ATX 3.0 Watchlist and Sale Links

[TechTempest]

Adding a list of Links of ATX 3.0 PSU sites:

 

Currently for sale:

 

Silverstone

• Silverstone 850w

MSI

• 1000w Gold

Gigabyte

• 1000w Gold

 

 

News:

Gigabyte

GIGABYTE GP-UD1000GM PG5 1000W PCIe 5.0 80 Plus Gold Certified Fully Modular Power Supply https://a.co/d/5bGwlk9

 

MSI

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A1000G-PCIE5

 

 

 

------Original post--------

Hey all,

 

Work has approved buying me a 4090 which will be used for renderings purposes alongside a 5950x and I really want to use a proper ATX 3.0 PSU so I don't have to deal with adapters and can use the built in data port.

 

The problem is I don't see any ATX 3.0 PSU's for sale from any seller or a manufacturer. Am I missing something?

 

Can we use this thread to post ATX 3.0 PSU's that go up for sale?

[Eigenvektor]

You're missing that is an extremely new standard?

https://www.techpowerup.com/299196/seasonic-announces-the-vertex-atx-3-0-and-pcie-5-0-ready-psu-line

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Availability:
Mid-December 2022: North America / Europe / Asia

 

[Dogzilla07]

Thermaltake GF3 is already out in EU, should be ok, but no testing yet (the 1650W model even has 2x Gen 5 16-pin plugs) Asus ROG Loki SFX-L is out next week in EU.

 

Problem is no 3rd party in the world has the capability to test ATX 3.0, PCIE Gen 5 yet. Very soon (within weeks), but not as of today.

 

(The new MSI AiP Ai1000P/Ai1300P and Corsair HXi series should also be full-spec, but not tested by 3rd party yet).

 

The only 3rd party testers will be Intel, Aris (HardwareBusters website and youtube, Techpower, Tomshardware). And Linus a bit later.

 

https://hwbusters.com/

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/HardwareBustersInternational/videos

 

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284

 

Corsair cable is available for order (out of stock), and a nicer individually sleeved in many colors is coming as well. keep in mind this cable is only for newer Corsair PSUs and some newer from other manufacturers that use Type 4 (like XPG Reactor), Best to check with Corsair or Jonnyguru which ones, so u don't burn your PSUs xD

[TechTempest]

I think maybe the play is to use the adapter cable until the ATX 3 PSUs are all fully released and then switch. 

 

My only fear is I'm running a Seasonic gold 850w which is the bare minimum for a 4090. May have to reduce the power limit for a bit.

 

Isn't an an FE card supposed to come with a 12bhpwr adapter?

[seon123]

15 hours ago, TechTempest said:

I don't have to deal with adapter

There should be new cables available that plug directly into current PSUs, without having to use an adapter, and decent PSUs should most likely be fine. 

15 hours ago, TechTempest said:

and can use the built in data port.

The four small pins on the 12+4 pin are just shorted to ground to indicate that the PSU can deliver more than the base 150W. They are not transmitting data other than that. If you are referring to data ports going from the PSU to the motherboard for software control, those exist for current PSUs, and are not required for ATX 3.0 PSUs. 

 

 

Also be aware that a PSU claiming ATX 3.0 compatibility does not mean that it's actually fully compliant, especially when it's from a more sketchy company, like Seasonic or Gigabyte. 

The highest end Seasonic Prime TX-1600 is only compliant up to 1000W, and is only rated for 1280W output at 50C. 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seasonic-prime-tx-1600-power-supply-review

 

Gigabyte's UD-GM ships with the new 12+4 pin connector, but fails shuts down when loaded to the ATX 3.0 requirements. 

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-ud1000gm-pg5-review-the-first-pcie-gen-5-compatible-psu

[TechTempest]

Thanks seon. All good info.

 

I just came across MSIs offerings although I'm not sure if ever buy an MSI PSU.

 

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MPG-A1000G-PCIE5

 

I'll be editing this post and adding links to the original 

[TechTempest]

19 hours ago, Eigenvektor said:

You're missing that is an extremely new standard?

https://www.techpowerup.com/299196/seasonic-announces-the-vertex-atx-3-0-and-pcie-5-0-ready-psu-line

 

I wasn't really looking for snark. Just trying to group up places that are selling and potentially selling for people like me to find. Thanks for stopping by. 

[Dogzilla07]

Thermaltake GF3 is out in europe (1650W unit has 2x16 pin plugs).

 

https://www.thermaltake.com/toughpower-gf3-1650w-gold-tt-premium-edition.html

Asus Rog Loki SFX-L is out in Europe in ~10days.

 

https://rog.asus.com/power-supply-units/rog-loki/rog-loki-1000p-sfx-l-gaming-model/

There's the MSI AiP series u linked

And Corsair's 16-pin type 4 cable is available for pre-order (for the new HXi series that launched recently).

 

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/PC-Components/Power-Supplies/600W-PCIe-5-0-12VHPWR-Type-4-PSU-Power-Cable/p/CP-8920284

 

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/HXi-Series-Fully-Modular-ATX-Power-Supplies/p/CP-9020215-NA

Seasonic is mid-december

 

https://seasonic.com/news/post/sea-sonic-to-launch-new-vertex/

 

FSP has two models out:

 

https://www.fsplifestyle.com/en/product/HYDROGPRO1000W_GEN5.html

 

https://www.fsplifestyle.com/en/product/HydroPTMPRO1200W_GEN5.html

 

and a 3rd budget possibly:

 

https://www.fsplifestyle.com/en/product/hexa85pluspro850w.html

 

Lian Li possibly:

 

https://lian-li.com/product/sp850/

 

and Silverstone as well possibly:

 

https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/power-supplies/HELA850RPlatinum/

[TechTempest]

Dogzilla... what a chad!

[Tan3l6]

Whatta late appearence in general though.

 

Will there be an introduction to PSU tier lists as soon as the PCIE 5.0 cards with 12+4 pin arrive?

[orate.cl]

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[TechTempest]

Seems more and more are popping up over time. If you find one that's actually for sale please post it and I'll add it to the list above.

[ewitte]

Seems so soon for the ATX power supplies barely any available for the ones that are they haven't been extensively tested.  I picked one of the best 1000w power supplies I found.  I'll probably have to use an adapter for a bit but EVGA will likely offer a cable soon.  BTW I hear a lot of the first round on the new power supplies ignores the sense pin they are not fully compliant.

[Dogzilla07]

On 9/29/2022 at 12:09 AM, ewitte said:

barely any available for the ones that are they haven't been extensively tested. 

So far only Silverstone Hela 850R and Corsair HXi 2022 series have been tested and passed Intel testing. Still waiting on different 3rd party (Aris).

 

Keep in mind this does not mean they will 100% work properly with 4090. Still need it to launch to see how exactly all the various ones behave xD

[orate.cl]

Thermaltake Toughpower GF3

[MysticLTT]

3 hours ago, orate.cl said:

Thermaltake Toughpower GF3

$450 Canadian after duties for 1300w, damn

[Nagispace]

we can't even buy them in europe yet
I hope they get released before november

 

[MysticLTT]

The MPG A1000G PCIE5 says 3.0 compatible and MEG Ai1000P PCIE5 says it's 3.0 ready. Should the MPG be avoided?

[Dogzilla07]

@MysticLTTJust wait for 3rd party reviews from Aris (TomsHardware, TechPowerup, Cybenetics)

 

ATX 3.0 requirements are not relevant for GPU behaviour.

[HumdrumPenguin]

I'm waiting for the release of the MSI MEG Ai1300P, since Corsair messed up and updated their PSU without the new GPU connector.

[Deadpool2onBlu-Ray]

35 minutes ago, HumdrumPenguin said:

I'm waiting for the release of the MSI MEG Ai1300P, since Corsair messed up and updated their PSU without the new GPU connector.

I would personally get the new Seasonic one coming out in December over the MSI one

[HumdrumPenguin]

1 hour ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

I would personally get the new Seasonic one coming out in December over the MSI one

That was my second option actually. The reason behind the MEG Ai13000P is that I'm updating my whole computer, and since today I got a 4090 SUPRIM X from MSI, I might as well splash dragons all over the other components. The MEG also comes out in October based on MSI's own twitter response to a user, which helps considering that my PSU, albeit high-end, has just enough juice for the 4090.

[MysticLTT]

My MSI MPG A1000G PCIE 5.0 from Newegg has been shipped. I've seen reports that 4090 with the top CPU doesn't pull more than 596watt from the wall.

[Ralf]

10 hours ago, HumdrumPenguin said:

I'm waiting for the release of the MSI MEG Ai1300P, since Corsair messed up and updated their PSU without the new GPU connector.

Didnt Corsair intentionally not put 12VHPWR on their HXi(2022)?

10 hours ago, CHICKSLAYA said:

I would personally get the new Seasonic one coming out in December over the MSI one

I would rather wait for the be quiet! Dark Power 13 if you don't like the MSI(which is essentially a HX1300i).

[mariushm]

You could just buy a crimping tool and make your own adapter cables ... cheaper than buying a new power supply.  Or buy a ready made adapter cable.

The high power connector is 6 12v wires, 6 ground wires ... and the 4 small wires get connected to ground to signal the cable is good for up to 600w

 

The connector is half a dollar : https://www.digikey.de/en/products/detail/amphenol-cs-fci/10161719-124GLF/15789337

The pins are around 10-20 cents each in low volume

 the bigger thicker ones :  https://www.digikey.de/en/products/detail/amphenol-icc-fci/10132447-121PLF/7590955

 the small ones : https://www.digikey.de/en/products/detail/amphenol-icc-fci/10161952-1210LF/15789385

 

SO you could easily get a a couple ready made  pci-e 8 pin female - pci-e  male extension , cut the pci-e male connector and crimp the pins to where the male connectors were.

Example of such extension is $10 : https://www.amazon.com/CableMod-ModFlex-8-pin-Extension-White/dp/B077QR27ZC/