Would you sell game hacks or cheats for quick cash?

[Rakanoth]

Imagine that you are in need of a quick cash.

You are an experienced developer. You know Windows internals well. You are already good at C++ and system/kernel programming. You are also well-versed reverse engineer.

In consideration of the current status of the video game cheat market, you come to the realization that you can make a good sum of money by selling video game cheats.

Would you do it? Would it go against your principles?

[Zenedge]

never. games are meant to be fun, and hacking takes away the fun of others. i wouldn't want to earn money at the expense of other people

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

6 minutes ago, Rakanoth said:

In consideration of the current status of the video game cheat market, you come to the realization that you can make a good sum of money by selling video game cheats.

no, these are all voluntary work, no one will pay for it

[Rakanoth]

1 minute ago, dgsddfgdfhgs said:

no, these are all voluntary work,

Creating cheats for online games is a voluntary work? No way. If you make your cheat public, the cheat you develop will be blacklisted by the anti cheat software within 24 hours

[RGProductions]

Yes. In a heartbeat. I hate cheaters, but I'd still do it for sure. 

[zassou]

if its a game i care about, no, i wont; otherwise, why not?

 

if i can... sadly i know nothing about programming, so no quick cash for me.

[TheKDub]

5 hours ago, Rakanoth said:

Imagine that you are in need of a quick cash.

You are an experienced developer. You know Windows internals well. You are already good at C++ and system/kernel programming. You are also well-versed reverse engineer.

In consideration of the current status of the video game cheat market, you come to the realization that you can make a good sum of money by selling video game cheats.

Would you do it? Would it go against your principles?

Yes, and I'd dominate the market while I'm at it.

[DumbAsshole32]

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[DumbAsshole32]

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[The King of the Undead]

only single player games.

[Rakanoth]

12 hours ago, -Kriss- said:

Absolutely not, theres plenty of free cheats out there that remain undetected for months.

This is not the case for BattlEye, EasyAntiCheat, FaceIt, ESL Wire or ESEA. These anti cheats are pretty strong and any cheat that is public will not work. I can guarantee that 100%.

 

However, sXe anti cheat, VAC, Punkbuster and many other user-mode anti-cheats are pretty useless. Public cheats might work well with them.

[Tristerin]

Me: If there is a Market for your skills and they can provide for you, well that's Capitalism.

 

However I abhor cheaters so its not for me, but to each their own.

[wasab]

Nah, I don't paid $$$. Currently planning pokemon ultra sun and pokemon alpha sapphire. Both are hacked and modified version of the original games (called pnumbra moon and star sapphire by their creators). I use a cheat tool called Pkhex to cheat a bit as well. It is free software and you can actually grab its source code from github. 

 

 

They are more entertaining than the vannila games and runs great on Citra emulator on my Linux machine. I can even play multiplyer. Crazy how far 3ds emulator has gotten.... Also I can imagine shit tons of legal lawsuits and criminal charges that can happen if these modders and hackers decide to commercialize their creations. 

[wasab]

18 hours ago, Zenedge said:

never. games are meant to be fun, and hacking takes away the fun of others. i wouldn't want to earn money at the expense of other people

Nothing unethical about hacking copies of SINGLE PLAYER games you own. If You cheat in online games, that's a different matter. I play competitively in company of heroes 2 and I will report a cheater when I see one. 

[snoopunit]

Plenty of people will pay lots of money for cheats/bots in online games. Take World of Warcraft for example. Many thousands of people have paid lots of money for bot programs to play the game for them: harvest materials, gold farm, etc. However, the more popular your paid cheat programs become, the more notoriety you gain with the companies that develop these games. The first big bot program for WoW was taken down by force of Blizzard's legal team, but I can't think of the name of it right now. The latest botting programs are currently fighting legal battles with Blizzard as well.

 

IMO if you want to make any serious amount of money from something like this, I would be more inclined to develop a private botting program and use it on many hundreds of accounts to farm gold, resources, etc. That way, you can gain income from the selling of currencies online, as well as selling the max-level accounts once they are done making the money for you. I was looking at the prices for max-level accounts on Runescape 3 the other night, and it seems like a high enough account could sell for $200-300 minimum. Now it could take a few months for a bot program running 24/7 to even come close to getting an account that high, but if you're running a farm of 100+ accounts at once, and can manage to get them maxed out reliably, then you're looking at a lot of money if it can be done successfully. And all that income is in addition to any in-game currency that you sell before you offload the accounts. 

 

If I knew how to program better than I currently do, I would absolutely try to make some money from it, but selling cheat software online opens you up to charge-backs from unhappy customers that can't manage to keep their accounts from getting banned and even legal trouble should the development company find your programs for sale online.

[harvey likes intel]

nope law suites can be made ask epic games..... they sued a 13 yr old or 14

[Andreas Lilja]

Yes.

 

I mean on the scale of evil, selling video game cheats clearly isn't in the top 500.

[Nine Tailed Fox]

Wasn't their a guy who got the book thrown at him for creating cheats

[Arika]

no. i have morals

 

plus anyone who pays for cheats in video games is scum

[lewdicrous]

If it's a single player game then I'll give it out for free (on girhub or the likes)

I wouldn't give out ones meant for multiplayer games cause those ruin the experience of everyone involved in that game.

[DumbAsshole32]

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[dalekphalm]

On 8/5/2019 at 11:37 PM, Rakanoth said:

Imagine that you are in need of a quick cash.

You are an experienced developer. You know Windows internals well. You are already good at C++ and system/kernel programming. You are also well-versed reverse engineer.

In consideration of the current status of the video game cheat market, you come to the realization that you can make a good sum of money by selling video game cheats.

Would you do it? Would it go against your principles?

Absolutely not. If I were that good of a coder, I'd sell my skills legally.

 

Cheats ruin online games, and cheaters are scum.

[Princess Luna]

18 hours ago, Rakanoth said:

This is not the case for BattlEye, EasyAntiCheat, FaceIt, ESL Wire or ESEA. These anti cheats are pretty strong and any cheat that is public will not work. I can guarantee that 100%.

You'd be surprise but there are cheats that works fine on places like ESEA, people actually sell CS:GO ESEA ready cheats (the usual wallhack and autoaim combo) for a really high price tag... I did search some invite only obscure forums and usually it'd cost around 600 dollars per month a subscription for this kind of truly undetected cheat.... the low amount of people using it along side complex coding ensures it remains undetected even against the heaviest anti-cheat measures.

[duncannah]

Of course, couldn't care less if it affected other people.. it's just a game after all 

[Rakanoth]

7 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

You'd be surprise but there are cheats that works fine on places like ESEA, people actually sell CS:GO ESEA ready cheats (the usual wallhack and autoaim combo) for a really high price tag... I did search some invite only obscure forums and usually it'd cost around 600 dollars per month a subscription for this kind of truly undetected cheat.... the low amount of people using it along side complex coding ensures it remains undetected even against the heaviest anti-cheat measures.

I said "any cheat that is public will not work". With all due respect, I have to say that it seems that you did not read my post properly.