I am not an enthusiast. I'm just interested. (RANT)

[vt3c]

Lately, I've had people telling me I wasn't doing things the way they they would have done it, and that my opinions are wrong, and that I wasn't a true "enthusiast" 

A total of 6 people (not on this site).

Point is, I'm "interested" in computers. I am, by no means, an "Enthusiast".

Enthusiast seems like such an arrogant term. I am by /no/ means an enthusiast. I've built several machines starting in 2005 (the "core 2" era) until now and I know how to build a system. Parts buying to assembling to loading the OS and drivers. I find that the term enthusiast couples with the fine gentleman holding a cigar in one hand and a nice glass of brandy discussing the fineness of his top-shelf caviar grade i7 4960x machine and how it destroys the poor boy's slapped-together machine.

Anyone else feel this way?

I'm currently enrolled this next semester for computer hardware training at Century College along with my other high school electives. Should be fun.

Also, this is a good read:
http://www.amazon.com/Upgrading-Repairing-PCs-21st-Edition/dp/0789750007 

[MPX309]

I'm not a gamer, I just have a PC that happens to have games on it 

[ericlee30]

The best advice I can give, is do for you, do not worry about other opinions.

[NeatSquidYT]

Me too. People think I ask stupid questions, I recently got into this whole thing literally 2 months ago. I would say I've picked up a lot in that time, and I'm like you, I'm just incredibly interested in computers and peripherals, and wanted to take my interest and take it to the next level.

[qwertywarrior]

no.

you're wrong

[BonBon Scott]

I like being called "Enthusiast" because it sounds highbrow.

[Trik'Stari]

I know somewhat how you feel. Lately people on this forum have been bitching about topics in off topic, not being about Tech..................

 

 

it's off topic?

 

Also I know want to start an enthusiasts gentleman's club, cigars, brandy, tophats, and smoking jackets required. (note you only puff on cigars you don't inhale them usually)

[werto165]

@vt3c That link doesn't work. Enthusiast has connotations that you'd have an expensive PC, you can still be interested without top of the range hardware, we should embrace others who are interested and share knowledge as we all go along.

[helping]

ur opinions are wrong

[Vacsol]

I prefer the term "hobbyist"

it implies that I dedicate a portion of my free time towards it, but not in a snobbish way.

[dalekphalm]

Lately, I've had people telling me I wasn't doing things the way they they would have done it, and that my opinions are wrong, and that I wasn't a true "enthusiast" 

A total of 6 people (not on this site).

Point is, I'm "interested" in computers. I am, by no means, an "Enthusiast".

Enthusiast seems like such an arrogant term. I am by /no/ means an enthusiast. I've built several machines starting in 2005 (the "core 2" era) until now and I know how to build a system. Parts buying to assembling to loading the OS and drivers. I find that the term enthusiast couples with the fine gentleman holding a cigar in one hand and a nice glass of brandy discussing the fineness of his top-shelf caviar grade i7 4960x machine and how it destroys the poor boy's slapped-together machine.

Anyone else feel this way?

I'm currently enrolled this next semester for computer hardware training at Century College along with my other high school electives. Should be fun.

Also, this is a good read:

http://www.amazon.com/Upgrading-Repairing-PCs-21st-Edition/dp/0789750007 

 

 

Me too. People think I ask stupid questions, I recently got into this whole thing literally 2 months ago. I would say I've picked up a lot in that time, and I'm like you, I'm just incredibly interested in computers and peripherals, and wanted to take my interest and take it to the next level.

 

I would say to both of you that a true Enthusiast would never treat you like you've been treated. Here at LTT especially, we're extremely noob friendly because we were ALL noobs at one point. Even Bill Gates! What you encountered was a fanatical elitist #pcmasterrace fanboy douche. Unfortunately they are a very loud vocal minority of the PC Enthusiast community. The whole point of the Enthusiast community is that we love PC's and PC parts, and want to share our love with each other and enlighten/educate/help people who don't have the knowledge we do.

 

Whoever said you ask stupid questions is frankly an ass and doesn't represent us. Unfortunately because of the whole #pcmasterrace thing, it gives true enthusiasts a bad name and reputation.

[xXxYOLOxSWAGxXx_420BlazeIt]

Lately, I've had people telling me I wasn't doing things the way they they would have done it, and that my opinions are wrong, and that I wasn't a true "enthusiast" 

A total of 6 people (not on this site).

Point is, I'm "interested" in computers. I am, by no means, an "Enthusiast".

Enthusiast seems like such an arrogant term. I am by /no/ means an enthusiast. I've built several machines starting in 2005 (the "core 2" era) until now and I know how to build a system. Parts buying to assembling to loading the OS and drivers. I find that the term enthusiast couples with the fine gentleman holding a cigar in one hand and a nice glass of brandy discussing the fineness of his top-shelf caviar grade i7 4960x machine and how it destroys the poor boy's slapped-together machine.

Anyone else feel this way?

I'm currently enrolled this next semester for computer hardware training at Century College along with my other high school electives. Should be fun.

Also, this is a good read:

http://www.amazon.com/Upgrading-Repairing-PCs-21st-Edition/dp/0789750007 

I dont know why so many people care about other peoples opinions. Buy the shit you want to buy, dont buy it because people told you what to buy. Ive noticed a lot of people here, particularly in the audio section are just retarded/'autistic'.

 

 

 

Look at this thread. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/188571-headphone-dac-amp-for-under-%C2%A3150

EmoRarity and SSL are telling me how bad stuff is without giving any actual reasons. These are the sort of people you ignore.

[dalekphalm]

I know somewhat how you feel. Lately people on this forum have been bitching about topics in off topic, not being about Tech..................

 

 

it's off topic?

 

Also I know want to start an enthusiasts gentleman's club, cigars, brandy, tophats, and smoking jackets required. (note you only puff on cigars you don't inhale them usually)

I do agree that Off Topic is for any discussion topics:

It literally says right there:

Off Topic

Discussion - Non-tech related content only please! New members can say Hi here.

NON-TECH RELATED CONTENT ONLY PLEASE! Just for emphasis. It literally says this is the place for non-tech discussions.

 

However, I do not agree that the Off-Topic subforum should be unmoderated. I believe it should definitely be moderated and that the subforum still 100% adheres to the CoC. So any offensive, insulting, etc, content should be moderated.

 

With that in mind, if there is a mod that is closing threads specifically because they aren't tech related, then I STRONGLY SUGGEST that you report said mod to another Mod or Admin (Including Slick/Linus if it continues to happen). Moderators are here to help us and keep the forum friendly, NOT here to abuse their power.

[Fulgrim]

I dont know why so many people care about other peoples opinions. Buy the shit you want to buy, dont buy it because people told you what to buy. Ive noticed a lot of people here, particularly in the audio section are just retarded/'autistic'.

 

 

 

Look at this thread. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/188571-headphone-dac-amp-for-under-%C2%A3150

EmoRarity and SSL are telling me how bad stuff is without giving any actual reasons. These are the sort of people you ignore.

 

Fanboyism at it's finest.

*edit* one is emo, the other is a brony, top kek

[Vitalius]

it gives true enthusiasts a bad name and reputation.

That's the thing though. They are enthusiasts. They are just asses. 

I'm American. There are Americans who are asses. That doesn't mean I'm an ass or not an American.

That's just how life is. But I'm definitely an enthusiast. Not a hobbyist, or "interested", but an enthusiast. 

The difference between those is that someone who is just interested learns about it and does it in a limited capacity (i.e. not a lot of free time dedicated to it). A hobbyist dedicates large amounts of free time to it learning stuff (thus it being a hobby), but still does it in a limited capacity (build one computer each year).

Enthusiasts are people who dedicate their free time to it, and do it in large capacities (I've built 50 computers this year, 4 servers, a networking setup, and I could go on). 

I rank it like this:

"Interested"

Hobbyist

Enthusiast

Work Career (i.e. you do it as your job).

Those are the differences as I personally define them using my own logic & reason.

[DeViLzzz]

en·thu·si·ast

 

noun\-ˌast, -əst\

: a person who feels enthusiasm for something : a person who enjoys something very much




With that definition I think the OP is wrong in how he perceives what an enthusiast is.

[vt3c]

That's the thing though. They are enthusiasts. They are just asses. 

I'm American. There are Americans who are asses. That doesn't mean I'm an ass or not an American.

That's just how life is. But I'm definitely an enthusiast. Not a hobbyist, or "interested", but an enthusiast. 

The difference between those is that someone who is just interested learns about it and does it in a limited capacity (i.e. not a lot of free time dedicated to it). A hobbyist dedicates large amounts of free time to it learning stuff (thus it being a hobby), but still does it in a limited capacity (build one computer each year).

Enthusiasts are people who dedicate their free time to it, and do it in large capacities (I've built 50 computers this year, 4 servers, a networking setup, and I could go on). 

I rank it like this:

"Interested"

Hobbyist

Enthusiast

Work Career (i.e. you do it as your job).

Those are the differences as I personally define them using my own logic & reason.

Well I built my rig. I am extremely strapped for cash currently until I get a job and graduate. But once I get some cash flowing I'll build computers as a hobby. 

[Trik'Stari]

I do agree that Off Topic is for any discussion topics:

It literally says right there:

NON-TECH RELATED CONTENT ONLY PLEASE! Just for emphasis. It literally says this is the place for non-tech discussions.

 

However, I do not agree that the Off-Topic subforum should be unmoderated. I believe it should definitely be moderated and that the subforum still 100% adheres to the CoC. So any offensive, insulting, etc, content should be moderated.

 

With that in mind, if there is a mod that is closing threads specifically because they aren't tech related, then I STRONGLY SUGGEST that you report said mod to another Mod or Admin (Including Slick/Linus if it continues to happen). Moderators are here to help us and keep the forum friendly, NOT here to abuse their power.

Extremely hard to do, as I have no way of knowing who keeps doing it. It's actually really annoying to me because it's generally a thread I'd like to participate in, and by the time I hit reply, the friggin thing is gone.

[juretrn]

Why do you even care?

I can also put spinners and a giant turbo on a Xsara Picasso if I really want to, no matter what others say...

Do things as you want to, not others.

[Jaybird]

dont care about your rant.

[dalekphalm]

Extremely hard to do, as I have no way of knowing who keeps doing it. It's actually really annoying to me because it's generally a thread I'd like to participate in, and by the time I hit reply, the friggin thing is gone.

Frankly in that case, I'd send a comprehensive, yet courteous message to Whaler or Slick/Linus (Or all of them? I'm not sure if you can do group messages). Lay out, with as much detail as you can remember, what threads they were, why you think they were closed, and why you think that it's harmful to our community.

 

Then the Mods can evaluate the situation and potentially discover who is being a little overzealous.

[dalekphalm]

I dont know why so many people care about other peoples opinions. Buy the shit you want to buy, dont buy it because people told you what to buy. Ive noticed a lot of people here, particularly in the audio section are just retarded/'autistic'.

 

 

 

Look at this thread. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/188571-headphone-dac-amp-for-under-%C2%A3150

EmoRarity and SSL are telling me how bad stuff is without giving any actual reasons. These are the sort of people you ignore.

I checked out that thread, and damn, those two were being total asses. I replied to the post, and Emo's reply was "cute". It's like he just doesn't give a shit about anyone else or how he interacts with them?

[dalekphalm]

dont care about your rant.

Great contribution Honestly though, for my own curiosity, why bother to go through the effort to post this? If there is a particular reason or logic behind it, I'd be interesting in knowing.

[Trik'Stari]

I checked out that thread, and damn, those two were being total asses. I replied to the post, and Emo's reply was "cute". It's like he just doesn't give a shit about anyone else or how he interacts with them?

Welcome to the internet. I've already got my ignore list up to 3 people now.

 

That being said, there are asses out there. Try to ignore them. Just as I try to ignore the people who naysay every single one of my suggestions for the forums (OC subsection and 2 wan's a week instead of 1), just because they

A. "Don't have time to watch 1 WAN show let alone 2 a week"

B. "Don't see a need" other than the randomly posted overclocking questions that seem to pop up just about anywhere

 

Seems like some people enjoy saying no just to say no.

 

 

 

Great contribution Honestly though, for my own curiosity, why bother to go through the effort to post this? If there is a particular reason or logic behind it, I'd be interesting in knowing.

Meh, it was slightly comical/trolling.

[dalekphalm]

Welcome to the internet. I've already got my ignore list up to 3 people now.

 

That being said, there are asses out there. Try to ignore them. Just as I try to ignore the people who naysay every single one of my suggestions for the forums (OC subsection and 2 wan's a week instead of 1), just because they

A. "Don't have time to watch 1 WAN show let alone 2 a week"

B. "Don't see a need" other than the randomly posted overclocking questions that seem to pop up just about anywhere

 

Seems like some people enjoy saying no just to say no.

 

 

 

Meh, it was slightly comical/trolling.

Personally, I'd be totally down for an OC subforum. We could post a sticky of "Your best OC" for example. Yes, the CPU subforum currently serves that purpose, but that subforum is also thrown in with Motherboard and RAM too. I think a dedicated OC subforum is a great idea.

 

As for the two WAN shows a week, I can definitely see the appeal to doing so, but ultimately that decision firmly remains in Linus' and Slicks' court. Though users who give those two reasons, well those are just their opinions, and they shouldn't attack yours just because you would enjoy multiple WAN shows.