Nvidia, you PROMISED!

[alextulu]

What happened with the 5700 XT? Are AMD drivers that bad?

[Velcade]

Just now, alextulu said:

What happened with the 5700 XT? Are AMD drivers that bad?

AMD wanted to go on a bike ride.

[Tieox]

@LinusTechYou have impressed me, an entire video with a new product and you didn't drop it yet. 

[Egg-Roll]

5 hours ago, Spotty said:

Also RIP AMD who decided to call in sick on RTX3080 Benchmark Day.

Linus hurt it by either dropping it (my guess) or by forcing it to compete against 2 units and their older sibling that it has previously lost most challenges against, so it refused to work for him unless he apologized.

[Jack Longman]

My 980ti is looking forward to a well earned retirement at this point, just waiting for the "Buy Now" button to light up to get my hands on one

[straight_stewie]

In Nvidias defense, they never said "twice as fast".

They said "Twice as fast per watt", which doesn't even seem to be the case either though.

So maybe not a great defense.

[Zenith_X1]

I know this is an extreme example, perhaps the most extreme example I've found so far, but both 1080p AND 1440p as a bottleneck in the example below gets me thinking that 1080p is only a few generations from dying out like 720p.  Might be worth addressing in future 3080/3090 coverage

 

 

If 1080p and 1440p are the same frame rate then who in their right mind would opt for worse image quality at 1080p?  And this is all without factoring in AI upscaling in future DLSS iterations

[Trentonxx]

any youtuber that has coverage for VR performance? the only thing I found was 4 lines from this article speculating on performance in 2 games
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/nvidia-rtx-3080-review-4k-greatness-at-699-and-good-news-for-cheaper-gpus/

[SolarNova]

37 minutes ago, Zenith_X1 said:

I know this is an extreme example, perhaps the most extreme example I've found so far, but both 1080p AND 1440p as a bottleneck in the example below gets me thinking that 1080p is only a few generations from dying out like 720p.  Might be worth addressing in future 3080/3090 coverage

 

 

 

If 1080p and 1440p are the same frame rate then who in their right mind would opt for worse image quality at 1080p?  And this is all without factoring in AI upscaling in future DLSS iterations

A few things need to happen before 1080p dies out like 720p.

 

Low end 'gaming' cards need to be capable of 'minimum' frame rates above 60 at High settings profiles on the 'average' AAA game at 1440p.

So a $250 GPU needs to be able to pull that of.

 

Monitors need to be of moderate quality and be fully tuned for 1440p 120hz+ (so fast enough pixel response) at a 'cheap' price tag.

So u need to be able to find a sub $300 monitor than can achieve 120hz+ 1440p without significant image quality issues.

 

If both of these are done then ull see the 'average' non enthusiast PC user who games have a 1440p display and 1440p capable GPU.

 

However neither of these milestones have been hit yet. But we are most certainly past the halfway point towards that final destination of 1080p being phased out.

[steelo]

Nvidia just being Nvidia...

[Rob.Larby]

Performance vs 1080Ti is impressive, may be time to upgrade for people that skipped 20xx series

[Luscious]

It will be interesting to see how well this performs with F@H and if the rumors are true that MINERS will go grabbing these up the minute they go on sale. My pick is the 3090 though, but I'm guessing a water-cooled version of that card will still be north of $1400. You really had to be a fool to buy a RTX Titan at $2500 and then drop $200 more for a waterblock+backplate.

 

For anybody at nVidia reading this, I will gladly take those unsold RTX Titans off your hands at a "reduced price"

[SolarNova]

37 minutes ago, Luscious said:

It will be interesting to see how well this performs with F@H and if the rumors are true that MINERS will go grabbing these up the minute they go on sale. My pick is the 3090 though, but I'm guessing a water-cooled version of that card will still be north of $1400. You really had to be a fool to buy a RTX Titan at $2500 and then drop $200 more for a waterblock+backplate.

 

For anybody at nVidia reading this, I will gladly take those unsold RTX Titans off your hands at a "reduced price"

Apparently since efficiency is so important to mining, the Radion 7 is still on par with the 3080 when comparing Ethereum hash rates. So while im sure some miners will buy up 3080's i dont think all of them will.

 

From what iv seen the R7 can roughly match the 3080 but at slightly lower power, but the 3080 can go higher but requires an OC and higher power still.

 

So i guess it depedns on the individual miners situation, if power usage doesnt matter, sure they'll likely buy up 3080's , but if they are already running R7's ...i dont see the point. Their R7 have already paid for themselves.

[Koeshi]

17 hours ago, alextulu said:

What happened with the 5700 XT? Are AMD drivers that bad?

If you are referring to the tests where AMD had N/A rather than a number, most of those were CUDA tests which is Nvidia's proprietary computing implementation.  AMD uses OpenCL and very few programs will support both, typically they just support CUDA or OpenCL, so AMD literally cannot compete in a CUDA test.

 

Two takeaways I had from the video: 1. holy shit, I did not realise Radeon was that much better at CATIA.  My workplace is heavily CATIA focused and all the workstations have Nvidia cards in them, so that came as a bit of a shock.

2.  It seems wrong for Linus to primarily compare the 3080 to the 2080.  With the 3090 taking the place of the Titan it seems to me that the 3080 should be compared against the 2080 Ti, or do people think I am missing something here?

 

EDIT: ignore the second part, I re-checked the prices and I can see why you would do it that way.

[rushboarduk]

"Reflex On + Boost" likely means it is when the GPU is ramped up to its Boost Clock; increasing the framerate whilst creating more load (and thus less to play with) as a trade-off.

[CTR640]

On 9/16/2020 at 8:05 PM, Kierax said:

@LinusTechYou have impressed me, an entire video with a new product and you didn't drop it yet. 

But the RTX3080 is much cheaper than the Asus PQ22UC! How can you not be impressed he didn't drop the oled monitor??

[themrsbusta]

Maybe isn't literally twice as fast as 2080, but fast as 2x 2080 in SLI/Nvlink, like in the 1080's announcement

[dreamcat4]

For the SR-IOV feature, have now opened a ticket on the NVIDIA forums

 

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/please-suport-a-limited-version-of-sr-iov-for-geforce-on-linux/154735?u=dreamcat4

[alextulu]

On 9/17/2020 at 1:15 PM, Koeshi said:

If you are referring to the tests where AMD had N/A rather than a number, most of those were CUDA tests

But what about the games?

 

I know there are some games with Nvidia proprietary tech, but if you're using Radeon, those games should still run with those effects either disabled or running on the CPU (meaning lower performance, but should still run).