HOW is THIS for Gamers??

[Emily Young]

(I accidentally an early premiere, so uh, hey guys)

 

Is your Coffee Lake getting cold? Good news! Intel’s refreshing it. Are you ready for 8 cores and a new, even more confusing naming scheme?

NOTE: Please see the pinned comment for more detailed board settings.

 

 

Buy an Intel Core i9 9900K:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/9xGjSPz
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV8m

 

Buy an ASUS Maximus XI Hero:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/lHPt
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV8P

 

Buy a Ryzen 7 2700 instead:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/LzDhuF1
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV81

 

Or get a Core i7 8700K as the actually available Intel option:
On Amazon: http://geni.us/OQ8ElGN
On Newegg: https://lmg.gg/8KV8W

[aezakmi]

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Buy a Ryzen 7 2700 instead

That's the idea but I'll need to get rid of the coffee first.

[Streetguru]

Still have to delid it for overclockers
 

 

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Still have to delid it for overclockers

 

You can overclock without delidding.

You only need to delid if you're trying to push 5.3GHz or stuff like that.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

You can overclock without delidding.

You only need to delid if you're trying to push 5.3GHz or stuff like that.

I also made a mistake, you have to delid it AND grind down the die

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

I also made a mistake, you have to delid it AND grind down the die

You don't HAVE to do that either.

That's only if you want to get the maximum temperature improvement.

You can still get a very significant temperature reduction by simply delidding and using liquid metal.

 

Did you even watch the video or are you trying to find every possible reason to hate on the CPU?

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Enderman said:

 

I said for overclockers

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I said for overclockers

So you think that "overclockers" means everyone overclocking is trying to get a world record running liquid nitrogen?

 

Well, actually no, most "overclockers" are normal people who overclock their CPU by a few hundred MHz with a good air or liquid cooler in order to get a bit more performance out of it.

Almost all of these people have never delidded a CPU before.

Delidding and lapping is something only very few people do in order to try breaking world records.

 

Maybe the word you're looking for is "extreme overclockers" or "competitive overclockers", which is like 0.00001% of people who overclock.

[samcool55]

1 detail i miss in this review is that the 9900k doesn't have a cooler while the 2700x does.

 

Might not be a big deal but this only widens the price gap. I mean if you need a somewhat decent aircooler for the 9900k that easily costs 30-40 bucks, it's an important detail to keep in mind.

 

[SolarNova]

Another 'generation' and i use that term loosly here, and yet another reason not to upgrade from my trusty 3930k.

 

I mean seriosly, for gaming , an i7 sandybridge with a good OC .. maybe 4.8-5ghz, or 4.6-4.8ghz for a 6c/12t chip, is more than capable even now.

 

When i do finaly build my 24/7 liquid subzero rig, i currently see no reaosn why i shouldnt just use my current setup and upgrade the GPU to an SLi setup. There is nothing enticing about upgrading the CPU currently....7 friggn 'generations' of CPU have released .. u'd think it would be worth it by now.

[williamcll]

Makes me wonder why Intel doesn't just clock the chip higher by default if the power consumption and heat is so low.

[WihGlah]

9900k is a monster chip. It's expensive because there is more silicon. We asked for 16 thread and we got it. You pays your money and takes your choice. 

 

I have one - the thermals are not nearly as bad as the reviewers have said. Mine is at 5Ghz in the low 60's under 100% non AVX load. (with very little tuning)

 

 

 

 

[Hunter259]

These last few titles and thumbnails have been absolutely terrible.

[Sauron]

Nice rundown, but I think the price difference percentages were given in a slightly misleading way (although everyone can do the math themselves). When you say the i9 is "40% more expensive" than the 2700x what you actually mean is that the 2700x is 40% cheaper. The i9 is closer to being 60% more expensive than the 2700x because, when you frame it that way, the price of the 2700x should be taken as reference. That's a minor complaint though.

[Paddi01]

is the 8700k still the best gaming cpu?

[Canada EH]

I laughed at his facial expression LOL

 

If I was new, I wouldnt take Linus or any of his video's seriously.

 

Knowing Intel, I am sure it will be a good cpu for gamers, if the reviews say no its not better then another cpu for gaming, then just buy that cpu then.

[WihGlah]

32 minutes ago, Paddi01 said:

is the 8700k still the best gaming cpu?

Depends how you feel about deliding.

 

With the 9900K you probably wont have to.

 

It would be interesting to see the SIL Quality of the LTT 9900K.

[Ethan2163]

I really enjoy Linus’s take on CPU reviews.   Many reviews tend to just note the spec sheets then maybe a hint of opinion thrown in. Linus not only shows the specs but he truely shows the real world tests. GamersNexus also does a great job of this. The reviews are thorough and well made. As for the 9900k specifically I have mixed feelings. The raw performance is unmatched for any 8 core processor and no one denies that. Price/Performance ratio has never been on intel’s mind and I think they’re fine with it. Having ‘the best’ CPU really brings attention and more importantly sales. AMD is still the master of budget options and likely will be for the foreseeable future. Intel and AMD seem to have found their corners and probably won’t test their boundaries until Zen 2. Even then, who knows.

[Enderman]

1 hour ago, Paddi01 said:

is the 8700k still the best gaming cpu?

No...... watch the video.

The 9900K is.

[Ethan2163]

1 hour ago, Paddi01 said:

is the 8700k still the best gaming cpu?

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: The benefit, much like the previous several years are minimal. It’ll be a few years until games become more multithreaded. If you still have a 6700k or even a Haswell based cpu, upgrading won’t do a huge improvement. Especially a $600 improvement.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 hours ago, Paddi01 said:

is the 8700k still the best gaming cpu?

If you really, really want a Team Blue system then it's the best value but the i9-9900K is Better^TM

[Paddi01]

49 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

If you really, really want a Team Blue system then it's the best value but the i9-9900K is Better^TM

I don't plan to buy anything, it was just a general question

[HimymCZe]

I feel like both; the name of this video and its content TOTALLY miss the expected mark.
I was expecting something in the neighborhood of "if you are a gamer, there is no need to have more then i5 now. ESPECIALLY now with >$9000 price tag.
... and if you are an entrepreneur, 2700x is a clear choice."

[Canada EH]

3 hours ago, Ethan2163 said:

just note the spec sheets

Yes, people are lazy and I would say even Linus and his team are lazy when it comes to reporting to their viewers.

[it_dont_work]

I guess its a compelling sell in Australia minda...maybe, only because the i9 9900k is currently cheaper than the i7 8700k