Titan V Will Not Get NVLink OR SLI

[Bit_Guardian]

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-titan-v-will-not-support-nvlink-and-does-not-support-sli.html

 

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Right, in our previous post about the NVLINK bridge, we assumed that NVIDIA released the 599 USD NVLINK bridges to support Titan V, as we just heard, this is not the case at all. We just got word back from NVIDIA on this.

 

Basically, the NVLINk bridge you see listed at their store is intended purely for their Quadro and Tesla line of products, and not the new Titan V. According to Nvidia themselves, "Titan V does not support SLI or NV Link". It's an interesting remark and development, as that PCB photo does show two NVLINK connectors available.

 

Sorry everyone

 

And seriously, as expensive as this graphics card is, this is pure greed by Nvidia. Are we going to see this sort of BS again with Ampere? If so, I sincerely hope AMD's Navi brings them to heel.

[iRileyx]

I doubt many people will be upset by this.. not like your average pc person is going to buy 1 of these, let alone 2+ with the hopes of putting them in SLI  

[PCGuy_5960]

That is so greedy, a $3000 Graphics Card should support SLI/NVLink IMO. 

[Bit_Guardian]

Just now, RKRiley said:

I doubt many people will be upset by this.. not like your average pc person is going to buy 1 of these, let alone 2+ with the hopes of putting them in SLI  

But you also can't SLI different cards in the same architecture family, so it really is a shame. People getting the Titan V won't be able to SLI with a GV104 or take advantage of the features that might help justify a $2700 price tag.

[Bcat00]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

That is so greedy, a $3000 Graphics Card should support SLI/NVLink IMO. 

Instead of bitching about the $3000 price tag, you go and rant about the SLI bridge that hardly anyone uses.

 

GET YOUR PRIORITY STRAIGHT AND RAISE THE PITCHFORK WITH ME!!!

[WMGroomAK]

3 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

I doubt many people will be upset by this.. not like your average pc person is going to buy 1 of these, let alone 2+ with the hopes of putting them in SLI  

Well, the order limit that I saw was 2 per a customer so it's not like you can order more than 2, but even if you do order 2, you can't put it into a single machine...  Maybe they should have made the order limit one?

[iRileyx]

2 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

Well, the order limit that I saw was 2 per a customer so it's not like you can order more than 2, but even if you do order 2, you can't put it into a single machine...  Maybe they should have made the order limit one?

That could be a slight oversight on their part haha.

Unless they expect people to run them in different systems? with the price tag they have, it's quite likely the people buying them would have more than one system anyway.

 

I feel poor thinking about this now.

[RollinLower]

3 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

Well, the order limit that I saw was 2 per a customer so it's not like you can order more than 2, but even if you do order 2, you can't put it into a single machine...  Maybe they should have made the order limit one?

that doesn;t stop anyone from obtaining more. the order limit on the original Titan X Pascal was also 2 per costumer, but loads of people now have 4+ of those things in their render farms.

[handymanshandle]

Just now, RollinLower said:

that doesn;t stop anyone from obtaining more. the order limit on the original Titan X Pascal was also 2 per costumer, but loads of people now have 4+ of those things.

Its not like you couldn't go to a different retailer on the same day or different day.

[WMGroomAK]

2 minutes ago, RKRiley said:

feel poor thinking about this now.

Speaking of feeling poor, if someone is buying two of these for two separate systems, just imagine the workstation specs and parts they are probably going into...  

[Princess Luna]

For what is worth it, the workloads meant for this GPU only requires common multiGPU, SLI and NVLink would be redundant.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

I don't even know what people are talking about. SLI is purely a gaming multi-GPU solution, and Volta, not this particular Titan but all of Volta, is an AI / machine learning product line, as stated by Nvidia (I would also like to know what kind of benefits do people expect to get from making a Volta-based gaming card).

 

Greed? Greed would advice to put some SLI connector there to mislead mindless gamers into forking $6000 on a product they don't even understand.

[jasonvp]

12 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Its not like you couldn't go to a different retailer on the same day or different day.

Funny thing is, you an only buy the Titan X Pascal (and Titan Xp) direct from NVidia.  So, yeah.  Not so much.

[AresKrieger]

It's not a gaming card so who cares

 

Do we complain that washing machines don't have usb input, no, so what's the fuss it won't be running any games so why does it matter.

[WMGroomAK]

7 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

I don't even know what people are talking about. SLI is purely a gaming multi-GPU solution, and Volta, not this particular Titan but all of Volta, is an AI / machine learning product line, as stated by Nvidia (I would also like to know what kind of benefits do people expect to get from making a Volta-based gaming card).

 

Greed? Greed would advice to put some SLI connector there to mislead mindless gamers into forking $6000 on a product they don't even understand.

I think that a lot of people were assuming that this would support NVLink as there appear to be those connections on the PCB, even though they are blocked by the cooler shroud.  Other speculation (which I'm inclined to believe) is that these are essentially Tesla V100 cards that didn't make the cut so are being enabled as a professional desktop part.

[pas008]

so its like a 1060 of ai cards ok big deal

[handymanshandle]

10 minutes ago, jasonvp said:

Funny thing is, you an only buy the Titan X Pascal (and Titan Xp) direct from NVidia.  So, yeah.  Not so much.

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[Bit_Guardian]

16 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

I don't even know what people are talking about. SLI is purely a gaming multi-GPU solution, and Volta, not this particular Titan but all of Volta, is an AI / machine learning product line, as stated by Nvidia (I would also like to know what kind of benefits do people expect to get from making a Volta-based gaming card).

 

Greed? Greed would advice to put some SLI connector there to mislead mindless gamers into forking $6000 on a product they don't even understand.

Making an option available is misleading? Oh boy you'd do so well arguing that one in court.

[jasonvp]

OK, let me restate a bit more clearly:

 

When they're new and the hotness, they can't be purchased from anywhere but NVidia.  IOW, you're not going to find today's Titan Xp at Amazon.  The Titan X Pascal is last year's model and when it was new, could only be purchased through NVidia directly.

[Derangel]

So...How is not supporting NVLink, something that requires a $600 bridge and $1200 for two of them if you want full bandwidth, a sign of greed? These are neither gaming cards nor Quadros.

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, wcreek said:

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The thing is these are purchased through nVidia e-commerce directly and resold on these places at these 400~ish higher asking price, it does make sells since availability always is bad.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

53 minutes ago, Bit_Guardian said:

Making an option available is misleading? Oh boy you'd do so well arguing that one in court.

 

Yes, making a useless option available can be misleading, as in making a product seem fit for a purpose it's not good at (or terrible value at). Like selling tanks with baby seat mounts could be misleading.

 

I don't know what a court has to do with anything.  Things don't need to be lawsuit material to be true. It's as silly as saying "Titan XP, Xp, XpP, XPPPPP a confusing naming scheme? Good luck arguing "confusing" at a court!".

[leadeater]

But DX12 mGPU would actually work for the Titan V in games......... still not what the Titan V is for though lol.

 

4 hours ago, WMGroomAK said:

Well, the order limit that I saw was 2 per a customer so it's not like you can order more than 2, but even if you do order 2, you can't put it into a single machine...  Maybe they should have made the order limit one?

You can put two in a single workstation, you just can't play DX11 games with both. AI and compute loads will use both cards happily without NVLink however there will be a few cases where NVLink would have helped or possibly be required but you can bet for those people they will have access to a Tesla V100 powered server to run their finalized workload on.

[DocSwag]

Sucks for the type of people that would actually buy this card for gaming, but it doesn't matter much to us.

 

At any rate... theoretically couldn't one of these water cooled beat 1080 ti sli? Holy molly.

[2FA]

People are actually buying the "Titan isn't for gaming" despite the webpage having "GAMING" dead center?