Stolen EVGA GeForce RTX 30 Graphics Cards Found & Being Sold By Vietnamese Retailer

[CommanderAlex]

1 minute ago, leadeater said:

Nope that's not how global logistics of PC parts happens, to buy direct you have to be HUGE! Like Amazon and Newegg huge. Otherwise PC stores buy through distributors. A very common one, at least in many parts of the world, is Ingram Micro.

Hence I said, "I would think you..." in that comment. 

[leadeater]

5 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

Hence I said, "I would think you..." in that comment. 

Yea no worries, I have direct experience in this area so that how I know about it. There's a few others I've dealt with but I'm brain blanking right now and the others I can remember are local NZ only so worthless to mention.

 

If it all checks out and they did everything by the book then they just need to work with EVGA and their insurance company and they'll be reimbursed for the product and the product can be returned to EVGA for inspection and probably re-serialization and distributed again.

[Spotty]

15 minutes ago, thanhduc said:

one of our retailers have imported bulks of evga rtx cards and it was stolen

Threads merged. There was already a thread discussing this in the Tech News section and it's better to keep discussion to one thread.

[TetraSky]

Well, it's nice to know the GPUs ended up that far away. Goes the show the robbers weren't some small time thieves and was probably part of some organized crime. Too bad EVGA can't physically disable the cards when they go online and get drivers, only refuse to honor warranty on them.

 

31 minutes ago, adarw said:

why are you sorry for something you didnt do?

For the same reason our political leaders issue apologies and pardons for stuff that happened way before any of us were even alive or before they themselves were in power. Like Scotland about to be pardoning witches executed hundreds of years ago.

Because someone, somewhere, demanded an apology.

While we're smart enough here to know it's not some random Vietnamese citizen who is responsible for the theft of these cards, I'm sure there's someone out there who didn't get to buy a GPU and will blame every Vietnamese they see for it. We just have to see the increase in racism we saw toward Asians people at the start of Covid as proof of this. Unrelated people being blamed for something they didn't do, purely by association.

 

Also maybe they are like us Canadians, saying sorry all the time even when it's not our fault. Like you're the one who bumps into us and we're the ones saying sorry for some reason.

[dizmo]

Bullshit, the store definitely has a huge piece of responsibility in this, and frankly I'd be shocked if they didn't know they were stolen. 

 

EVGA provides 3 years of warranty on their cards in Vietnam. The company is saying they have a one month warranty? Right. 

[Moonzy]

12 hours ago, dizmo said:

The company is saying they have a one month warranty?

Perhaps they meant the in-store warranty

 

In my country, my stores will have their own in-store warranty where if there's anything wrong within that period they'll handle it, instead of you having to deal with EVGA or whatever brand that it is

 

But yea, I doubt they didn't at least suspect something when the cards didn't come from distributors, unless if they did then the issue is further up in the chain

[MageTank]

15 hours ago, dizmo said:

Bullshit, the store definitely has a huge piece of responsibility in this, and frankly I'd be shocked if they didn't know they were stolen. 

 

EVGA provides 3 years of warranty on their cards in Vietnam. The company is saying they have a one month warranty? Right. 

Again, there is some benefit of the doubt depending on how the seller of the fraudulent cards presented themselves and the product. If they presented themselves as a distributor of these products, then the retailer should have paperwork showing dealing with whomever sold these goods to them. If they paid cash under the table, then yeah... It would definitely be sketchy.

 

Let me ask you this. If Newegg purchases a large shipment of GPU's from a distributor like Ingram Micro, and it turned out that some of the cards sold by Ingram Micro were fraud (extremely unlikely to ever happen, just setting up a point here), would Newegg be held accountable for buying from a distributor that presented themselves as such? You can argue that its on them to do their due diligence to vet the distributor, but again, retailers are rushing for product because you have entitled consumers blaming them for a shortage, lol. They simply can't win at the moment.

 

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, this retailers best chance at defending themselves is to provide their receipts or bill of ladings to authorities and let them track the cards as they exchanged hands. If they don't have records of the sale or transfer of inventory, then they are rightfully screwed for ignoring basic business practices when managing inventory and deserve to suffer the consequences of their ignorance.

[spartaman64]

sure "found"

[Brooksie359]

On 1/10/2022 at 7:48 AM, StDragon said:

See, this is where blockchain technology can be used to trace the entire supply chain as being legit or not. Ditto for pirated products made on a ghost shift.

But they already had the serial numbers showing they were illegitimate otherwise there wouldn't be this story to begin with. 

[Kisai]

On 1/13/2022 at 11:08 AM, Brooksie359 said:

But they already had the serial numbers showing they were illegitimate otherwise there wouldn't be this story to begin with. 

No no. If Blockchain was being used to track things, the second those cards were stolen, they would have been found before they ever got on a ship back to asia. Because whoever was willing to buy them, wasn't checking, or didn't care where they came from, and would have just as as soon as sold counterfeit/remarked cards if they were available.

 

[dizmo]

6 hours ago, Moonzy said:

Perhaps they meant the in-store warranty

 

In my country, my stores will have their own in-store warranty where if there's anything wrong within that period they'll handle it, instead of you having to deal with EVGA or whatever brand that it is

 

But yea, I doubt they didn't at least suspect something when the cards didn't come from distributors, unless if they did then the issue is further up in the chain

I think they would have mentioned it as such if that's what it was. Most stores offer that here as well, but it's never really mentioned when talking about a products warranty.

2 hours ago, MageTank said:

Again, there is some benefit of the doubt depending on how the seller of the fraudulent cards presented themselves and the product. If they presented themselves as a distributor of these products, then the retailer should have paperwork showing dealing with whomever sold these goods to them. If they paid cash under the table, then yeah... It would definitely be sketchy.

 

Let me ask you this. If Newegg purchases a large shipment of GPU's from a distributor like Ingram Micro, and it turned out that some of the cards sold by Ingram Micro were fraud (extremely unlikely to ever happen, just setting up a point here), would Newegg be held accountable for buying from a distributor that presented themselves as such? You can argue that its on them to do their due diligence to vet the distributor, but again, retailers are rushing for product because you have entitled consumers blaming them for a shortage, lol. They simply can't win at the moment.

 

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, this retailers best chance at defending themselves is to provide their receipts or bill of ladings to authorities and let them track the cards as they exchanged hands. If they don't have records of the sale or transfer of inventory, then they are rightfully screwed for ignoring basic business practices when managing inventory and deserve to suffer the consequences of their ignorance.

If said distributor was saying that the cards didn't have the full warranty that the manufacturer provides, then yes, absolutely they are at fault as that's a pretty clear sign that things aren't exactly on the level.