Logan Paul Posts Footage of Apparent Suicide Victim on YouTube

[DildorTheDecent]

54 minutes ago, Castdeath97 said:

Can someone give me a TL;DR for this? Not giving this ... thing views.

Seems like a fairly convincing apology.

 

Tana Mongoose Mongoloid Mongeau can learn a thing or two.

[Misanthrope]

4 hours ago, Castdeath97 said:

Here is what I would assume is Youtube's response for now:

 

 

You'd think but I'm hearing this might not be the case. As expected, youtube are hypocrites and liars: 

 

 

[Theminecraftaddict555]

Here is the funny part

 

There is a clip of him saying it will be screwed up if any kids stumbled upon a dead body like the one in the video. However, thinks it is a good idea to upload the video containing the dead body to YT for all other kids to "virtually" stumble on to. It's like he is saying "it's not ok for kids to find a dead body physically/in real life but it's ok if its on the internet"

[Brehohn]

7 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Yes, it was.

 

Are you for real?

It is NOT respectful to walk up to a corpse, pose for photos, laugh and joke about it, or any of the other stuff he did.

 

This is not some fucking live broadcast. Yes, vloggers would record themselves going there. Only someone fucked in the head would actually film themselves pose and joke next to a corpse, then edit the video and make the conscious decision to upload for the world to see.

 

Are you for real? Yeah, what a fucking hero he is. Everyone should praise Logan!

 

What the fuck do you expect them to do? Carry the corpse with them? If you think this is showing respect then I seriously fear for your future.

You seem extremely mad at my response. Seems like you read it, but didn't really READ into it. For one, they weren't laughing or posing next to the body. THEY were shaken up about the experience and Logan even admitted to his coping mechanism (WHICH EXISTS IN PEOPLE). I'm not saying he's a "hero". Far from it. But because he went there to create "content", he ended up finding someone's lost child. Think about that. They could have EASILY stayed the night there and returned later on. But they didn't. They stayed away from that place and went back to their hotels. So yes, they left respectfully. 

Nothing about his video was entirely "wrong". To film a dead body, that depends on the individual. But look at the bigger picture here. He just raised suicidal awareness for MILLIONS OF YOUNG VIEWERS that might have those thoughts. Me, I'm actually apart of that (but I'm 22 and still suffer daily). Seeing someone popular like Logan take a risk and upload the video shows a lot of people that suicide is REAL. Something that a lot of people these days seem to brush off their shoulder and ignore. 

 

Instead of hearing about all the "bad" that these brothers have done, thanks to the media enlightening a bit over the top, you probably don't even like them anyways. So your mind was already made up on your stance about him. But what you lack to see, is the bigger picture. 

 

He raised awareness with something scary to millions of people. He films his daily life and involves his viewers in that. So yes, he made a decision without thinking of some of the consequences that people could have felt, however, he probably didn't think because he's just used to uploading everything and anything. It's what he's used to at this point.

 

So please, read more into what someone says before lashing out.

[Brehohn]

1 hour ago, Theminecraftaddict555 said:

Here is the funny part

 

There is a clip of him saying it will be screwed up if any kids stumbled upon a dead body like the one in the video. However, thinks it is a good idea to upload the video containing the dead body to YT for all other kids to "virtually" stumble on to. It's like he is saying "it's not ok for kids to find a dead body physically/in real life but it's ok if its on the internet"

It's different seeing death in the face than it is on a video where you're safe. In person, that could be life shattering.

[ItsMitch]

8 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

Nothing about his video was entirely "wrong". To film a dead body, that depends on the individual

What????

 

10 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

e just raised suicidal awareness for MILLIONS OF YOUNG VIEWERS that might have those thoughts

He just showed MILLIONS of his 12-year-old fans that it's perfectly acceptable to go and record might I add, A FUCKING DEAD GUY in a park called Suicide Forest, if you think that's acceptable then I'm sorry, you need to rethink what acceptable is.

11 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

Instead of hearing about all the "bad" that these brothers have done, thanks to the media enlightening a bit over the top, you probably don't even like them anyways. So your mind was already made up on your stance about him. But what you lack to see, is the bigger picture. 

 

The bigger picture is that Logan is an utter prick for what he's done, nothing about this is positive, dunno why you're trying to defend him so aggressively and to the death, it's just not going to work in my book. 

12 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

He raised awareness with something scary to millions of people. He films his daily life and involves his viewers in that. So yes, he made a decision without thinking of some of the consequences that people could have felt, however, he probably didn't think because he's just used to uploading everything and anything. It's what he's used to at this point.

 

He flogs his daily life, I'm sure he had more than enough time to think it out, he did the following: Plans out a video that will cause backlash > Goes and records A DEAD GUY W/O FAMILY PERMISSION > does a stupid as fuck thumbnail with the dead guy in it (and no i don't care of the "HE BLURRED HIS FACE" argument > edits the video > publishes the video to his army of 12 year old fans which attracts millions of viewers and international news outlets. He had plenty of time to rethink his actions. 

[Misanthrope]

1 hour ago, Theminecraftaddict555 said:

Here is the funny part

 

There is a clip of him saying it will be screwed up if any kids stumbled upon a dead body like the one in the video. However, thinks it is a good idea to upload the video containing the dead body to YT for all other kids to "virtually" stumble on to. It's like he is saying "it's not ok for kids to find a dead body physically/in real life but it's ok if its on the internet"

Yeah I'm sure this fucking guy had such a nuanced and elaborate plan to teach kids a lesson:

 

"Yeah I rep that merch
Yes I do in church,

yes I put in work,

who's that santa looking at?

Take your gifts and give em back!

Maverick merch is where it's at

Got the hoodie, got the hat,

who's that santa looking at?

You should drink more milk nonfat,

You should get my new backpack,

Throw away that dirty sack"

 

Clearly deeply concerned for the well being of children this guy is.

 

Apologies to well, all, for inflicting this video onto you all but we needed to be reminded who we're talking about.

[ItsMitch]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Apologies to well, all, for inflicting this video onto you all but we needed to be reminded who we're talking about

oh no, what have you done to my eardrums

[Skanky Sylveon]

13 hours ago, LAwLz said:

Me and my friends are planning a trip to Japan, and we have brought up going there. Why? Because it is an interesting place. It makes me curious what is so special about that place.

The problem wasn't going there.  Hell, the problem wasn't even them filming it.  The problem was that they were going to make a "fun" video in a place where several people have committed suicide.

I find that distasteful, if they wanted to make a video about it for some other reason, then I probably would have absolutely no issue.

13 hours ago, Matu20 said:

Don't know who he is and don't care, why is this news?

I didn't know who he was before this either.  It's related to tech just as much as the swatting news is, which is indirect.

12 hours ago, Sauron said:

Yes, but you won't go there with the intention of 1) camping there and 2) vlogging about it, or at least that's what I would assume. Visiting it is fine, but they clearly meant to get some video material out of it. If they hadn't found the body they probably would have talked about how "spooooky" it was and maybe have faked some scared reactions to small noises. Which would be harmless, if not for the fact that the "haunted forest" reputation comes from people committing suicide there - meaning all of the above basically amounts to making light of suicide.

I wouldn't mind a video if it was more serious.  Something goofy isn't appropriate in that situation.

12 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

EDIT: Also to complement what @Sauron above me said this could very well trigger yet another adpocalypse round.

That's my biggest worry about this situation.

11 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

It's sad that kids of today's society look up to idiots like LP, and the like. Not only that, almost the entire YT is filled with people like them, and the comments proves it.

YouTube comments ate worse then Reddit, and Reddit can be pretty bad.

10 hours ago, Cruorzy said:

I like this forum, lets not include people like him or youtubers in general with news.

It has nothing to do with tech so whatever.

This is no argument, we can go back if someone posts porn here it should not mean to be OK.

 

Because it was featured on the WAN show does it not make it open to ALL topics IMO.

 

Hopefully we aren't going to make a post over a big Youtuber who is breaking up with his Boyfriend/girlfriend.

Porn would get removed by the mod team, this hasn't been removed yet so it's probably acceptable.

While no, posting news about a big Youtuber who is breaking up with his Boyfriend/girlfriend would probably be inappropriate, the potential implications that this has with YouTube as a whole makes this indirectly tech related.  Just like the swatting incident is indirectly tech related.

[Skanky Sylveon]

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

Logan Paul is way better and nicer than Jake Paul by a long shot.

Yes, good enough to film a corpse.

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

This was not a bad thing to do at all.

Yes it was.

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

He blurred the face to be respectful.

Are you serious?

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

He went there to do a 24 hour overnight challenge in the forest simply because, why not?

People have committed suicide there.  That's reason enough to not be silly there.

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

but to see if it was haunted and for content reasons.

Which was extremely distasteful.

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

If it wasn’t for them, that body might of never been found.

Yes, they were planning to be asshats in an area that many have killed themselves in.  But instead, found a dead body and filmed it.  Such heroes.

8 hours ago, Brehohn said:

I’d recommend watching his videos more to understand where he comes from.

I don't want to watch anything from him after this.

There are YouTubers that I am subscribed to that have pissed me off, and I have called them out on it because I expect better from them.

I do NOT defend them.

6 hours ago, Eduard the weeb said:

okay what he did was wrong, but laughing was okay, not great because laughing is a natural coping mechanism for alot of people, But I am not saying what he did was acceptable in anyway and putting down the camera and calling the police was mandated in that situation. 

YES, THANK YOU.

5 hours ago, Snadzies said:

Film me all you want when I die, I won't care because I'll be dead.

Do some Weekend at Burnie's stuff, let a necrophiliac have some fun, give a canable a meal.

Someone wants to point and laugh? Won't care, dead.

Someone wants to use my corpse to promote their agenda? Won't care, dead.

If I was dead, I wouldn't care either.  Others would though.

5 hours ago, LAwLz said:

but he actually edited the video

That was the deciding factor for me.

 

[Skanky Sylveon]

22 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

For one, they weren't laughing or posing next to the body. THEY were shaken up about the experience and Logan even admitted to his coping mechanism (WHICH EXISTS IN PEOPLE).

Agreed.

23 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

I'm not saying he's a "hero". Far from it. But because he went there to create "content", he ended up finding someone's lost child.

He could of also, you know, just called the police without uploading the video.

24 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

He just raised suicidal awareness for MILLIONS OF YOUNG VIEWERS that might have those thoughts.

He filmed a corpse, and kept his nervous laughing in.

Children can be pretty mean, and Logan just gave them an excuse to film dead creatures.  Monkey see, monkey do.

There are much better ways to raise suicide awareness.

29 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

Me, I'm actually apart of that (but I'm 22 and still suffer daily).

I'm sorry to hear that.

If you ever feel the urge to take your own life, please call this number.  1-800-273-8255

30 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

Seeing someone popular like Logan take a risk and upload the video shows a lot of people that suicide is REAL. Something that a lot of people these days seem to brush off their shoulder and ignore. 

I saw this as an opportunity to get views and nothing more.

31 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

Instead of hearing about all the "bad" that these brothers have done, thanks to the media enlightening a bit over the top, you probably don't even like them anyways. So your mind was already made up on your stance about him. But what you lack to see, is the bigger picture. 

If his intentions were that then he's an idiot for handling it so poorly.

33 minutes ago, Brehohn said:

He films his daily life and involves his viewers in that. So yes, he made a decision without thinking of some of the consequences that people could have felt

Agreed, he didn't think.

 

Sorry for the triple post, there was a lot of people that I wanted to reply to.

[RefresherMan]

I think his reactions to the body were fine. Some people joke/laugh to help with coping

 

However, using his body as a thumbnail/recording the corpse crosses the line.

 

I like Jake Paul more than Logan Paul now, which is something I thought I'd never say.

[Egg-Roll]

Imo if you walk in there deliberately you don't record it, as one can assume you could find one. If you find a body, you log the GPS point, and move on.

 

If i was to visit Japan I wouldn't dare go near it, it's like going into a funeral home and started discing the dead. Let them lay, is it really that hard? If one did venture into there it better be to help find the bodies to bring them back to their families for a proper burial and ceremony.

 

Walking in there and even incidentally mocking a dead person fine(not really), the second you consciously put it up on public media you're in the wrong, end of story. If i was Japan i would deny him entry for the rest of his life along with the next 2 generation of his family as punishment. Tho the second that happens he'll likely never get married 

 

This guy is basically a more annoying voice of Pewdiepie, with just as much negative intelligence, making you feel 50 iq less intelligent by watching a single video of his. Idk who he is and I'm happy not knowing and would of been happier if i never knew about this garbage(him as a human).

 

4 hours ago, Misanthrope said:

You'd think but I'm hearing this might not be the case. As expected, youtube are hypocrites and liars: 

Youtube shows breast being "touched" by a doctor for cancer reason, but one cant watch a "soft porno" on youtube where the guy touches the female in the same place in the same manner...

 

3 minutes ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

Sorry for the triple post, there was a lot of people that I wanted to reply to.

The forum should have a 30-50 thousand character limit.

[Skanky Sylveon]

11 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

The forum should have a 30-50 thousand character limit.

The issue was that I couldn't quote multiple pages.

[Egg-Roll]

2 minutes ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

The issue was that I couldn't quote multiple pages.

Open each page in a new tab and cut/paste  only reason why this shouldn't work is on mobile devices which trying to cut or remove the quote messes up.

 

Also i found a video by Kavos who blurs out the video more adding his own opinions in to it, which i won't lie i do agree with a ton of what he says.

 

But the biggest thing I'm wondering is, why the hell didn't the tour guide end this nonsense? They are visitors in a forest, they have to listen to him. Japan is not a country you want to piss off, they'll throw you out w/o giving any f*cks.

[Skanky Sylveon]

3 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

Open each page in a new tab and cut/paste  only reason why this shouldn't work is on mobile devices which trying to cut or remove the quote messes up.

That's exactly what happened to me, and I am on a PC.  Weird.  

3 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

But the biggest thing I'm wondering is, why the hell didn't the tour guide end this nonsense?

That is a good question.

[Theminecraftaddict555]

1 hour ago, Brehohn said:

It's different seeing death in the face than it is on a video where you're safe. In person, that could be life shattering.

For the younger audiences, I'm pretty sure it will still be traumatizing whether in video or in person form. Though in person, it could be more traumatizing

[Orangeator]

The guy obviously knew what he was doing the second he decided to upload that to YouTube. This is a distasteful and blatant publicity stunt... I wish his channel was deleted for this.

[xg32]

The guy is a sociopath, i'm not surprised after seeing 10 seconds of that "color-blind" video.

 

• He went off-trail in the suicide forest, "surprised" at finding a dead body.
• upon seeing the dead body, says dumb things (he didn't laugh, but the people that were with him were smiling) first reactions are more genuine imho
• gets close to the corpse
• films the corpse
• films the face
• censors the corpse and puts it on the thumbnail
• fakes his shock
• "surprised" there are kids in the area when he just put a corpse in one of his videos knowing what his audience is
• includes the corpse in the editing of the video

He had many chances and time in decision making to not show the corpse and of course he did it anyway. I don't get mad at stuff unless it's REALLY bad, so i'll just continue not to not watch his videos. Let see if youtube does something about this.

[Cruorzy]

4 hours ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

Porn would get removed by the mod team, this hasn't been removed yet so it's probably acceptable.

While no, posting news about a big Youtuber who is breaking up with his Boyfriend/girlfriend would probably be inappropriate, the potential implications that this has with YouTube as a whole makes this indirectly tech related.  Just like the swatting incident is indirectly tech related.

Personally feels more like a off-topic thing, would have love to see some information about what Youtube could do / react towards this mess.

Instead all i'm getting out of this post is that the idiot did something again.

 

But yeah maybe i'm expecting something else than the normal thing here.

[Carclis]

You can't stoop much lower than trying to further your career by taking advantage of the dead. Such a shame he didn't hang himself while he was there.

[Misanthrope]

6 hours ago, Carclis said:

You can't stoop much lower than trying to further your career by taking advantage of the dead. Such a shame he didn't hang himself while he was there.

Well he did lied about having a disability (color blindness) In the past for views so perhaps we shall feel lucky you're not working on his team and didn't hear this particular idea.

[WkdPaul]

12 hours ago, Brehohn said:

You seem extremely mad at my response.

[snip]

So please, read more into what someone says before lashing out.

 

I'm just going to throw my opinion here, so again this is MY point of view and so it's perfectly fine if you disagree with me.

 

Your defense of his actions are (IMO) very weak and don't really seem to take the suicide victim and it's family into account. Raising awareness for suicide is a good thing and is very commendable, so the intro was (again IMO) well made and thoughtful.

 

But everything else that followed, including the apology was completely unempathetic, unsympathetic, disrespectful and distasteful. The fact that HE, or YOU never once thought of the victim or the family speaks volumes. He could've done the exact same video without showing the body once, he could've shown the paramedics, the cops, etc... But showing the body was just what went ove the line, showing a bit of compassion in a moment like this is the right thing to do, if you think it's not wrong, if you think he showed empathy, compassion or sympathy, then I can assure you that you're sorely lacking in that field also.

 

While I can understand that this falls under "morality" and that views differ on what is moral and immoral, but put all of this aside and look up what happens when someone dies, people pay their respect, even fierce rivals will pay their respect when their opponent dies, that's something universal and when someone deviates from it, it's widely frowned upon. This is a similar situation, where he should've considered the survivors, the family, friends, and just general decency.

 

Again, all of the above is my humble opinion, and you might dismiss all of it and find other excuses, but that doesn't change the fact that your opinion on this is in the minority, and maybe, just maybe you should ask yourself why and look into it.

[mynameisjuan]

12 hours ago, Brehohn said:

Nothing about his video was entirely "wrong". To film a dead body, that depends on the individual. But look at the bigger picture here. He just raised suicidal awareness for MILLIONS OF YOUNG VIEWERS that might have those thoughts. Me, I'm actually apart of that (but I'm 22 and still suffer daily). Seeing someone popular like Logan take a risk and upload the video shows a lot of people that suicide is REAL. Something that a lot of people these days seem to brush off their shoulder and ignore. 

So a group of people laughing at a dead person is raising awareness? You are fucking kidding right? Please tell me you are. 

 

Raising awareness would of been cut out the video the moment they saw it, then later sit down and discuss what he saw. This video is sick. Suicide is real and a few years ago I had a failed attempt. Trust me, I know that shit is real. There are much better ways to bring awareness. 

[AnonymousGuy]

I laugh at so much shit on r/watchpeopledie 

 

They're dead, it's not like they care or that I'm going to meet their families.