Graphics card for 1440p gaming?

[Kaythree]

16 hours ago, Sol_NB said:

With newer games being more VRAM hungry I’m concerned the 3070 I have is gonna be struggling in the next year or so. Should it still be a good 1440p card going forward or should I be eyeing upgrading sooner rather then later (for context I bought this GPU in November) 

Feel the same way, playing resident evil and having just 6.6 gigs of VRAM for the game is downright embarrassing on a 3070. 
I should have seen it coming but what annoys me even more now is seeing people going from a 3070 or 3080 to 4070ti or 4080 when AMDs 7000 series all have more vram. Like do they not get tired of getting ******* by nvidia???

[MATT The Geek]

as someone who daily drives a 3070 i would say it depends on a game like valorant for sure its good but try playing hogwarts legacy or really and modern story game and your gonna struggle i would recommend trying to get a 3080 as prices should be dropping as nvidia tries to clear the 30 series out for newer 40 series cards

[Sol_NB]

4 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

RT can be really cool sometimes. It's great in the Spiderman games since you spend so much time on the sides of skyscrapers loaded with reflective windows. But I turn it off most of the time unless my hardware has a boatload of headroom like say in RE8.

I think if I just don’t do RT and keep setting maybe at high I maybe will be fine with the 3070. It’s a bit pointless worrying about future issues 

[GamerDude]

IF you already have the card, then optimize game settings so that VRAM usage does not exceed the 8GB VRAM available, I'm afraid that that's all that can be done. I think HardwareUnboxed had stated, a while back, that 8GB VRAM is just not enough for newer games on the horizon. This point has been borne out by games like Hogwarts Legacy (though a patch or two did help with VRAM usage), Forspoken, RE4R.

 

I've always said nVidia has always been very tight-fisted when it comes to VRAM, even the RTX 4070 Ti that they had just released comes with just 12GB of VRAM, kinda like when they'd released the RTX 3070 Ti with just 8GB of VRAM when it's capable of much more as it IS a powerful GPU. nVidia deliberately kneecapped it by allotting just 8GB VRAM, they knew it'd not be enough as time passes by, all part of the planned early obsolescence masterplan to get nVidia fanboys to upgrade. 

 

That's why I've always maintained that AMD cards aged better, yes, there's the perceived Fine Wine tech, and there's also a generous amount of VRAM. Right now, I have two AMD cards, a 16GB and 24GB card, my 16GB RX 6900 XT would age better than the 10GB RTX 3080, even the 12GB RTX 3080 Ti....that's down to the extra VRAM that newer games are beginning to require.

[Mark Kaine]

18 hours ago, manikyath said:

i think not playing AAA titles is a big help here..

 

i think AAA doesn't mean anything in this regard,  for example my 3070 has definitely not enough vram for RE3 which is A , if not B (low cost effort) yet i can play OW or MHW just fine maxed out / 4k which at least OW is definitely AAA (i really think this is more marketing related than graphical fidelity) 

 

 

1 hour ago, GamerDude said:

AMD cards, a 16GB and 24GB

i would definitely go AMD if they would fix their driver issues,  especially regarding recording features and functions,  but i doubt it'll ever happen tbh

[Sol_NB]

11 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

i think AAA doesn't mean anything in this regard,  for example my 3070 has definitely not enough vram for RE3 which is A , if not B (low cost effort) yet i can play OW or MHW just fine maxed out / 4k which at least OW is definitely AAA (i really think this is more marketing related than graphical fidelity) 

 

 

i would definitely go AMD if they would fix their driver issues,  especially regarding recording features and functions,  but i doubt it'll ever happen tbh

How were you having VRAM issues in RE3? I have everything max at 1440p and I am only using like 5gbs if that 

[noonie94]

Tbh I’m in the same boat. I’ve been playing RDR2 on PC and I have texture on high or medium and I’m getting vram issues. Some times I regret selling my 3060 12gb for a 3070( I brought both used). Now I’m in a hard place because if I switch to a 3080 I have to get the founders edition because I only have a 650w psu (psu only have 2 pcie cables, most 3080s need 3). Or purchase a 4070ti. I feel like I should just sell my 3070 while I can get something for it you know?

[Sol_NB]

10 hours ago, noonie94 said:

Tbh I’m in the same boat. I’ve been playing RDR2 on PC and I have texture on high or medium and I’m getting vram issues. Some times I regret selling my 3060 12gb for a 3070( I brought both used). Now I’m in a hard place because if I switch to a 3080 I have to get the founders edition because I only have a 650w psu (psu only have 2 pcie cables, most 3080s need 3). Or purchase a 4070ti. I feel like I should just sell my 3070 while I can get something for it you know?

Honestly if you lower settings you might be fine. I kinda only hit limits if I do RT and like max settings 

[GamerDude]

43 minutes ago, Sol_NB said:

Honestly if you lower settings you might be fine. I kinda only hit limits if I do RT and like max settings 

But that kinda defeats the purpose of getting a powerful card like the RTX 3070/3070 Ti? Having to turn down settings NOT that the card is incapable of higher setting, but rather, having to limit one's setting because, and only because nVidia deliberately kneecapped its performance by allotting 8GB of VRAM. Sorta how RTX 3080 10GB owners are feeling as well, very powerful card but with just 10GB of VRAM.

[Sol_NB]

4 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

But that kinda defeats the purpose of getting a powerful card like the RTX 3070/3070 Ti? Having to turn down settings NOT that the card is incapable of higher setting, but rather, having to limit one's setting because, and only because nVidia deliberately kneecapped its performance by allotting 8GB of VRAM. Sorta how RTX 3080 10GB owners are feeling as well, very powerful card but with just 10GB of VRAM.

I mean, sure. But if you already have the card nothing much you can do. Also several videos have been done talking about max settings are a waste of frames 

[Sol_NB]

I currently have a Asus ROG Strix RTX 3070 OC and I’m wondering if it’s gonna still be good enough to play games at 1440p for the next few years. I’m a bit concerned about the 8GB of VRAM. I also should note that even though I have the OC version I actually don’t want to over clock. I just am using its stick settings. 

[starsmine]

Yes.

When and ONLY when you have a suite of games you are no longer happy with your performance should you look into upgrading.

(also dont get attached to ultra, there is nothing you are missing out on playing on high)

[will0hlep]

1 minute ago, starsmine said:

Yes.

When and ONLY when you have a suite of games you are no longer happy with your performance should you look into upgrading.

This

 

Don't upgrade more frequently than you need too, it's just throwing away money.

[Agall]

23 minutes ago, Sol_NB said:

I currently have a Asus ROG Strix RTX 3070 OC and I’m wondering if it’s gonna still be good enough to play games at 1440p for the next few years. I’m a bit concerned about the 8GB of VRAM. I also should note that even though I have the OC version I actually don’t want to over clock. I just am using its stick settings. 

Worst case, just run lower texture quality.

 

The OC versions just have higher boost clocks from the factory, its really not indicative of the user's intent to overclock. The SKUs built for overclocking are like the EVGA Kingpin (RIP), Galax HoF, etc. Most companies don't even make them anymore because Nvidia has locked down the cards so much in what they can min-max, part of why EVGA left the Nvidia GPU market.

 

My brother runs an RTX 3070 with 1440p UW and hasn't run into major issues. A 3070 isn't maxing out modern AAA games at 1440p anyways, so until you run into a specific scenario where the 3070 isn't enough, then I would balance whether spending the $$ is worth it to get a better experience. 

 

TLDR, its unlikely to be preventative to a modern gaming experience at 1440p, but will be limiting, but not solely because of the VRAM capacity.

[jaslion]

Upgrade when it doesn't cut it anymore. Simple as that.

Dont upgrade for a a problem you dont have.

[Sol_NB]

Yeah. Maybe I’m getting overly paranoid about the VRAM thing cause so many videos I’m seeing are saying 8GB IS not enough VRAM anymore and you need more for modern AAA games 

[BondiBlue]

6 minutes ago, Sol_NB said:

Yeah. Maybe I’m getting overly paranoid about the VRAM thing cause so many videos I’m seeing are saying 8GB IS not enough VRAM anymore and you need more for modern AAA games 

Whether or not the amount of VRAM a card has is enough for gaming is dependent on the games you play and the settings you want to play at. 1440p is not a very high resolution, so 8GB of VRAM shouldn't be a major issue unless you really want to max out all the settings. 

 

If the card meets your needs now then great, keep it. There's no point in upgrading unless there's some feature you want in a newer card or your current card doesn't meet your needs. 

[Sol_NB]

I also way over payed on this card. I got it in November and paid like 760 dollars after tax I think. But I really wanted a new GPU and didn’t want to do a 3080 because it was even more expensive at the time. Plus I used a gift card I got so in actuality I only paid about 270 dollars for it. So maybe I’m kicking myself for overpaying too. 

[Sol_NB]

I’m curious if I lowered my resolution to 1080p on my 1440p native monitor if thing will look ok. Like would I notice wearer smearing or weird downscaling in and other stuff because it’s not outputting to the native resolution? Or would it look just as good as if I played it in a native 1080p monitor? 

[Tan3l6]

Nah, 1080p looks pretty bad after scaling to 1440p.

But you could test it yourself perhaps?

 

But if you use no scaling in videocard software and play at 1080p then it just centers the video, does not scale and instead there's black area around the 1080p.

[emosun]

If you have the monitor just try it

 

You tell us if it looks good

[Inception9269]

38 minutes ago, Sol_NB said:

I’m curious if I lowered my resolution to 1080p on my 1440p native monitor if thing will look ok. Like would I notice wearer smearing or weird downscaling in and other stuff because it’s not outputting to the native resolution? Or would it look just as good as if I played it in a native 1080p monitor? 

As someone that's been using 2560x1440p since like 2016 or 17, I do notice that things look off if I try to run a game at 1080p. Not always, but it depends on the game.

 

You're better off using AMD's FSR if you play any games that support it, that or DLSS if you got an Nvidia gpu that supports it. That way you can render at a lower resolution, then upscale it to 1440p.

[Sol_NB]

10 minutes ago, Inception9269 said:

As someone that's been using 2560x1440p since like 2016 or 17, I do notice that things look off if I try to run a game at 1080p. Not always, but it depends on the game.

 

You're better off using AMD's FSR if you play any games that support it, that or DLSS if you got an Nvidia gpu that supports it. That way you can render at a lower resolution, then upscale it to 1440p.

So I’m still curious how all that works. If I want to do it that way do I still have my output resolution be 1440p? Or do you set your resolution to 1080p and if you do DLSS it does upscale 1440p? 

[Inception9269]

1 hour ago, Sol_NB said:

So I’m still curious how all that works. If I want to do it that way do I still have my output resolution be 1440p? Or do you set your resolution to 1080p and if you do DLSS it does upscale 1440p? 

You'd keep your resolution to 1440, with you enabling FSR or DLSS in games.

 

If I remember right, I think the Radeon drivers do have the option to enable FSR across the board. Also I believe Linus did a video about Nvidia having it where in the control panel you can enable AI upscaling across the board as well.

[Sol_NB]

12 hours ago, Inception9269 said:

You'd keep your resolution to 1440, with you enabling FSR or DLSS in games.

 

If I remember right, I think the Radeon drivers do have the option to enable FSR across the board. Also I believe Linus did a video about Nvidia having it where in the control panel you can enable AI upscaling across the board as well.

Ah ok. I’ll see if I see that option then. Thanks