Threadripper 2 Retails for $1835?

[Taf the Ghost]

15 hours ago, Swatson said:

Interestingly, the TDP for the 2950x is MUCH lower than the 1950x, at least from the leaks we have. 125W vs 180W but the base clock is also lower..... not exactly sure why they would do this but I can see them trying to fit the 16core into OEM workstations with tighter thermal envelopes

 

https://videocardz.com/76872/hwbot-adds-amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990x-2970x-and-2950x

Given the base clocks might be a tad lower, and thus right in the efficiency range of the process, that isn't the biggest surprise.

[MMKing]

Some news from a fairly unpopular source

https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amds-threadripper-2990x-4-ghz-on-air-new-wraith-coolers/

 

''AMD recently held a Threadripper 2 event in Maranello and while we weren’t considered good enough to be invited by the company – we do have some great news coming-in from the event that we aren’t bound by an NDA to not-share (good luck unravelling this sentence): AMD is introducing new Wraith Ripper coolers that will allow its flagship processor, the Threadripper 2990X/WX to hit 4.0 GHz on all cores on air. This is an absolutely incredible feat and is a subtle pun at the recent Intel debacle regarding the 28-core and the aquarium chiller.''

 

If you don't care to read the article in it's entirety, this is pretty much the gist of it.

 

A picture of the cooler in question from computex June 2018. I believe cooler master and/or AMD made it clear that the cooler will be sold separately and distributed by Cooler Master.

Spoiler

 

[S w a t s o n]

38 minutes ago, MMKing said:

Some news from a fairly unpopular source

https://wccftech.com/exclusive-amds-threadripper-2990x-4-ghz-on-air-new-wraith-coolers/

 

''AMD recently held a Threadripper 2 event in Maranello and while we weren’t considered good enough to be invited by the company – we do have some great news coming-in from the event that we aren’t bound by an NDA to not-share (good luck unravelling this sentence): AMD is introducing new Wraith Ripper coolers that will allow its flagship processor, the Threadripper 2990X/WX to hit 4.0 GHz on all cores on air. This is an absolutely incredible feat and is a subtle pun at the recent Intel debacle regarding the 28-core and the aquarium chiller.''

 

If you don't care to read the article in it's entirety, this is pretty much the gist of it.

 

A picture of the cooler in question from computex June 2018. I believe cooler master and/or AMD made it clear that the cooler will be sold separately and distributed by Cooler Master.

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Nice, I had heard about this event last month but no update when the date came and went

[MMKing]

I'm guessing it will hit stores at most a week before TR2

[The Benjamins]

37 minutes ago, Swatson said:

Nice, I had heard about this event last month but no update when the date came and went

seems like a press briefing event, so reviewers should have or will have soon some TR2000s CPUs to test. which means we are very close, and should expect a full reveal event in a week or so (my prediction)

[MMKing]

I'm not gonna look too much into this. This is likely a carefully selected chip, and the cooler is by no means discrete. it's still nice AMD saw the lack of TR4 sized coolers on the market and decided to do something about it. While on the subject, are there any liquid TR4 coolers around?

[S w a t s o n]

4 minutes ago, MMKing said:

I'm not gonna look too much into this. This is likely a carefully selected chip, and the cooler is by no means discrete. it's still nice AMD saw the lack of TR4 sized coolers on the market and decided to do something about it. While on the subject, are there any liquid TR4 coolers around?

TR is the top 5% of zepplin dies, so yes, but not quite the same as binning a monolithic die. Due to the fact that Ryzen 7 2700x can do 4.1GHz basically for free, if they took those same dies it should still hit 4.1

 

 

Enermax for sure makes a TR4 AIO, I think there is others though

[Marinatall_Ironside]

On 7/29/2018 at 7:55 AM, Princess Cadence said:

We all know 99% of the people in here and pretty damn much the same % of people in the market in general does not need 32 cores for a workstation.

 

It is far too much even if you mega-task and use good multi-threaded applications, this is for extremely specific software/user case, even if you have the money to burn it won't make sense as lets pick both Adobe Premiere and Vegas the 2 most used video editing software in the world right now... both can hardware accelerate using the iGPU now so technically the upcoming i9 9900K 8c/16t with Intel HD 730 graphics will outperform (or at least match) this 32 cores behemoth in this content creation software.

 

The i7 8700K already is matching the current 16 cores 1950X making the extra expanses for video editing needless:

 

The impact when hardware acceleration using iGPU is enable right now ^

 

So yeah as usual lots of people acting like core count is all there is to it, acting like Intel is doomed and can't compete to it... shrugs talk about AMD orientated Forum.

You have to remember everyone's use cases are different. For Gamers Nexus, their use environment is different from someone else's like Linus Media Group, or even a movie production studio. Not one group uses their hardware and software the same as another.

[The Benjamins]

32 minutes ago, Jurunce said:

You have to remember everyone's use cases are different. For Gamers Nexus, their use environment is different from someone else's like Linus Media Group, or even a movie production studio. Not one group uses their hardware and software the same as another.

Also this test does not talk about time line performance, I saw a video going over how hardware acceleration only helps rendering not time line scrubbing so for editing the 8700k is the worst out of a x299, TR, 2700x. 

[Matsozetex]

Enermax Liqtech TR4 coolers were specific as well. 

[Taf the Ghost]

8 hours ago, Jurunce said:

You have to remember everyone's use cases are different. For Gamers Nexus, their use environment is different from someone else's like Linus Media Group, or even a movie production studio. Not one group uses their hardware and software the same as another.

 

8 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

Also this test does not talk about time line performance, I saw a video going over how hardware acceleration only helps rendering not time line scrubbing so for editing the 8700k is the worst out of a x299, TR, 2700x. 

Yup. Even in the piece, GN said the acceleration was mostly because of all of the Graphs they use. The entire debate still goes back to Adobe's really bad implementation of the h.264 encoder & scheduling it within the program. But that's always been Adobe's MO with their programs. 

 

I bring up optimizing for CS:GO a lot, in these types of discussions, because what you're actually trying to do is break the Game Engine to run fast as possible. With Adobe products, it runs under the same set of principles. They just do not scale properly with system resources, and these are "professional" products. In the case of Premiere, the Intel Desktop CPUs work better for 1080p video & below, when operating within h.264 or x264. Outside of that, more cores are better.

[fringie]

Someone buy me one plzzzzzzzzzzzz. I need to watch 420 episodes of anime at the same time

[Ithanul]

On 7/31/2018 at 8:11 PM, MMKing said:

While on the subject, are there any liquid TR4 coolers around?

Yes, EK got around to doing a proper water block after that crap they pulled with the first one.  Heatkiller though has a very good block for the TR4 platform (nabbing one here soon for my TR).  AIOs, I have not looked at, so not sure of how many are out there, but there probably one or two.

[The Benjamins]

Coolest CPU packaging ever.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2000-packaging-unveiled

[Taf the Ghost]

1 hour ago, The Benjamins said:

Coolest CPU packaging ever.

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2000-packaging-unveiled

Okay, that's awesome.

[leadeater]

7 hours ago, Taf the Ghost said:

Okay, that's awesome.

Why did you buy your CPU?

I liked the box it came in.

[mynameisjuan]

10 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Why did you buy your CPU?

I liked the box it came in.

Buy the CPU for the box, sell the CPU....worth it

[Taf the Ghost]

18 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Why did you buy your CPU?

I liked the box it came in.

Credit to AMD for making the HEDT space an actual "premium" type of market approach. At least for Threadripper, they get where to put the marketing approach. Such as bringing a bunch of Tech Journalists to Italy to drive Ferraris. 

[Taf the Ghost]

Per a Gamer's Nexus news video, apparently the information embargo ends on Monday for TR2. Or maybe it's just the unboxing. We'll find out soon enough.

[MMKing]

@Taf the Ghost A recent Guru3D article hinted a preview of the product the 6th of August. So it's likely just an unboxing embargo or something like that, with a followup test result embargo following later on.