X should have a 1024bit bus. But they don't, they're 512, same as the 4GB 290X's. I even posted a link to Sapphires website for their 290X 8GB where it lists a 512 bit bus with 8GB capacity.

That's not what I said, I said that vram size is tied to bit rate 512 bit bus can connect to 1,2,4,8,16 gig cards and so on

Just that 3 gigs doesn't work in A 512 bit bus and so on

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4gb on 270 wow. I like that :)

Maybe nvidia will finally put 4gb on X60 as standard config.

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That's not what I said, I said that vram size is tied to bit rate 512 bit bus can connect to 1,2,4,8,16 gig cards and so on

Just that 3 gigs doesn't work in A 512 bit bus and so on

 

Ah ok, now I understand what you're saying. 

 

And because it's rumored the full Tonga might be 384bit, that implies 3GB (or 6 etc.) Vram. Got it. ;) 

 

I'm still thinking it will be 256 for 2 or 4GB, but we shall see. I could be wrong. 

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I would like to post this question: How may PC gamers/enthusiasts REALLY ACTUALLY care about power efficiency? How many actually care enough that they would gladly spend more money on a card that performs the same or slower than the competing card, purely because of the power efficiency? I would wager not too many

Nvidia fanboys, and there are a lot of them.

 

And before anyone accuses me of fighting for the other side. No. My GPU right now is a 780 Ti which replaced a 280X which replaced a 7850 in turn. I personally would not mind a very power hungry card as long as the power consumption is proportionally justified by the raw performance and the TDP that it results in is properly dissipated.

 

That's why right now my next upgrade if I ever needed it would be a 295x2. That card actually is more efficient than a 780 Ti SLI in anything other than FurMark.

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Nvidia fanboys, and there are a lot of them.

 

And before anyone accuses me of fighting for the other side. No. My GPU right now is a 780 Ti which replaced a 280X which replaced a 7850 in turn. I personally would not mind a very power hungry card as long as the power consumption is proportionally justified by the raw performance and the TDP that it results in is properly dissipated.

 

That's why right now my next upgrade if I ever needed it would be a 295x2. That card actually is more efficient than a 780 Ti SLI in anything other than FurMark.

 

FYI, Furmark is a known card killer. I would strongly advise not running that program if you value your card's longevity. It puts an unrealistically high load/demand on the card that no actual game would ever present. 3Dmark, Valley, Heaven and most in-game benchmarks are best for providing real-world performance analysis (and much safer for your card(s) ). ;)  

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FYI, Furmark is a known card killer. I would strongly advise not running that program if you value your card's longevity. It puts an unrealistically high load/demand on the card that no actual game would ever present. 3Dmark, Valley, Heaven and most in-game benchmarks are best for providing real-world performance analysis (and much safer for your card(s) ).I k

I know. And in lieu of that I only run it for a few seconds at a time to see if my cards are actually working at the right boost clock because it takes literally seconds to load up compared to a more reliable bench suite like 3DMark for instance. 

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