GN confirms RTX 2060 12GB, not official yet

[adarw]

Summary

GN has had a system integrator (a system integrator is like ibuypower, they build pcs with consumer products.) confirm that the 2060 12 gb will be a real thing. 

 

Quotes

Quote

happening so we had a source tell us recently one of the system integrators was talking with us and noted that the rtx 2060 is in fact coming back uh and uh it's coming back in a weird skew it's coming back with a 12 gigabyte model from what we understand now our immediate response to 12 gigabytes wassimply why why why can it how is is an rtx 2060ever going to use 12 gigabytes at least reasonably and in what it's targeted at which is gaming the answer is probably not really it might show up that way in task manager or gpu-z but that's going to be an issue of allocation rather than utilization and so 12 gigabytes is sort of wasted here but our thinking of why this is happening if nvidia does in fact end up going through with this decision to make a 20 60 12 gigabyte is probably nvidia needs to it may one recognize that there's an opening in the market for more gpus especially of this caliber

 

 

My thoughts

since its not officially released, this is still a rumour, but if its real, i dont see why a 2060 having 12 gb would be useful as Stephen said. the video had a bunch of tech news not on the forums if you want to watch (feel free to delete this or put it off topic mods if you think that it isnt news)

 

Sources

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKzmdMuqimQ

https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3672-hw-news-nvidia-2060-revived-12gb-steam-deck-delay

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, adarw said:

i dont see why a 2060 having 12 gb would be useful as Stephen said.

I suppose he just meant there will be more GPU supply if older fabs can also contribute

[adarw]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I suppose he just meant there will be more GPU supply if older fabs can also contribute

yes, but like there is no reason to put 12gb of ram on it.

[emosun]

the 2060 can address 12gb of vram provided it's loaded as geometry and texture data , it wouldnt have a problem then.

its once you start adding all the vfx bs that it becomes useless.

[mariushm]

It could be just a matter of cost ...  it's a 192 bit card, so it needs to use 6 chips of memory if they want to keep 192 bit bus... 

 

Maybe these days 2 GB chips are cheaper bought in volume, or maybe they still have some excess GDDR6 because they moved to GDDR6X ... so it may make no sense going with 1 GB chips. 

Maybe those 2 GB chips can be sourced from multiple sources (hynix, micron, samsung, elpida etc) in the same footprint compared to 1 GB chips... 

 

Maybe it's a case of using 16 wide chips like that 1080p targeted AMD card uses, making it possible to use less memory chips and cut costs. 

 

 

[emosun]

15 minutes ago, mariushm said:

It could be just a matter of cost ...  it's a 192 bit card, so it needs to use 6 chips of memory if they want to keep 192 bit bus... 

 

Maybe these days 2 GB chips are cheaper bought in volume, or maybe they still have some excess GDDR6 because they moved to GDDR6X ... so it may make no sense going with 1 GB chips. 

Maybe those 2 GB chips can be sourced from multiple sources (hynix, micron, samsung, elpida etc) in the same footprint compared to 1 GB chips... 

 

Maybe it's a case of using 16 wide chips like that 1080p targeted AMD card uses, making it possible to use less memory chips and cut costs. 

 

 

I bet not only is it easier to get 2gb chips but also that the design doesn't allow for a smaller amount of vram. Like the 2060 silicon they are producing may not actually be compatible with a smaller amount of ram.

Although it really does feel like they are making it 12gb to give it perceived value due to it being just a terrible gpu. just putting some frosting on day old donuts

[SADS]

Yep, sounds like a great way to put a 12gb sticker onto a spec sheet and charge todays prices for yesterdays technology.

[GreatnessRD]

I am terrified to know what the price of this is going to be. People are already using too much fentanyl buying GPUs like the 3060 non Ti for $600 and up, lol. I also wonder if this version will be the OG 2060 or the KO version? (KO had a higher boost clock, right?) 

[Video Beagle]

NVDIA's iray renderer loads evertying into VRAM and then renders. IF it can't, it loads _nothing_ into vram and uses system ram.  (At least this was the case a couple of years ago... I burnt myself out and have only just started crawling back into my 3D art tech, and I haven't seen if it does better yet).....Speed/power of the card is actually a bit secondary to capacity. (Like if I was shopping now, I could well go for higher VRAM with slower speed rather than the reverse).

[Inkz]

Confirmed not official is a super interesting title. 

[adarw]

Just now, Inkz said:

Confirmed not official is a super interesting title. 

confirmed by a reputable source, officially confirmed by nivida, no.

[porina]

Didn't nvidia say something like 8GB is their minimum standard for gaming GPUs? Hence the 12GB 3060. Same could be argued for the 2060. 6GB might be "enough" when 2060 came out, but we are nearly 3 years from that. Top titles might benefit more from the increase. 

 

A 2060 would roughly take the place of a desktop 3050, which as far as I'm aware is still not on the radar. Nvidia may keep Samsung capacity on 3060 and above, and leave the low end to older generation.

[Skiiwee29]

Its going to have to do with the bus width of the memory interface is the reason. I forget the exact calculations, but its also why the like the 3060 has 12gb of VRAM as well. 

[CTR640]

9 hours ago, GreatnessRD said:

I am terrified to know what the price of this is going to be. People are already using too much fentanyl buying GPUs like the 3060 non Ti for $600 and up, lol. I also wonder if this version will be the OG 2060 or the KO version? (KO had a higher boost clock, right?) 

Fentanyl+methamphetamine = a dragon in your kitchen just shat a whole new RTX3080Ti 31.3GB VRAM.

[WhitetailAni]

Could you tweak the title to say something like "GN confirms RTX 2060 12GB, not official yet"? The "RTX 2060 12GB GN confirms not official" makes it sound like the 2060 12GB isn't a thing.

[adarw]

20 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Could you tweak the title to say something like "GN confirms RTX 2060 12GB, not official yet"? The "RTX 2060 12GB GN confirms not official" makes it sound like the 2060 12GB isn't a thing.

updated.

[leadeater]

34 minutes ago, James Evens said:

KO had a different die.

2060: TU104

2060 KO: TU106 (aka. 2080)

Flip those around, smaller number = bigger die = higher end SKU (normally)

[adarw]

50 minutes ago, James Evens said:

2060: TU104

 

no thats a plane:  

 

/s

[ouroesa]

16 hours ago, adarw said:

wassimply why why why can it how is is an rtx 2060ever

Wow, such spellcheck and appropriate grammar. 

[adarw]

3 minutes ago, ouroesa said:

Wow, such spellcheck and appropriate grammar. 

i used the transcript so error is expected, i really didnt want to spell check it honestly.

[Vishera]

In my opinion the 12GB is there just for the excuse of why the price is ridiculously high.

[RejZoR]

If they make a card that's using last year components so miners grabbing them don't choke the supply of new graphic cards it would be nice. Question is just how useful are these for them. Can only think miners when card of this class has so much VRAM. Coz it can't possibly need it for games when RTX 3080 does just fine with only 10GB and it's entirely different generation and class of a card...

[Blue4130]

12 hours ago, adarw said:

updated.

Or just get rid of the word confirmed. That can only be done by Nvidia. This is speculation and rumor. GN has confirmed nothing. 

[porina]

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Can only think miners when card of this class has so much VRAM. 

Ethereum mining is fine with 6GB. Looked it up and it is estimated 6GB would be fine to 2024, and it'll likely go POS before then so it wont even hit that limit. I don't know if there are other minor coins that really need more, but hard to imagine it being more profitable than ethereum if it does exist.

 

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Coz it can't possibly need it for games when RTX 3080 does just fine with only 10GB and it's entirely different generation and class of a card...

I think the best way to look at it is you have enough or not enough vram for you needs. Once you have enough, more doesn't help, unless you're in AMD's marketing.

 

Is 6GB "enough" for games of today as opposed to games when the 2060 first came out? Again look at the 3060 12GB argument. nvidia said something along the lines they considered 8GB to be the minimum for modern gaming, and due to memory interface that meant they had to fit 12GB. The same argument may apply here.

 

2060 performance is fine for 1440p, and it may allow users to use better textures than previously. 

[suicidalfranco]

2 hours ago, RejZoR said:

If they make a card that's using last year components so miners grabbing them don't choke the supply of new graphic cards it would be nice. Question is just how useful are these for them. Can only think miners when card of this class has so much VRAM. Coz it can't possibly need it for games when RTX 3080 does just fine with only 10GB and it's entirely different generation and class of a card...

A 2060 is still a good mining card. I'd proly buy one