You thought RDR2 needed space? - Call of Duty storage requirements

[Doobeedoo]

We know they're using new engine this time, have RT and 4K textures, probably uncompressed sound as well on top of it. Really how many maps assets too there must be. A BR map in maybe as well? Also possibly accounted for future DLCs too? It's SP and MP but still. 

I'm quite curious to know what mostly take up such space. 

[Harry Voyager]

So, apparently, if you order the Mega Earth Scenery for the lower 48 States, they highly recommend you select the "delivery by hard drive" shipping method. Apparently all that scenery is about 2TB when compressed. They will even refund you $120 off the shipping if you mail them the hard drive back...

 

https://www.megasceneryearth.com/new-version-3-0/usa-regional-bundles/usa-lower-48/

 

Yes, this is a real thing. Flightsimmers are a slightly crazy bunch... 

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, Harry Voyager said:

So, apparently, if you order the Mega Earth Scenery for the lower 48 States, they highly recommend you select the "delivery by hard drive" shipping method. Apparently all that scenery is about 2TB when compressed. They will even refund you $120 off the shipping if you mail them the hard drive back...

 

https://www.megasceneryearth.com/new-version-3-0/usa-regional-bundles/usa-lower-48/

 

Yes, this is a real thing. Flightsimmers are a slightly crazy bunch... 

Good lord... still cheaper than an actual plane or jet though I guess?

[shaz2sxy]

3 hours ago, RejZoR said:

And then there is demo scene which stuffs jaw dropping visuals in frigging 64KB. And you start to wonder what the F these companies are even doing with their life...

I used to love the demo scene on my Amiga,, the stuff they used to do on a floppy was mental

[Harry Voyager]

2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Good lord... still cheaper than an actual plane or jet though I guess?

Well, you could get a 1970's era Cessna 150 for 20-40K USD. You just need about 10-20K in flight school and must weigh less than 200lbs. Also, avgas runs at about $10 a gallon, so at 30-40 gallons in the tank, you can burn a few hundred dollars a flight. 

 

So yes, it's still cheaper than owning a plane. That said, it's looking like FS2020 is going to have that kind of terrain with the base package and a probable MS subscription.

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Harry Voyager said:

Well, you could get a 1970's era Cessna 150 for 20-40K USD. You just need about 10-20K in flight school and must weigh less than 200lbs. Also, avgas runs at about $10 a gallon, so at 30-40 gallons in the tank, you can burn a few hundred dollars a flight. 

 

So yes, it's still cheaper than owning a plane. That said, it's looking like FS2020 is going to have that kind of terrain with the base package and a probable MS subscription.

Yooooo holy shit that's looking good! I think it's a similar situation to racing sims, it's easy to poke fun at paying thousands for video games and funky looking hardware, but at the end of the day it's still cheaper than buying a race car or plane then paying for gas, insurance, maintenance, the whole lot. No risk of dying in a crash either, I don't think they've gotten to SAO levels of realism in games yet (ah the good 'ole "if you die here you die IRL", nice and realistic but not very fun). 

[Tristerin]

4 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

a bad pun

I thought it was a good pun

 

 

 

Also Im not surprised, is there an industry expectation that games should not be so heavy in storage size?  WoW Classic was able to be released at 5gb...to me that made sense dealing with the lack of...stuff from 19 years ago being able to compress to a file that size.  But this is a fairly new game so why the surprise?  (I am asking in all seriousness)

[Zando_]

16 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Also Im not surprised, is there an industry expectation that games should not be so heavy in storage size?  WoW Classic was able to be released at 5gb...to me that made sense dealing with the lack of...stuff from 19 years ago being able to compress to a file that size.  But this is a fairly new game so why the surprise?  (I am asking in all seriousness)

IDK what exactly makes some games so big and others not, I think that's the thing. Rise of The Tomb Raider has a decently big world and amazing textures and it's only 30GB or so, IIRC Shadow isn't much larger but has even better textures and a larger world. Is it the textures, the audio, what actually adds the bulk to games? 

[Harry Voyager]

2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Yooooo holy shit that's looking good! I think it's a similar situation to racing sims, it's easy to poke fun at paying thousands for video games and funky looking hardware, but at the end of the day it's still cheaper than buying a race car or plane then paying for gas, insurance, maintenance, the whole lot. No risk of dying in a crash either, I don't think they've gotten to SAO levels of realism in games yet (ah the good 'ole "if you die here you die IRL", nice and realistic but not very fun). 

Yes, and even if a lot of us had the cash and time to fly, there's still the medical requirements et al. 

 

And, right now, there's not enough money in the world to take a P-47 to 30,000 ft, 2600 horses spitting fire over Berlin, catapult launch an F-14B, 30,000lbs of full mil power, off the deck of the Stennis, or any number of things you can do in sim, for real anymore.

 

We're crazy, spend to much money, build gizmos and control mounts out of drain pipes and broken furniture, obsess over weird minuta, spend countless hours pouring over goat-choker manuals, but for us, the thrill is second to nothing. 

[Kilrah]

5 hours ago, Harry Voyager said:

So, apparently, if you order the Mega Earth Scenery for the lower 48 States, they highly recommend you select the "delivery by hard drive" shipping method. Apparently all that scenery is about 2TB when compressed. They will even refund you $120 off the shipping if you mail them the hard drive back...

 

https://www.megasceneryearth.com/new-version-3-0/usa-regional-bundles/usa-lower-48/

 

Yes, this is a real thing. Flightsimmers are a slightly crazy bunch... 

And all obsoleted by FS2020 

 

[Zando_]

Just now, Harry Voyager said:

Yes, and even if a lot of us had the cash and time to fly, there's still the medical requirements et al. 

 

And, right now, there's not enough money in the world to take a P-47 to 30,000 ft, 2600 horses spitting fire over Berlin, catapult launch an F-14B, 30,000lbs of full mil power, off the deck of the Stennis, or any number of things you can do in sim, for real anymore.

 

We're crazy, spend to much money, build gizmos and control mounts out of drain pipes and broken furniture, obsess over weird minuta, spend countless hours pouring over goat-choker manuals, but for us, the thrill is second to nothing. 

Hell yeah, that's the fun in sims. Closest thing I've played is RealFight G5, an R/C Plane sim. Me and my siblings used to have all sorts of fun in that, it even let you modify planes so if you wanted the paintball one to shoot painballs 300 feet across, you could do that. Wanted it to magically carry 200 rockets inside a normal R/C plane and then fire them in bursts of 10 at what seems like near light speed and triple the explosion size? Done. And again we didn't have to buy R/C planes and spend hundreds when we crashed them, just slapped the reset button and bam all better. I don't think we ever really took it seriously lol, mostly just did goofy stuff. Though putting it in cockpit view (some of the planes actually had accurate cockpits) and cruising along through 2010-era sim graphics mountains in a model L-39 felt really damn good, even using an R/C controller and not a proper joystick and everything like a real plane. 

[Junky Cat]

I remember not too long ago people posting snip its of Gears of War 4 installs over 200GB's with DLC.

[Harry Voyager]

4 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

...

Well, Il-2 did just release the Operation Baseplate map and the last of the Allied planes: https://il2sturmovik.com/store/battle-of-bodenplatte/

 

Only $70, though you'd want a joystick and rudder for it. The Thrustmaster T1600M flight pack is a solid starting spot: https://stormbirds.blog/2019/08/13/thrustmaster-t-16000m-fcs-flight-pack-review/

[Fnige]

R.I.P to everyone with slow internet

[NumLock21]

SSD has gotten cheaper, but with games getting ridiculous in size, a HDD is still a better option. More GB per dollar. But the thing is majority of them large HDD are 5,400RPM. At lest they're not as slow compared to 7,200RPM drives.

[melete]

I don't really care much about downloading a game but it's kind of funny that COD is roughly four times the size of Assassin's Creed Odyssey's install size.

[Zando_]

5 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

SSD has gotten cheaper, but with games getting ridiculous in size, a HDD is still a better option. More GB per dollar. But the thing is majority of them large HDD are 5,400RPM. At lest they're not as slow compared to 7,200RPM drives.

? That's confusingly worded, 7200rpm drives are much faster than 5400rpm ones. And SSDs up to 2TB aren't badly priced at all, it's just the larger ones that are hella expensive. Some of the 4TB ones don't have a bad $/GB compared to other SSDs though, but ofc they still can't compete with HDDs. I'd say the massive performance increase is often worth it though. 

[Fnige]

9 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

? That's confusingly worded, 7200rpm drives are much faster than 5400rpm ones. And SSDs up to 2TB aren't badly priced at all, it's just the larger ones that are hella expensive. Some of the 4TB ones don't have a bad $/GB compared to other SSDs though, but ofc they still can't compete with HDDs. I'd say the massive performance increase is often worth it though. 

as the owner of the slowest hard drive (/s) i can agree

[NumLock21]

21 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

? That's confusingly worded, 7200rpm drives are much faster than 5400rpm ones. And SSDs up to 2TB aren't badly priced at all, it's just the larger ones that are hella expensive. Some of the 4TB ones don't have a bad $/GB compared to other SSDs though, but ofc they still can't compete with HDDs. I'd say the massive performance increase is often worth it though. 

7,200rpm drives aren't as fast as 5,400rpm drives. Yes they are faster, but not blazing fast, but it also depends on the size.

 

 

[Kilrah]

15 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

7,200rpm drives aren't as fast as 5,400rpm drives. Yes they are faster,

You must not be an English speaker because you just told 2 exact opposites in the same sentence.

[Kilrah]

50 minutes ago, SlimyPython said:

R.I.P to everyone with slow internet

Or data caps, RIP Australians...

[TechyBen]

26 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

You must not be an English speaker because you just told 2 exact opposites in the same sentence.

Yeah, if NOT comparing capacity to capacity, or model type to model type (I guess you could get a "faster" 5200 if the firmware/sata cable/type was slower/artificially limited). Some of those are low power or high density or "shingled" drives. So lots of variance between models.

 

Larger SSDs are also at times faster than smaller ones (more chips thus parallel read options etc).

[edit]

https://www.techregar.com/5400-rpm-vs-7200-rpm-hard-disk-drive/

Here. Though of cause it's mainly only with sequential reads, those big file transfers, I'd happily pay for a few mins saving each time. XD

[Fnige]

37 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Or data caps, RIP Australians...

or people still on ADSL, rip those aussies who havent gotten it yet

[kingmustard]

I presume high-quality FMVs will take up a chunk of the space.

[NumLock21]

56 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

You must not be an English speaker because you just told 2 exact opposites in the same sentence.

How so?