LTT Folding Team's Emergency Response to Covid-19

[leadeater]

Just now, ShortRouter said:

Wouldn't expect the whole 60k to continue but some will!

Well take in to account only 8000 entered the forum event so it's likely 52,000 have no idea it's on or when it ends etc so who knows when they will stop  

[leadeater]

Also if 60k did enter the event I'd have to

[Cas_DS]

Hy, I have a problem: my CPU is getting tasks from F@H but my GPU isn't. I'm running a GeForce MX250. Does anyone knows the solution?

[cbigfoot]

so looking at the est PPD looks like dropping my 2 xps systems processors from folding increaded PPD by approx 100k on the xps laptop its due to gpu not being thermal throttled and on the xps desktop its appears its due to either power restrictions or more likely the i7-6700k and the 2x16gb sticks where too bottle-necked and caused vcard to run at ~74-80% where it now runs around 84-88% and cpu is at 10-12% it appears.

[Ayren]

20 minutes ago, Classified101 said:

Can you walk me through it? Or give a link to a post or something?

At work sry

[leadeater]

39 minutes ago, Ayren said:

I think you have to put 
<client-type v='beta'/>
into your config file to get em...
But be warned... they do tend to be able to crash your machine every once in a while... I learned that the hard way < ->

 

22 minutes ago, Classified101 said:

Can you walk me through it? Or give a link to a post or something?

It's advanced not beta, don't use that.

 

 

FAH Advanced Control > Configure > Select Slot > Edit > Scroll Down > Add

 

 

 

 

Do it for each slot

 

[Classified101]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

 

It's advanced not beta, don't use that.

 

 

FAH Advanced Control > Configure > Select Slot > Edit > Scroll Down > Add

 

 

 

 

Do it for each slot

 

Thanks a lot!

[Ayren]

7 minutes ago, leadeater said:

 

It's advanced not beta, don't use that.

 

 

FAH Advanced Control > Configure > Select Slot > Edit > Scroll Down > Add

 

 

 

 

Do it for each slot

 

I used to do advanced (now usually neither) but why dont use beta? isnt it just basic > advanced > beta in terms of stability? 

[cbigfoot]

4 minutes ago, Ayren said:

I used to do advanced (now usually neither) but why dont use beta? isnt it just basic > advanced > beta in terms of stability? 

beta need feed back about issues in their forums per @Gorgon

[Ayren]

1 minute ago, cbigfoot said:

beta need feed back about issues in their forums per @Gorgon

ty ill refrain from that flag then

[marknd59]

Seeing as how I have a very invested interest in Covid-19 I think I need to get a bit more skin in the game. I've already put a second GUP in my current system and I've set a budget of around £1,000 to build a system to fold 24/7. I'm trying to keep costs to put most into GPU power so far I'm at around £400 - 

 

Ryzen 7 2700
Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400
EVGA BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

 

So the question is what would give me the best bang for the bucks to crunch the most WU's ? The cost works out about the same for - 

1 x MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC
or
2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING

 

Or something else I've not thought about that stays in the buget of round £600 for GPU 

 

Also need a cheap case with good airflow any ideas ?

[Ayren]

39 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

Also need a cheap case with good airflow any ideas ?

any 'ol case with one or multiple sidepanels removed
Im serious. better too much than too little airflow (consider dust and danger of things bonking against it though)

 

39 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

Ryzen 7 2700

Id recommend a Ryzen 5 3600 since youre not gonna be mining too much with the cpu anyways and youd get the benefits of the newer architecture making it potentially more usable after all this is over (where you might not let it fold 24/7)

 

 

39 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

1 x MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC
or
2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING

Doing some very crude calculations to compare the two options: BoostClock * CudaCores * NumCards 
2080 gets a score of 1800 * 2944 * 1 = ~5.3m
2x2060 get 1755 * 1920 * 2 = ~6.7m
The 2060 should get more WUs done per day but the 2080 will probably still get more PPD because of how turn-around time plays into the points you get per project
Also adjusting for (rated) power draw (225W and 2x160W respectively) by dividing the previous scores:
2080 gets 23552
2x2060 gets 21060
So the single 2080 will probably do more work for the same amount of power

Personally id choose the 2080 just because, again, you could use this thing as a pretty sweet gaming rig when youre not folding

Edit: Worded things better

Edited March 31, 2020 by Ayren

[Bitter]

7 hours ago, hydrochloric said:

Well...  I have a 7970 Dual-X and a Vega 56 AirBoost.  I'm running both as folding units, but no reason I need to be.  Hell, I'm not even registered for this competition.  Would one be useful for you?  I need one for 4k output to my TV, but you're welcome to one.

I appreciate the offer but I don't have room for anything that large at the moment and was going to purchase something more efficient. I'm sure someone else here can put it to better use.

 

If your Vega56 has Samsung memory you should absolutely get a better cooler for it and run overdriventool to overclock the card. With an appropriate cooler the V56 core usually has no problem doing 1550-1570mhz at 1125-1150mv and Samsung memory will run 900mhz if it's kept cool.

[ShortRouter]

53 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

Seeing as how I have a very invested interest in Covid-19 I think I need to get a bit more skin in the game. I've already put a second GUP in my current system and I've set a budget of around £1,000 to build a system to fold 24/7. I'm trying to keep costs to put most into GPU power so far I'm at around £400 - 

 

Ryzen 7 2700
Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400
EVGA BQ 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply

 

So the question is what would give me the best bang for the bucks to crunch the most WU's ? The cost works out about the same for - 

1 x MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB VENTUS OC
or
2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING

 

Or something else I've not thought about that stays in the buget of round £600 for GPU 

 

Also need a cheap case with good airflow any ideas ?

Dual 2060 is by far more cost efficient and produces higher scores. Use my cost efficiency calculator for RTX cards:

(card prices and kWh price is adjustable)

GPU folding optimal setup.xlsx

[Cas_DS]

Hy, I have a problem: my CPU is getting tasks from F@H but my GPU isn't. I'm running a GeForce MX250. Does anyone knows the solution?

[ShortRouter]

2 minutes ago, Cas_DS said:

Hy, I have a problem: my CPU is getting tasks from F@H but my GPU isn't. I'm running a GeForce MX250. Does anyone knows the solution?

That's ok it can take a while to start folding.

[minibois]

Just now, Cas_DS said:

Hy, I have a problem: my CPU is getting tasks from F@H but my GPU isn't. I'm running a GeForce MX250. Does anyone knows the solution?

There are just more CPU WU's out there and still not that many GPU WU's (compared to the amount of people folding out there).

Be patient and you might get a WU. If you have been waiting for a significant time (1-2 hours of idle on your GPU) you can attempt this:

1. Pause the GPU slot (right click the GPU > Pause)

2. Wait 30-40 second

3. Start the GPU slot (right click the GPU > Fold)

 

This will sometimes allow you to get a WU, but not always guaranteed.

[Ayren]

4 minutes ago, ShortRouter said:

Dual 2060 is by far more cost efficient and produces higher scores. Use my cost efficiency calculator for RTX cards:

(card prices and kWh price is adjustable)

GPU folding optimal setup.xlsx 13.3 kB · 3 downloads

Very neat excel file... what do you mean by ns? < .>

[Plexas]

3 minutes ago, Cas_DS said:

Hy, I have a problem: my CPU is getting tasks from F@H but my GPU isn't. I'm running a GeForce MX250. Does anyone knows the solution?

Right click the gpu slot, pause and unpause it. Do that every once in a while if its stuck idle for a long period. Keep in mind there isnt enough work for everyone these days, so its normal if a slot sits idle like this for a while.

[ShortRouter]

5 minutes ago, Ayren said:

Very neat excel file... what do you mean by ns? < .>

Thank you! Being bored in quarantine produces those haha. It's "nanoseconds per day", a more accurate performance measurement used by FAH Benchmark tool (https://fahbench.github.io/). PPD varies wildly because it is calculated differently based on how  "important" the current WU is. ns per day is much more comparable across different hardware.

[Ayren]

2 minutes ago, ShortRouter said:

Thank you! Being bored in quarantine produces those haha. It's "nanoseconds per day", a more accurate performance measurement used by FAH Benchmark tool. PPD varies wildly because it is calculated differently based on how  "important" the current WU. ns per day is much more comparable across different hardware.

oh so you actually ment nanoseconds... was so focused on the gamification of it all that i didnt consider the fact it was actually simulating molecules  <  . >

[hydrochloric]

2 hours ago, QuintLeo said:

I was wondering where you folks came from.

One positive - the Folding infrastructure group seem to have finally figured out how to ramp up their production of work units to work on BIG TIME over the last few days.

 

Are you planning to continue pushing on Folding after your Covid event passes?

 

For reference, I'm a fairly long time fairly big hitter from Team Curecoin - won't be joining y'all for this situation, but under the circumstances I can certainly consider your impressive response a major positive to the project as a whole. Says a lot you've managed to pass up ANONYMOUS and the DEFAULT team.

 

If any of you have questions especially on multi-card and mixed GPU type rigs under LINUX, I can probably help you sort them out.

I know my current power draw and heat output is unsustainable, but I'll probably keep one machine running from now on.

[Cas_DS]

4 minutes ago, minibois said:

There are just more CPU WU's out there and still not that many GPU WU's (compared to the amount of people folding out there).

Be patient and you might get a WU. If you have been waiting for a significant time (1-2 hours of idle on your GPU) you can attempt this:

1. Pause the GPU slot (right click the GPU > Pause)

2. Wait 30-40 second

3. Start the GPU slot (right click the GPU > Fold)

 

This will sometimes allow you to get a WU, but not always guaranteed.

It's already been a couple of days that it didn't get a task. I tried your tip but it didn't help. Tnx for helping

 

[ShortRouter]

3 minutes ago, Ayren said:

oh so you actually ment nanoseconds... im so focused on the gamification of it all that i didnt consider the fact it was actually simulating molecules  <  . >

Exactly. For me the actual scientific output matters so I chose a useful, reproducable measure. From what I heard what the researchers need is in the 100 ms range so to simulate that time a single system would need couple years. Generally higher ns per day = higher PPD.

[leadeater]

3 minutes ago, Ayren said:

oh so you actually ment nanoseconds... was so focused on the gamification of it all that i didnt consider the fact it was actually simulating molecules  <  . >