Cannabis Legalisation

[KemoKa]

read back on the post of marijuana vs tobacco. marijuana increases lung capacity meaing more oxygen intake into the body meaning more oxygen going to muscles meaning they run farther given that the two people have the same muscle mass and training regime

As I said, that's not how it works, especially when you intake all that smoke. Regardless of how large your lungs are, if you smoke anything, your body will adapt and get used to having less and less oxygen. If you are a heavy smoker and you suddenly go out and run a mile, the result would not be pretty. To run any distance, your body has to be trained to use oxygen efficiently. Smoke of any kind will impair that.

[fruit loops are my kink]

As I said, that's not how it works, especially when you intake all that smoke. Regardless of how large your lungs are, if you smoke anything, your body will adapt and get used to having less and less oxygen. If you are a heavy smoker and you suddenly go out and run a mile, the result would not be pretty. To run any distance, your body has to be trained to use oxygen efficiently. Smoke of any kind will impair that.

human body is capable of more than you think. if a person smoked heavily and undertook the same training regime as an athlete his body would adapt over time giving no difference between the athletes. 

[Real_PhillBert]

alcohol and heroin are two completely different things. heroin is the most addictive substance in the world. ONE hit and your addicted for life and always tempted to try it again. I believe in people making their own decisions as well as the right ones but for some people, taking heroin if it was legal could be considered a good thing. alcohol i dont agree with but its not an addictive substance in comparison to heroin.

You don't agree that alcohol has killed people?

You seem to have either missed or ignored what I said completely. My thoughts on narcotic legalization is not based on the effect they have on the body but on the idea of true freedom over your body.

[WillFromGA]

that doesnt mean to say your gunna get high or fail a drug test. dont be so naive

I never said that... I did say that I don't know what it would do to me and I know that it isn't good for you.

[fruit loops are my kink]

You don't agree that alcohol has killed people?

You seem to have either missed or ignored what I said completely. My thoughts on narcotic legalization is not based on the effect they have on the body but on the idea of true freedom over your body.

i thought my posts came across as agreeing with alcohol killing people but it seems this isnt the case. yes i do agree alcohol has killed people. yes i agree people should have freedom over their own body. no i dont agree heroin should be legal as some people are idiots and will try things when pressured into it. I reiterate, SOME people are idiots and will try things when pressured into it. which is why i dont agree all drugs should be legal.

[fruit loops are my kink]

I'm sorry, but there are plenty of other studies showing a decrease in memory retention in weed users, and I do have sources to back it up. Here's one.

http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2013/12/marijuana-users-have-abnormal-brain-structure--poor-memory.html

 

Lung health and capacity increases and cancer-reducing agents in weed smoke? sounds magical. It also sounds ridiculous. You don't increase lung capacity by breathing carbon monoxide and dioxide. your lungs' capacity is determined by how strong your diaphragm is. It said nothing about the average blood oxygen level, which will almost certainly have been reduced. Lack of oxygen has been proven over and over again to kill brain cells. It happens at a chemical level. The capacity has nothing to do with how well your lungs function, it's a direct result of the muscle exercise that smoking weed gives the lungs. The idea is to suck in the gas and hold it as long as possible. That'll be a detriment to your oxygen levels, your brain, and thus your overall health.

I find it strange how you cite a single source that says weed is not bad for you, but then when multiple sources stating the opposite are presented to you, you immediately dismiss them as bad studies because of a smaller test group. And then when asked to cite more sources, you ignore it.

Find a problem with my source other than sample size. was the MRI scanner wrong? is this university biased?

i say they are bad studies because they dont take into account variables of people drinking, smoking tobacco, mental health issues (before taking weed) etc. that could influence the results. I dont ignore when people ask me to cite more sources because as I said before if you read back, there arent many good studies done on this subject in general due to small test groups. Im not saying the MRI scanner was wrong or the university is biased im saying that all variables should be taken into account and these variables can be minimalised with bigger test groups. understand my point now? or do you think im just an idiot who has no idea what im talking about because your posts are coming across that way. I use this point because this is how scientists view all studies. I should know as im studying to become one as i said and its one of the first things taught to young scientists

[zappian]

i say they are bad studies because they dont take into account variables of people drinking, smoking tobacco, mental health issues (before taking weed) etc. that could influence the results. I dont ignore when people ask me to cite more sources because as I said before if you read back, there arent many good studies done on this subject in general due to small test groups. Im not saying the MRI scanner was wrong or the university is biased im saying that all variables should be taken into account and these variables can be minimalised with bigger test groups. understand my point now? or do you think im just an idiot who has no idea what im talking about because your posts are coming across that way. I use this point because this is how scientists view all studies. I should know as im studying to become one as i said and its one of the first things taught to young scientists

 

Im wondering OP what do you think about vaporization , it solves all the problems most people have with pot.

[Real_PhillBert]

i thought my posts came across as agreeing with alcohol killing people but it seems this isnt the case. yes i do agree alcohol has killed people. yes i agree people should have freedom over their own body. no i dont agree heroin should be legal as some people are idiots and will try things when pressured into it. I reiterate, SOME people are idiots and will try things when pressured into it. which is why i dont agree all drugs should be legal.

You are responsible for your choices, no mater how dumb. 

 

Trying to legislate safety never works.

[mr moose]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.htmlthere you go

It's just a shame it's taking so long to further this.  how sad is it that that article is 2.25 years old and we're still fighting for legislation for its' use medicinally?

[Kamina]

The almighty Kamina continues to live because of this ganja. I don't even touch my norco because of the horrible side effects it has on my body, and at the moment I can't take any NSAIDs.

[Butterfish]

a.) you can't overdose weed (well, in theory you can but it would take 10k++ joints in short time which is not possible in reality)

but you can get really really ill if you smoke too much But i guess that's the same for alcohol.

[fruit loops are my kink]

Im wondering OP what do you think about vaporization , it solves all the problems most people have with pot.

vaporization is only used with THC so it is a deliberate method to "get high". CBD isnt used in vaporization so i get pharmacies could make a device similar to an E-cig and use vaporization that way for pain relieve I suppose. it would be a step aswell i suppose

[fruit loops are my kink]

You are responsible for your choices, no mater how dumb. 

 

Trying to legislate safety never works.

It does work. dont be an idiot and say it "never" works. ill agree sometimes it doesnt work but to to say it "never" works is naive and irresponsible 

[mr moose]

It does work. dont be an idiot and say it "never" works. ill agree sometimes it doesnt work but to to say it "never" works is naive and irresponsible 

exactly,

 

There are cases of bad laws and cases of good laws.  Unfortunately due to human nature there are always going to be people who need laws to protect them, A great example of this is how many people are still alive today because the law made them wear a seat belt or motorbike helmet.

[fruit loops are my kink]

exactly,

 

There are cases of bad laws and cases of good laws.  Unfortunately due to human nature there are always going to be people who need laws to protect them, A great example of this is how many people are still alive today because the law made them wear a seat belt or motorbike helmet.

[lutewan]

why i dont like it, it fuckin smells like shit

anyway i wouldnt care if it was legal i would never use it

i dont think getting high is the best thing for your body (or getting drunk)

[fruit loops are my kink]

why i dont like it, it fuckin smells like shit

anyway i wouldnt care if it was legal i would never use it

i dont think getting high is the best thing for your body (or getting drunk)

well there studies to show its medical benefits so i would argue against your point. 

[zappian]

vaporization is only used with THC so it is a deliberate method to "get high". CBD isnt used in vaporization so i get pharmacies could make a device similar to an E-cig and use vaporization that way for pain relieve I suppose. it would be a step aswell i suppose

 

But if you want high and dont want the tar in your lungs vaporize .

 

Thats what i tell people.

[Real_PhillBert]

It does work. dont be an idiot and say it "never" works. ill agree sometimes it doesnt work but to to say it "never" works is naive and irresponsible 

Perhaps never is the wrong word, but I can provide ample evidence that narcotic legislation in the US has been largely unsuccessful. 

 

Idiots are going to be idiots regardless of what the law is. 

[Trik'Stari]

I really don't like weed, I hate being around it same with cigarettes. I hate it with a passion, I do drink but I only have one a month or when ever I feel like going out.

Alcohol is far more detrimental to your health than marijuana.

 

Alcohol literally kills brain cells. Marijuana on the other hand appears to do this

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/highdose-cannabis-stimulates-growth-of-brain-cells-in-rats-510869.html

 

Remember that the big pharma companies have every financial incentive to only develop treatments for things, and not cures. NOT THE DOCTORS OR RESEARCHERS, but the people who actually run those businesses.

[Legalizeit]

@seriouslymikey You're still brainwashed by all the bullshit propaganda and lies! Alcohol is bad to human health... So are cigarettes and even FDA approved (REAL) drugs that are arguably the leading cause of death yet all are legal.. Yet marijuana has many medicinal purposes from anxiety to depression... Helps with kids seizures, has vitamins... Shrinks tumors etc... Your misguided opinion needs to be put in check! #beinformednotignorantlyopinionated

Maybe because cannabis is a stimulant, like other drugs and is harmful to human health, causing paranoia and many other mental illnesses and issues. However, with there also being evidence on cannabis having good side effects, in truth, I don't care.

[Prastupok]

I think it should be legal, and I wouldn't even use it.

 

However, there should be caveats:

 

In order to get it, you should be able to prove employment OR medical necessity. I'm not okay with paying for people's welfare if they are out smoking the devil's lettuce.

[cluelessgenius]

so how does this work how do i get my goverment to loosen the fuck up. because i could definitly list some reasons why i need it. but i guess its not gonna happen too soon. the sun turs cold before germany loosens the law

[fruit loops are my kink]

Perhaps never is the wrong word, but I can provide ample evidence that narcotic legislation in the US has been largely unsuccessful. 

 

Idiots are going to be idiots regardless of what the law is. 

yes i agree but without any kind of law enforcement i believe a bigger amount of people would do stupid things like heroin or LSD or whatever. with law enforcement there has been minor details of some drugs given (usually the worst kinds) which help deter people

[fruit loops are my kink]

so how does this work how do i get my goverment to loosen the fuck up. because i could definitly list some reasons why i need it. but i guess its not gonna happen too soon. the sun turs cold before germany loosens the law

i suppose if you were going to try bring it to public vote then perhaps some kind of signing sheet where people who would like to bring it to public vote place their names down. if there are enough names then they kind of have to do it i think. im not sure though this is just a rough guess