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US Considering Banning TikTok

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10 minutes ago, Statik said:

I think it goes cheaper than that, and their intent behind it. China bans pretty much every non-state ran platform, in an attempt to essentially keep their population from reaching their outside world, so they have total control and domination over their population.

 

Where as the idea of banning malicious apps like Tic Tok is purely to stop powerhouses like China.

They're not state ran they're ran by companies. Completely independent companies free to make whatever decisions they want. All hail the Chinese government

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2 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

They're not state ran they're ran by companies. Completely independent companies free to make whatever decisions they want. All hail the Chinese government

Ah, yes. "Free", "independent", "self-deciding" all the words the CCP allows them to describe themselves with.

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18 minutes ago, williamcll said:

You might not like having imageboards everywhere

actually, i wouldn't mind that

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The government is doing things for PR now instead of actual benefit to their citizens. You have the uneducated going CHINA BAD THANK YOU US GOVERNMENT. Yet ZuccZucc continues to experiment on suicidal teenagers with no repercussions and google sells your data to China. Hypocrisy is the perfect word

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6 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

The government is doing things for PR now instead of actual benefit to their citizens. You have the uneducated going CHINA BAD THANK YOU US GOVERNMENT. Yet ZuccZucc continues to experiment on suicidal teenagers with no repercussions and google sells your data to China. Hypocrisy is the perfect word

That's the worst part IMO, Unfortunately it comes down to politics (which is dreaded here so lets not get into it). But at the end of the day you're right. It's all PR, and what benefits who the most, not what's best for the cause.

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Nice. No point in letting our enemy data mine our citizens. 

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Hopefully one less social app to worry about downloading through peer pressure.

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Just read a thing that said tik tok was Hong Kong based and may be leaving due to them feeling the new legislation has problems.  Might change this one

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7 hours ago, Spotty said:

Meh. Let people use the app if they want. Free market and all that.

"Free market" isn't the same as, and in fact is contrary to, anarchy. What we understand for "free market" a.k.a. competitive market, with efficient resource allocation, etc., is derived from a series of conditions, including "perfect information" and proper assignment of property rights (which, among other things, exclude externalities - every benefit and cost derived from a choice should be internalized by the relevant decision makers).

That makes points like

7 hours ago, Spotty said:

There's absolutely no reason to ever use TikTok so if anyone does choose to use it then they can sign away their soul data to whoever they want.

moot, since it implicitly assumes a conscious and informed decision by equally capable parties, with no additional social benefit/cost imposed to others by individual choices, etc.

 

This is just a side note, regardless of whether TikTok in particular presents a problem, and if so, whether banning it is the solution to that problem. I just wanted to clarify the "free market = unregulated market" misconception - at the end of the day, private property itself is a form of regulation ;) 

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What an opportunity for all the US companies. I wonder if they are in the process right now of thinking up names for their own branded replacement for it? 😆

 

 

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Meh, even if it happens it will just be repealed in a few months. Have your fun while you can, Pompeo.

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7 hours ago, Spotty said:

Meh. Let people use the app if they want. Free market and all that. If you ban TikTok it would just create a vacuum that would be filled by another useless app. There's absolutely no reason to ever use TikTok so if anyone does choose to use it then they can sign away their soul data to whoever they want.

free markets are cool and all except when they involve international companies, then things have to be weighted we shouldn't buy nazi's products even if they are cheaper

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So do they only ban the app or also delete every user account that was made in the US ? Because I can guarantee you that there's going to be lots of national outcry from all the wanna be uwus, Starbucks slurping, McDonalds Deepthroating, wanna save the turtles but still buys everything separate in Plastic bags, painting on Light Switches, Nintendo Switches and Smartphone Chargers, fixing everything with ramen noodles fucking Teenagers. (aka that's how you identify your average white girl)

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4 hours ago, Statik said:

While on one hand I completely agree with the sentiment of "free country, do as you wish", and people should be able to choose the apps/programs they want to use, but on the other hand, do you think that level of freedom should still take prescience, and no action should be taken when companies with direct ties to malicious, communist governments, are manipulating and taking advantage of millions of people, including millions of children?

 

I'm personally a firm believer that burying malicious intent in 5000 pages of a "terms of service" is a bullshit tactic, because 99% of users have no ability or time to read that in the first place. It's purely there to take advantage of readers, and ontop of that the majority of the time, the real things they're doing aren't even stated in the TOS.

 

 

So you think that because you're bored, the Chinese Communist Party should be allowed to harvest incredible amounts of information on you, and millions of other people (who have no idea, including children), and you should lose all rights to that information, allowing them to do with it whatever they please? Imo that ideology perfectly encapsulated how the majority of the current generation is so naive to believe that since something isn't directly ruining their life at that very second, there's nothing wrong with it and they don't care.

 

  

While I agree with you, I also feel saying "don't fix companies like google, facebook, etc, because others will just replace it" is also a bullshit mindset. There's options to have "safe" social media, it's just hard to implement because nobody has an understanding of it, and large corporations control politics, so it's a very hard movement to begin.

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Banning tictok on gov devices is like banning runescape in a school. Like sure, totally reasonable and fair, but are you really going to achieve what you think you are here? Hahaha

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I'm just surprised TikTok hasn't been identified as causing cancer in the State of California!

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13 minutes ago, Leviathan- said:

You nailed it man. Take your piece of Linus Gold and rest easy champ.

I'd like to say I do it for the kids, but I really just do it for the odd internet point.

 

1 hour ago, Pascal... said:

So do they only ban the app or also delete every user account that was made in the US ? Because I can guarantee you that there's going to be lots of national outcry from all the wanna be uwus, Starbucks slurping, McDonalds Deepthroating, wanna save the turtles but still buys everything separate in Plastic bags, painting on Light Switches, Nintendo Switches and Smartphone Chargers, fixing everything with ramen noodles fucking Teenagers. (aka that's how you identify your average white girl)

I feel deleting effectively will do nothing, and really all they can do is just ban it for an actual effect... Also you leave ramen out of this. It's innocently delicious.

 

5 minutes ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

Banning tictok on gov devices is like banning runescape in a school. Like sure, totally reasonable and fair, but are you really going to achieve what you think you are here? Hahaha

They think they're going to stop use of the app? What are you getting at?

In the India ban, I'm pretty sure they banned the IMEI's for products. So using VPNs would be useless.

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CPU: Ryzen 7 3800x   |  GPU: Asus ROG STRIX 2080 SUPER Advanced (2115Mhz Core | 9251Mhz Memory) |  Motherboard: Asus X570 TUF GAMING-PLUS  |  RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4 3600MHz 16GB  |  PSU: Corsair RM850x  |  Storage: 1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro, 250GB Samsung 840 Evo, 500GB Samsung 840 Evo  |  Cooler: Corsair H115i Pro XT  |  Case: Lian Li PC-O11

 

Peripherals:

Monitor: LG 34GK950F  |  Sound: Sennheiser HD 598  |  Mic: Blue Yeti  |  Keyboard: Corsair K95 RGB Platinum  |  Mouse: Logitech G502

 

Laptop:

Asus ROG Zephryus G15

Ryzen 7 4800HS, GTX1660Ti, 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 512GB nVME, 144hz

 

NAS:

QNAP TS-451

6TB Ironwolf Pro

 

 

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2 hours ago, The Torrent said:

Communistic China worries me more than America. It’s not just about data, but it’s giving them an advantage tactically comes war.

China has massive issues with wars of expansion.  Their governmental system is too unwieldy to handle further territorial expansion. It’s already bigger than they can easily deal with.  They’ve got massive advantages in a defensive war though.

 

All this partisan flag waving makes me a bit tired.  Yes Red wants everything blamed on “da communists” because it’s convenient for them. The tik tok thing isn’t any worse than the google thing though.  I’m not saying it’s good.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

Life is like a bowl of chocolates: there are all these little crinkly paper cups everywhere.

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4 hours ago, Lord Vile said:

Do you read the stuff or just the headline? Microsoft works with authorities who have a warrant to access a users files. It's not carte blanche

This is true, in fact they even go to court and fight handing over data when they feel the US is over stepping it's power.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/09/microsoft-court-case-hotmail-ireland-search-warrant

 

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Counsel for Microsoft contends that the US search warrant should not have been used to compel it to hand over emails stored in Ireland. “This is an execution of law enforcement seizure on their land,” Joshua Rosenkranz, counsel for Microsoft, told the court. “We would go crazy if China did this to us.”

and the outcome:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/14/microsoft-emails-court-ruling-us-government

 

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A federal appeals court has ruled Microsoft and other companies cannot be forced to turn over customer emails stored on servers outside the United States

 

Becasue everyone thinks MS doesn't care about privacy.   They have always cared, their professional reputation in corporate sales relies on them being honest about it.

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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4 hours ago, Pascal... said:

Because I can guarantee you that there's going to be lots of national outcry from all the wanna be uwus, Starbucks slurping, McDonalds Deepthroating, wanna save the turtles but still buys everything separate in Plastic bags, painting on Light Switches, Nintendo Switches and Smartphone Chargers, fixing everything with ramen noodles fucking Teenagers.

Oddly specific

LTT's Resident Porsche fanboy and nutjob Audiophile.

 

Main speaker setup is now;

 

Mini DSP SHD Studio -> 2x Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC's (fed by AES/EBU, one feeds the left sub and main, the other feeds the right side) -> 2x Neumann KH420 + 2x Neumann KH870

 

(Having a totally seperate DAC for each channel is game changing for sound quality)

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