[EOL] PSU Tier List rev. 14.8

[Juular]

3 hours ago, Gamuniter said:

But even this unit in low priority. Why?

Will be fixed in the next revision.

[Prodigy_Smit]

On 10/23/2019 at 9:15 PM, LukeSavenije said:

• Armageddon | All units

Just noticed but its ironic that a brand called Armageddon is a potential bomb.  

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

2 minutes ago, Prodigy_Smit said:

Just noticed but its ironic that a brand called Armageddon is a potential bomb.  

The brand name is aspirational. 

[Shlouski]

6 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

the first was sent to a reviewer, the second was the retail unit of it. The first is a decent dc-dc CWT PUQ-B, the other is a CWT GPM that can't do over 500w while being sold as an 850w.

 

4 hours ago, Juular said:

There is, just for that one case Luke mentioned above,

 

Thanks for the info guys.

 

Bait and switch, what a shame. I agree, this makes you question the quality of their PSU's, and everything else they make. I hope this only effects a few units and the vast majority are what they claim, but its not worth taking the gamble. 

 

More needs to be done to stop bait and switch, especially when it's this egregious, it's fair to say their PSU's are potentially dangerous.

 

 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Shlouski said:

 

 

Thanks for the info guys.

 

Bait and switch, what a shame. I agree, this makes you question the quality of their PSU's, and everything else they make. I hope this only effects a few units and the vast majority are what they claim, but its not worth taking the gamble. 

 

More needs to be done to stop bait and switch, especially when it's this egregious, it's fair to say their PSU's are potentially dangerous.

 

 

Unfortunately, it's quite common. 

 

 

[WhitetailAni]

Yay for getting a Tier A PSU.

[Luke88]

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[Chiyawa]

Huh, Gigabyte G750H has drop from Tier A to Tier C... What went wrong?

 

Should I be concern? Because mine one is powering Gigabyte RX Vega 64 Gaming OC GPU, Ryzen 5 3600, 2 3.5 inch HDD, 1 2.5 inch HDD, 1 SDD, 2 2.5 inch SAS drive, 2 Blu-ray Drive, and 6 RGB fans.

[MrBrightSyde]

1 hour ago, Chiyawa said:

Huh, Gigabyte G750H has drop from Tier A to Tier C... What went wrong?

Doesn't have OTP, which is required for Tier B and higher. Jonny asked CWT themselves (they make the PSU). It should be fine though.

[Chiyawa]

6 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

Doesn't have OTP, which is required for Tier B and higher. Jonny asked CWT themselves (they make the PSU). It should be fine though.

Yeah, I don't want it to have a 'meltdown' if I'm going for RTX 3080 or 3090. Okay, thanks for the info, I'll have to keep an eye on the temperature then.

[Chiyawa]

12 hours ago, Prodigy_Smit said:

Just noticed but its ironic that a brand called Armageddon is a potential bomb.  

Well, Armaggeddon doesn't really has solid PSU, the fact that they are very similar with AVF (another brand in South East Asia) PSU. Well, in South East Asian market, these PSU can be found in cyber cafe PCs.

[LukeSavenije]

11 hours ago, Chiyawa said:

Huh, Gigabyte G750H has drop from Tier A to Tier C... What went wrong?

CWT confirmed it not having OTP, the rest is still the same

 

edit: I'm late I see

[Mark Kaine]

You know, this list and me isn't going to get friends anytime soon, I just bought a Seasonic PRIME GX-750 (the *fourth* power supply im buying in the last few months) and it's not in the list...

 

So, please tell me where would the Seasonic PRIME GX-750 (750W) likely land in this list, A, B... S? 

 

 

PS: also, it's "single rail" (I think?) that's what I want, right? (already forgot what's the purpose of multi / single lol) 

[LukeSavenije]

16 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

it's not in the list...

Prime GX is the newer revision with minor changes to Prime Gold, which is in tier A single rail

[Mark Kaine]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

Prime GX is the newer revision with minor changes to Prime Gold, which is in tier A single rail

Thank you, I almost figured cause  "Gold" is listed, but yeah, not what I bought, I bought "GX" 

 

So I guess this should be fine... (for a 3070)

[AlexArslan]

What are the issues with the new MSI PSU? Or is it just lacking in trusted reviews? 

[genexis_x]

On 12/13/2020 at 8:37 PM, Juular said:

Looks like a reincarnation of Golden Green / King with OTP, but i can't get any info about their 'H.L.B.' bearing, so it's tier B low priority.

If the fan is decent, it's a tier B?

[Tristerin]

Just bought one of these to try out, wonder where this upcoming brand will end up on the tier list.

 

Once it arrives I may be willing to take it apart and take some pics if it would be helpful (depending on how the shell is attached).

 

ARESGAME 750W Power Supply Semi Modular 80+ Bronze PSU (AGV750) - Newegg.com

[Juular]

6 hours ago, genexis_x said:

If the fan is decent, it's a tier B?

If it isn't plain sleeve bearing then it would likely end up in tier A.

[Juular]

3 hours ago, Tristerin said:

wonder where this upcoming brand will end up on the tier list.

Tier D.

[MrBrightSyde]

13 hours ago, AlexArslan said:

What are the issues with the new MSI PSU? Or is it just lacking in trusted reviews? 

Looking at the changelog, next time Luke updates the post, the MSI will be moved to normal Tier A and be colored blue.

 

It was in low priority since there weren't any professional reviews at the time of last update.

[Tristerin]

1 hour ago, Juular said:

Tier D.

Who has reviewed it?  Can you link some?

 

BTW I regularly buy trash PSUs and have no issues, nor has it ever bit me in the ass.  While I love the tier list, its really awesome and helpful, some things do not make sense on it

 

It supposedly has all the protections - want me to pop it and take good pics?  I prefer facts over how I feel about something.

 

EDIT - the only testing I can do with it, and the plan is, to pair it with the overclocked R7 1700 @ 1.4v and a R9 Fury X at max power limit.  So pretty heavy load - if something will remove the magic smoke from the box, that will.

[doubleflower]

@Juular Where should be the MWE Gold v2 fit in this tier list?  There's seems to be quite a few upgrades over the v1:

 

1. Upgraded to 105C capacitors

2. Better voltage regulation

3. Lower power ripple

4. Upgraded fan

 

https://www.expreview.com/76432.html 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=https://www.expreview.com/76432.html

 

[Juular]

15 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Who has reviewed it?  Can you link some?

No one so far, it's just that an another buyer like you provided us with some internal shots and it's platform from some of more unknown OEMs (looks a tad like Zalman LX made by Hui Cheng, credit to @OrionFOTL IIRC) utilizing group regulated secondary topology which will all end-up in tier D unless there will be review of it showing <5% min to max voltage regulation under crossloads.

About the magic smoke, it might not show it right away, or even down some years, a bad PSU today is not just about blowing up. Even if the unit has all basic protections functioning and doesn't blow up under advertised usecases, ripple, voltage regulation and transient response are important also and you can't expect that stuff to be any good from such low-end and outdated product. And if ripple or voltage regulation (in static or dynamic load) is extremely bad it might actually show the magic smoke from your other components or they'll just start to act erratically.

[Atgz]

A friend in Turkey recently asked me if they should buy "GamePower GP-750 " which is a brand I've never heard of before. I think it's a Turkey specific brand of a Chinese company. I had a look at the marketing materials and it screams "these specs are fake". I suggested him something else but I'm curious if it is at least C or B tier, which would be good to know since it is VERY cheap :P

 

Here is an internal shot I found on their website:

 

There are some bold claims (about using japanese capacitors etc) on the marketing material, but i'm not even sure if it's DC-DC or group regulated :P 

 

 

Can someone help me do a sanity check? thanks!