Thread for Linus Tech Tips Video Suggestions

[Fulkaffe]

Just dont let Linus touch it

https://www.cerebras.net

[Kanna]

I don't have money to test it would do it but I'm to poor

[PiberiusWilde]

Looks like a system for mainframe duty

[PeachGr]

It seems like a single piece of wayfer. I ve seen it a few days ago and that brings more questions than answers. How do the use it architecturally, how do they cool it, how it comunicates, in what board you use it etc etc

[PeachGr]

1 minute ago, PiberiusWilde said:

Looks like a system for mainframe duty

They said ai deep learning and things, I thought it was a GPU task till now. I guess a chip is a chip

[akio123008]

3 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

I thought it was a GPU task till now. I guess a chip is a chip

Well in a sense like with bitcoin mining, it's a GPU task until someone makes something that can do it even better than a GPU.

[PiberiusWilde]

5 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

They said ai deep learning and things, I thought it was a GPU task till now. I guess a chip is a chip

I'm just guessing here. Don't much about server stuff

[PeachGr]

2 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

Well in a sense like with bitcoin mining, it's a GPU task until someone makes something that can do it even better than a GPU.

As it is always right? In 10 years that obsolete chip won't even game

[akio123008]

Just now, PiberiusWilde said:

I'm just guessing here. Don't much about server stuff

Well a "mainframe" is something rather specific, it's not just a name for some rack mounted server. E.g the LMG server room isn't a mainframe. 

[Fulkaffe]

Would love to see Linus test doom and cinebench on this .

 

..and then drop it

[Vishera]

That system seems like a bad idea,chips at that size have very low yields and are very hot - consuming a lot of power.

[Vishera]

43 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

In 10 years that obsolete chip won't even game

Tell that to the 2600K and the HD 7970,those legendary chips can still game (even RDR 2 !).

[Master Disaster]

Even if Linus got his hands on one he still wouldn't be able to test it in any meaningful way. These types of system need a specific workload and its up to the user to tell the system what to do, its not like you can just run Windows on it.

 

It will probably run some incredibly obscure *nix kernel and would rely on terminals/nodes to feed it instructions. Its essentially an INCREDIBLY fast calculator (I realise that's what all CPUs are).

 

1 hour ago, PeachGr said:

It seems like a single piece of wayfer. I ve seen it a few days ago and that brings more questions than answers. How do the use it architecturally, how do they cool it, how it comunicates, in what board you use it etc etc

It says right on the page, its a cluster node. Essentially it plugs into an existing system and acts as a number cruncher. You could have 20 of them clustered together with a mainframe controlling them all. As for cooling, the places that use this kind of thing will have temp controlled server rooms.

 

1 hour ago, PeachGr said:

They said ai deep learning and things, I thought it was a GPU task till now. I guess a chip is a chip

Since its function is a node in a cluster it doesn't need anything more than very basic CPU functions. All it has to do is boot the kernel, connect to the cluster and understand the instructions. It will run VERY proprietary software and in most cases the application feeding it the instructions will be written from scratch for the specific tasks the team wants it do perform.

 

1 hour ago, akio123008 said:

Well a "mainframe" is something rather specific, it's not just a name for some rack mounted server. E.g the LMG server room isn't a mainframe. 

The type of place running these will have mainframes controlling the network.

 

1 hour ago, PeachGr said:

As it is always right? In 10 years that obsolete chip won't even game

It won't game right now, it was never intended to game.

 

25 minutes ago, Vishera said:

That system seems like a bad idea,chips at that size have very low yields and are very hot - consuming a lot of power.

Climate controlled server rooms in universities or private corporations, the type of place that doesn't care how much it costs to run them.

[PeachGr]

8 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Tell that to the 2600K and the HD 7970,those legendary chips can still game (even RDR 2 !).

My brother is really happy on my old PC with the 4790k. But you know, tech enthusiasts don't appreciate old tech

[Mark Kaine]

18 minutes ago, Vishera said:

That system seems like a bad idea,chips at that size have very low yields and are very hot - consuming a lot of power.

it says max power draw 20kw so yeah................. 

[PeachGr]

19 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

Even if Linus got his hands on one he still wouldn't be able to test it in any meaningful way. These types of system need a specific workload and its up to the user to tell the system what to do, its not like you can just run Windows on it.

 

It will probably run some incredibly obscure *nix kernel and would rely on terminals/nodes to feed it instructions. Its essentially an INCREDIBLY fast calculator (I realise that's what all CPUs are)..

 

It won't game right now, it wa never intended to game.

Ok look. Some things we say are for a joke purpose, but Linus sometimes can get away from consumer products, like one more 3080 or ryzen 7 performance, and instead show us something informative. But I don't blame him if he wants to have more views. Specific workloads on a video, attracts specific kind of viewers, an average fps/fanboy will close the video in the first minute of informative video. Remember the Asus mother ship video on the headquarters of the company, a really interesting one

[Vishera]

20 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

it says max power draw 20kw so yeah................. 

How will Linus power that?,I suspect the wiring in the neighborhood and building won't be able to handle that.

And how Linus will cool that?,Linus will need a lot of LN2 for this.

That's not practical at all.

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, valdyrgramr said:

Well, they go in a data center...

No, Linus will be playing CSGO at lowest settings with 3 gazillion FPS, that's the whole point of this proposal!

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

How will Linus power that?,I suspect the wiring in the neighborhood and building won't be able to handle that.

And how Linus will cool that?,Linus will need a lot of LN2 for this.

That's not practical at all.

yeah, I know, I was just saying

 

PS: I did find a proper power supply for this endeavor though, I guess...? 

https://apelectric.com/generac-70391-20kw-guardian-generator-with-wi-fi-200a-se-transfer-switch/

 

[Vishera]

1 hour ago, Mark Kaine said:

No, Linus will be playing CSGO at lowest settings with 3 gazillion FPS, that's the whole point of this proposal!

yeah, I know, I was just saying

 

PS: I did find a proper power supply for this endeavor though, I guess...? 

https://apelectric.com/generac-70391-20kw-guardian-generator-with-wi-fi-200a-se-transfer-switch/

 

200A?!,The wiring in my house is only rated for 50A

[zeusthemoose]

5 hours ago, nessguy said:

but if someone could point me to a site that stored a more comprehensive list that would be awesome.

Take a look at these lists. I have not gone too in-depth with them but them seem to have accurate cinebench results for pretty much every cpu. Please dont use Userbenchmark.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_single_core-9

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_multi_core-10

[Manimac]

Hi.

 

Have you tested the AmigaONE X5000 (quite expensive) and tested it against a Mac with PPC cpu with MorphOS?

AmigaONE X5000 https://www.amiga-shop.net/Amiga-Hardware/Neue-Amiga-Computer/AmigaONE-X5000-Komplettsystem::790.html

vs PowerMac7,3 (A1047)  with https://www.morphos-team.net/

[nessguy]

5 hours ago, zeusthemoose said:

Take a look at these lists. I have not gone too in-depth with them but them seem to have accurate cinebench results for pretty much every cpu. Please dont use Userbenchmark.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_single_core-9

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu_benchmark-cinebench_r20_multi_core-10

Thank you! This is a legitimate alternative and exactly the type of thing I was looking for. I'd just like for alternatives like this to be shown off and recommended rather than 'watch reviews'.

[Kevin2]

You've seen laptops with three screens but have you seen a laptop with not 3, NOT 5, BUT SEVEN. SCREENS. Of course you haven't! But you have definitely seen one of one of our sponsor segues before...

This is the Aurora 7, not made by Alienware but made by a company called Expanscape https://expanscape.com/

 

[Manimac]

IDE to Serial ATA SATA 3.5" HDD Adapter Convertor Parallel To Serial Hard Drive SATA IDE adapter

On Aliexpress they sell these, but are they any good? Like getting a SATA-HDD in a modded original Xbox, or DIY mediasenter with an old motherboard etc. What read/write speeds can you expect to get.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000253283507.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.21d9123fnxcJFy&algo_pvid=fab3e2b1-e751-47df-8609-1c9e3a0b1539&algo_expid=fab3e2b1-e751-47df-8609-1c9e3a0b1539-18&btsid=0bb0623a16062530416677525e437b&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

[igormp]

14 hours ago, PiberiusWilde said:

Looks like a system for mainframe duty

I guess it lacks enough redundancy and IO throughput features to be used as one.

 

14 hours ago, PeachGr said:

They said ai deep learning and things, I thought it was a GPU task till now. I guess a chip is a chip

Anything that can multiply matrices can be used for DL. We also have had TPUs for quite some time and those are blazing fast. FPGAs are also used sometimes.