LTT Official Folding Month VI

[GOTSpectrum]

Here I am bored as all hell but trying to stay awake to start getting used to the month to come 

[justpoet]

13 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Here I am bored as all hell but trying to stay awake to start getting used to the month to come 

"Let the games begin!"

[TheLANguy]

32 minutes ago, GOTSpectrum said:

Here I am bored as all hell but trying to stay awake to start getting used to the month to come 

Excited for the upcoming month too. What is the word on volunteers to help you?

[GOTSpectrum]

1 hour ago, TheLANguy said:

Excited for the upcoming month too. What is the word on volunteers to help you?

We got everyone we need, 

 

Sorry if I missed you I tried to respond to everyone 

[Gorgon]

14 hours ago, Schnoz said:

How much CPU does F@H need, and is it multithreaded? My dual 2080 Tis are happily pulling 5-6M PPD each on my 2699A V4-equipped system, but the thread that FAHControl runs on is almost always pegged at 100%. Is each GPU able to use a separate CPU thread for control?

Each GPU needs a dedicated thread under Windows for NVidia GPUs. The Nvidia CUDA driver forces the thread in use to a "Spin-wait" state that locked the thread for exculsive use by that GPU even if it isn't very busy.

 

Some GPU Projects (WUs) however have demonstrated a taste for many additional threads, possibly due to Double Precision (FP64) calculations, and folks have seen an improvement in these WUs when making sure there are several additional threads available.

 

The rule of thumb used to be one thread per GPU and a couple of threads for the OS but these days if you've got a thread limited system or are considering adding a CPU Slot, I'd recommend leaving 4 or more threads available for the OS and WUs that might require a bit more horsepower.

[JamesTheFolf]

On 10/9/2023 at 6:01 AM, NetoriusNick said:

@JamesTheFolf your folding username does not match the one you provided (JamesTheFolf) can you please check and link the Extremeoverclocking page   https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/search.php

Or confirm you have never folded ever under that name?

I've never folded under that name before, but I'm planning on folding all winter

[TylerD321]

54 minutes ago, JamesTheFolf said:

I've never folded under that name before, but I'm planning on folding all winter

Would you care to fold a singular unit so we can double check that we can see your folding account?

[GDRRiley]

Not sure how much I'm going to be able to this year but excited to see how the team does

[djksm]

looks like there are no prizes.... idk but maybe you could make a donations page so you could get some amazon gift cards?

[justpoet]

45 minutes ago, djksm said:

looks like there are no prizes.... idk but maybe you could make a donations page so you could get some amazon gift cards?

Anybody with gift cards or codes or similar to contribute can contact @GOTSpectrum and he'll get them listed.

[JamesTheFolf]

4 hours ago, TylerD321 said:

Would you care to fold a singular unit so we can double check that we can see your folding account?

Yeah I'll go and do that tomorrow

 

1 hour ago, justpoet said:

Anybody with gift cards or codes or similar to contribute can contact @GOTSpectrum and he'll get them listed.

I have an extra steam key for PC building simulator I could donate

[NetoriusNick]

10 hours ago, TylerD321 said:

Would you care to fold a singular unit so we can double check that we can see your folding account?

@JamesTheFolf Please remember that it is case sensitive and that you should setup your passkey

[dogwitch]

am debating throwing in a radeon gpu i have lying around that was a back up gpu if needed.

a 550 or 560 model i think.

 

[djksm]

8 hours ago, JamesTheFolf said:

Yeah I'll go and do that tomorrow

 

I have an extra steam key for PC building simulator I could donate

Private message @GOTSpectrum to add it to the list

[GOTSpectrum]

Thank you to @Jawa_Juice for donating five $20 Steam codes to te event 

[RollinLower]

Second 4070Ti is finally properly installed, I'm all set to fold some proteins!

[flibberdipper]

14 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

Second 4070Ti is finally properly installed, I'm all set to fold some proteins!

And here I am letting my M1 Mac Mini crank away on WUs lol

 

Surprisingly power efficient though, I don't think it's even drawing 10w more than idle somehow...

[JamesTheFolf]

4 hours ago, NetoriusNick said:

@JamesTheFolf Please remember that it is case sensitive and that you should setup your passkey

Yeah I understand, I let my PC fold a few units overnight. 

[LAR_Systems]

On 10/7/2023 at 12:20 AM, justpoet said:

@LAR_Systems, do you have a beta extension I could run to help you collect data to compare V8 vs V7 clients?

Hey @justpoet I have the most super early ALPHA work in progress here where I post my dev builds as I navigate all the "fun" with how the new client works as a from scratch re-write.  https://webclient.lar.systems/  With the way the new client works the good news is this will run in ANY BROWSER without the need for a client extension installed.

 

Currently it's close to where the basics are covered and I can move on to all the features / GUI elements etc. to bring it up to where the V7 web extension was at functionality wise.

 

That all said it's in developer "show way to much of everything" mode right now in a rather raw way so keep that in mind... and this is the build URL where I will be testing data capture as I wrap up the modifications I'm doing server side to support that.

 

Cheers,

 

[Alex Atkin UK]

35 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

Hey @justpoet I have the most super early ALPHA work in progress here where I post my dev builds as I navigate all the "fun" with how the new client works as a from scratch re-write.

 

As someone not particularly well versed in JS I had a heck of a time trying to collate information from v7 and v8 at the same time.  I also find it a lot more cumbersome than just being able to control everything from FAH Control as I have too many browser tabs/windows open as it is.

[LAR_Systems]

19 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

 

As someone not particularly well versed in JS I had a heck of a time trying to collate information from v7 and v8 at the same time.  I also find it a lot more cumbersome than just being able to control everything from FAH Control as I have too many browser tabs/windows open as it is.

The V8 client has a number of challenges to getting data out of it compared to V7... it's not for the faint of heart coding and it's why it's been a longer process than I would like to get to where I am.

 

After messing with the project they provided opensource I had to start my own scratch build for my own sanity.

[justpoet]

4 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

Hey @justpoet I have the most super early ALPHA work in progress here where I post my dev builds as I navigate all the "fun" with how the new client works as a from scratch re-write.  https://webclient.lar.systems/  With the way the new client works the good news is this will run in ANY BROWSER without the need for a client extension installed.

 

Currently it's close to where the basics are covered and I can move on to all the features / GUI elements etc. to bring it up to where the V7 web extension was at functionality wise.

 

That all said it's in developer "show way to much of everything" mode right now in a rather raw way so keep that in mind... and this is the build URL where I will be testing data capture as I wrap up the modifications I'm doing server side to support that.

As most of my working life has been as a QA Engineer...Thanks!  This will be fun to look at as it gets tinkered with!  

 

FWIW, the progress slider took a long time before populating, and the project number and other info doesn't populate, though it is showing ETA's and Frame counts.  Running in the same as prior for now, in latest Brave on up to date Linux (Mint on this atm) with shields turned off for your site.  Please consider this a most basic bug report, rather than a complaint, as I'm just happy to send you more data in the process.  It also believes I'm running on all threads (16) instead of the 8 that is actually assigned and allowed.

 

While I don't have tons of time to QA, I'm more than happy to run any debugging logging or keep a console open, etc and send things to you more directly when/if requested as you get further into things.

[Alex Atkin UK]

4 hours ago, LAR_Systems said:

The V8 client has a number of challenges to getting data out of it compared to V7... it's not for the faint of heart coding and it's why it's been a longer process than I would like to get to where I am.

 

After messing with the project they provided opensource I had to start my own scratch build for my own sanity.

I tried to learn how to handle the events gracefully, but I can't remember where I went wrong but the array would always get borked.  So I ended up simply opening and closing websockets, treating it more like v7 at the cost of more overhead and slower refreshes (I did quite like how websockets meant all information was real-time).

 

I then created a PHP script that is called for each v7 client that outputs in the same format as v8.  With the permanent web page I have open on my server collating it all together and periodically sending it back to another PHP script that writes it a tmpfs mount that is exposed to my VPS server.  Said page reloading every hour because all this janky JS ends up slowing down over time (though I think I figured that as a rogue duplication of setTimeouts so things would just run away over time).

 

So it really boils down to having the luxury to be as inefficient as I want because none of that is exposed to public servers.

 

Though there are still bugs in v8 as well, as I recall pause=true not being set when all slots are paused (or it possibly means something different to what I thought it did)

 

That said I have brushed up on a few areas in JS since I did all that, writing TamperMonkey scripts.  Trouble is you can get so much utterly wrong when learning from mere Google searches.    Though I have the luxury of only caring that it works in Firefox and it only impacting me if it hangs the browser.

[JamesTheFolf]

I'm just hoping the PPD is acurate for my system, though doesn't seem to be super accurate thus far.

 

This also gives me a good chance to do some thermal testing on my new build

[GOTSpectrum]