4 display build for trading

[Indian pc builder]

Ok so now that my father has finally gotten around to contracting me to build his trading pc, I have a few questions, one how  do I get 4 or ideally 6 displays running one one pc for him to use and more stuff like which displays, where do I get a stand for this , how do I get enough video outs, etc, basically how should I do this cause I have no clue how to get multiple displays on one pc

 

 

 

edit: my bad sorry, i posted this from my phone and didnt realise that it was in the cooling section, mods pls move it to the correct subforum

[Levent]

Multiple GPUs. You can either get two graphics cards OR get a CPU with iGPU and also make use of motherboard video outputs. Once you have everything, all you do is plug the cables and do some configuration of where each monitor is on the array.

[Eigenvektor]

4 monitors should be possible with a single GPU. Most consumer GPUs are limited to four, so if you want more, you need to either use a second GPU or a CPU with an iGPU or find a GPU that allows more than four monitors simultaneously. For desktop use you don't have to worry about performance all that much. Gaming on multiple monitors requires a beefy GPU, but regular desktop use is perfectly fine on lower end GPUs.

 

For a stand, you probably want to look into monitors with a VESA mount. You should be able to find monitor arms for that. This way you can stack monitors e.g. 3x2 (three monitors next to each other, one row above another)

[Indian pc builder]

11 minutes ago, Levent said:

Multiple GPUs. You can either get two graphics cards OR get a CPU with iGPU and also make use of motherboard video outputs. Once you have everything, all you do is plug the cables and do some configuration of where each monitor is on the array.

How do I configure the multiple displays to act like their own separate desktops?

how many displays can the rx550 or a 1050 or a 3050 do, what about daisy chaining using dp 1.4, how do I configure the displays to work like that, is there some function built into windows or is there an amd and or nivida program that can help, also assume a i7 12700k for the cpu and I should have DisplayPort on the mobo as well as hdmi 

[Eigenvektor]

2 minutes ago, Indian pc builder said:

How do I configure the multiple displays to act like their own separate desktops?

Attach them to the GPU. Then configure Windows to "extend desktop" rather than mirror. Pretty sure that's actually the default when multiple monitors are attached. I don't think I had to configure anything for my two monitors on either Windows or Linux, it uses them separately by default. The only thing I had to configure was their arrangement (so that going out on the right of the left monitor goes to the monitor on the right).

 

https://www.howtogeek.com/666239/how-to-rearrange-multiple-monitors-on-windows-10/

[Levent]

Just now, Indian pc builder said:

How do I configure the multiple displays to act like their own separate desktops?

What? A user will have a desktop. 

[Indian pc builder]

Also if I connect some of the monitors to the igpu, do I have to go into the bios and enable them both or will the igp just work and windows will sort out the configuration of the Monitors ?

[Jeppes]

Have you thought of larger displays? My guess is that 4x 42" 4K displays would be enough screen space for most people.

[da na]

Something like a Quadro NVS 450

NVIDIA Quadro NVS 450 Specs | TechPowerUp GPU Database

[Indian pc builder]

10 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Have you thought of larger displays? My guess is that 4x 42" 4K displays would be enough screen space for most people.

It’s for trading so nothing more that 1080

[Jeppes]

Just now, Indian pc builder said:

It’s for trading so nothing more that 1080

I mean you dont have to use 4x 24" 1080p displays. You can show the same stuff using 4 windows in a 48" 4K tv/display. Easier to run as less cables.

[Indian pc builder]

4 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

I mean you dont have to use 4x 24" 1080p displays. You can show the same stuff using 4 windows in a 48" 4K tv/display. Easier to run as less cables.

Ideally he would want 6 in 2x3 so the to idea is a good one in case I can get him to settle for 4, speaking of which where and what stand can I find that can support 6 displays in 2x3? Is it even possible without a wall?

[Demonic Donut]

1 hour ago, Indian pc builder said:

Ideally he would want 6 in 2x3 so the to idea is a good one in case I can get him to settle for 4, speaking of which where and what stand can I find that can support 6 displays in 2x3? Is it even possible without a wall?

If he goes with a higher resolution and larger display, he'll have equal screen space and pixels vs more lower resolution screens. A 42" 4k will be pretty much the same as 4 1080p 20" displays.

[Indian pc builder]

18 hours ago, Demonic Donut said:

If he goes with a higher resolution and larger display, he'll have equal screen space and pixels vs more lower resolution screens. A 42" 4k will be pretty much the same as 4 1080p 20" displays.

stop suggesting buying a TV, am looking for computer monitors, is there a stand for 2x3 displays?

[mariushm]

Dude. 

Buying 6 1080p monitors is silly.   

 

Get 3 x 4K monitors and you have much more resolution and easier to arrange the screens.

Or look at the 34-49"  ultra wide slightly curved monitors .. you have 5120 x 1440-2160 resolution and you can stack one on top of the other for a big 5120 x 2880-4320 

 

I suspect you want 6 screens because you want to "maximize" windows on each screen or snap some windows to particular monitors. There are software tools which allow you to arrange a large resolution screen (ex a 8K panel) into such smaller regions as if you're dealing with multiple monitors. If you don't like software solutions, there's lots of monitors (mostly in the higher end)  that have  Picture in Picture feature where you can basically split the screen in half  and have two video inputs be shown, half on each side of the monitor.

 

 

 

 

 

[TVwazhere]

2 hours ago, Indian pc builder said:

is there a stand for 2x3 displays?

Six mount monitor stands do exist, however I haven been unable to find any in Amazon.in, only the US version.

https://www.amazon.com/VIVO-Monitor-Adjustable-Screens-STAND-V006F/dp/B00FPT52JU/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=6+monitor+stand&qid=1649083686&sr=8-3

 

One option you could use instead is two triple monitor mounts that are wall mounted rather than desk mounted (or one desk, one wall) (again, no results on amazon.in)

[xg32]

i'd probably use 2 uw+1 4k for this setup, or something similar, i sure don't want anything to do with 1080p and trading, not enough space for anything, not even charts or quotes.

[Indian pc builder]

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

Dude. 

Buying 6 1080p monitors is silly.   

 

Get 3 x 4K monitors and you have much more resolution and easier to arrange the screens.

Or look at the 34-49"  ultra wide slightly curved monitors .. you have 5120 x 1440-2160 resolution and you can stack one on top of the other for a big 5120 x 2880-4320 

 

I suspect you want 6 screens because you want to "maximize" windows on each screen or snap some windows to particular monitors. There are software tools which allow you to arrange a large resolution screen (ex a 8K panel) into such smaller regions as if you're dealing with multiple monitors. If you don't like software solutions, there's lots of monitors (mostly in the higher end)  that have  Picture in Picture feature where you can basically split the screen in half  and have two video inputs be shown, half on each side of the monitor.

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting so you are saying that I get 2 ultra wide displays and stack them so I have 6 displays and use power toys to get them looking like 3 displays on one panel?

 

btw want to add that the whole point of this thread is to maximise screen real estate and not resolution because it’s easier to read a full screen windows on a 1080p display than it is on one quarter of a similarly sided 4k

[Indian pc builder]

Addition: after some measurements, my dads office can only fit 4 displays in it practically without building a wall for them to mount to so I think the only way we do this is a 4 display stand with 4 1080p or if I can get him to, a 40 inch Tv or display that is not ultra wide and then using 4k to get it working about the same 

[mariushm]

1 hour ago, Indian pc builder said:

 

btw want to add that the whole point of this thread is to maximise screen real estate and not resolution because it’s easier to read a full screen windows on a 1080p display than it is on one quarter of a similarly sided 4k

If readability is your concern then you have to pay attention to the pixel size of the monitor, not the resolution.

Let's say you like 1080p on a 24" monitor but on 27" you think 1080p everything looks too big.

Well, typical values:

 

21.5" 1080p monitor the pixel size is 0.248 mm

23.8" 1080p monitor the pixel size is 0.2745 mm  

27" 1080p monitor the pixel size is 0.311 mm

 

28" 4K : 0.1617 mm

31.5" 4K : 0.1816 mm

42.5" 4K : 0.2451 mm   (ex dell ultrasharp U4320Q)

 

34" 3440 x 1440 : 0.233 mm

 

So ... if you like how windows look and how big text is on a 21.5-22" 1080p monitor with its 0.248mm pixels, then you could replace 4 such monitors with a single 42.5" 4K monitor because the pixel size would be the same. 

OR, you could get 3440 x 1440 monitor and replace TWO 1080p monitors with 1, each "virtual monitor" would be 1720 x 1440 , just a big narrower than 1920x1080, but taller.

 

last but not least... there's also SCALING in Windows, you could get a 31.5" 4K monitor and simply set text scaling in Windows to 150% and the text would look just like on a 24" monitor  ... 0.1816 x  1.5 = 0.2724 mm  - vs 0.2745mm for the 23.8" monitors.

 

[Indian pc builder]

On 4/4/2022 at 11:42 PM, mariushm said:

If readability is your concern then you have to pay attention to the pixel size of the monitor, not the resolution.

Let's say you like 1080p on a 24" monitor but on 27" you think 1080p everything looks too big.

Well, typical values:

 

21.5" 1080p monitor the pixel size is 0.248 mm

23.8" 1080p monitor the pixel size is 0.2745 mm  

27" 1080p monitor the pixel size is 0.311 mm

 

28" 4K : 0.1617 mm

31.5" 4K : 0.1816 mm

42.5" 4K : 0.2451 mm   (ex dell ultrasharp U4320Q)

 

34" 3440 x 1440 : 0.233 mm

 

So ... if you like how windows look and how big text is on a 21.5-22" 1080p monitor with its 0.248mm pixels, then you could replace 4 such monitors with a single 42.5" 4K monitor because the pixel size would be the same. 

OR, you could get 3440 x 1440 monitor and replace TWO 1080p monitors with 1, each "virtual monitor" would be 1720 x 1440 , just a big narrower than 1920x1080, but taller.

 

last but not least... there's also SCALING in Windows, you could get a 31.5" 4K monitor and simply set text scaling in Windows to 150% and the text would look just like on a 24" monitor  ... 0.1816 x  1.5 = 0.2724 mm  - vs 0.2745mm for the 23.8" monitors.

 

I don’t get uthe part about the 1440 monitors would it need to be an ultra wide? Could you suggest a monitor model?

 

 

edit: from what I have seen so far it looks like my 2 most realistic options are either 4 daisychained 1080p monitors running of the igpu, or a discrete gpu like the quadro suggested, or a 42 ish inch 4K monitor which runs one display and uses fancy zones to have 4 windows snap into place on one monitor, 

Which one?

[Indian pc builder]

ok so i need the cheapest gpu that can support 4 displays, it need to support either hdmi or displayport or both, as long as it is not dvi or vga, amd or nvidia idk, and it need to be the cheapest one that works well, note i am in india, so take that in to consideration, also note i have a guy at my local electronic component wholesale market who can get me sutff, but for now i would suggest just telling msrp's or say amazon links that can ship to India and don't charge a lot for shipping/ are free with prime. idk if its a gaming card or if its an old quadro, as long as it isn't so old that it costs a bunch of money as it is the only card of that kind, its fine

also aren't gt 710 worse than intel igpu's? 

note: the pc has a 12400, and the mobo has 1 each of hdmi and dp, is it possible to bget a splitter or like displayport daisy chain 4 displays usind the displayport, i know the igp on the chip supports 4 displays, so if there is any way i can get it to work do tell

[IkeaGnome]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce-Graphics-Single-Slot-Passive/dp/B08DS13LLZ

Some GT710s had 4 HDMI out.

[Levent]

This topic again.

4x1080p = 4K. You cannot get away with just buying the cheapest, if you plan on doing any sort of GPU accelerated workload (meaning even watching a video).

[Indian pc builder]

1 minute ago, Levent said:

This topic again.

4x1080p = 4K. You cannot get away with just buying the cheapest, if you plan on doing any sort of GPU accelerated workload (meaning even watching a video).

that is most likely what i'll do but my dad wants me to flesh out this option as well to see which one is cheaper