Threadripper 2 Retails for $1835?

[IntMD]

They just did a straight conversion from CAD to USD? Judging from how much Canadians normally say their prices suck compared to US prices, I fully expect that to be 1499-1599 USD.

[Nicnac]

You can already find the 1950x for around 500-600$ used in Germany. I can't wait to build a TR system in like a year or so for 1000$ total 

[Nicnac]

15 hours ago, Ithanul said:

Agree, I have two TRs, and I don't even fully load them out.  The biggest issue I have come across is when users who want to use ESXi.  This tends to be be hit and miss on the TR platform based upon the motherboard in use (got lucky when I bought an used ASUS Prime X399-A as that will play ball with ESXi).  Hopefully the TR2s and the new motherboards will get better support with that type of software.

U HAS 2?? 

 

Spoiler

(all running world community grid I hope ^^)

[Salacious B Crum]

1 minute ago, Nicnac said:

You can already find the 1950x for around 500-600$ used in Germany. I can't wait to build a TR system in like a year or so for 1000$ total 

It was on sale for $600 new a week ago at micro center now back at $699

[Nicnac]

4 minutes ago, mrbilky said:

It was on sale for $600 new a week ago at micro center now back at $699

yea I saw that they had some sort of inventory clearing promotion. But it wasn't for Germany unfortunately.

[TheRandomness]

On 29/07/2018 at 10:18 AM, AluminiumTech said:

You can put the /joke at the end of the post. Others might not think you're joking.

 

In case you're not joking, your math is incorrect as every core in Ryzen and Threadripper acts like a real core.

There is nothing to debate with Ryzen and Threadripper, they both use real cores.

 

?

Bulldozer and some other old AMD architectures used cores which performed about twice as slowly as real Intel cores.

His post was sarcastic. 

[The Benjamins]

https://videocardz.com/76872/hwbot-adds-amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990x-2970x-and-2950x

 

 

HWBOT adds AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2990X, 2970X and 2950X

 

It is interesting that the 2950x has a 125w TDP and a lower clock then the 1950x (with the TDP it makes sense) and only the 2990x will have the 250w TDP rating.

 

I think AMD mentioned in a interview that a 16c or less configs would be 2 dies vs 4 dies. (active)

 

EDIT:

https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx

https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2970wx

https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2950x

https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2920x

[Speed Weed]

On 7/28/2018 at 11:11 PM, Crab Puncher said:

Even though the price says $2,400 that is in CAD and that is $1,835USD

 

AMD is having quite the umm... not losing streak? With Ryzen gen 1 they rose back from Bulldozer past with a punch. But with there desktop Ryzen gen 2 chips looking like a refresh that we are all to familiar with, (cough) Intel. It doesn't look the same for there higher end counter parts. "Threadripper 2990X flagship processor was recently spotted listed at a Canadian retailer" It is said to be a 32 core 64 thread processor with a price tag of $1,835 which is incomparable to anything Intel has to offer, at least when it comes to core count. The nearest Intel chip is the i9 7980XE with only 18 cores and a price tag of $1,879. The new Threadripper 2 chips are cheaper with almost double the cores. But there is a caveat, your going to need one hell of a cooler to tame this 250W beast.

 

 

Source: wccftech.com

 

WDF the price man. 

[leadeater]

1 hour ago, The Benjamins said:

It is interesting that the 2950x has a 125w TDP and a lower clock then the 1950x (with the TDP it makes sense) and only the 2990x will have the 250w TDP rating.

Nice I was hoping there was going to be a 2 die TR2 SKU so we could do direct TR1 vs TR2 comparisons.

[The Benjamins]

2 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Nice I was hoping there was going to be a 2 die TR2 SKU so we could do direct TR1 vs TR2 comparisons.

I think anything under 16c will be 2 dies, so AMD can avoid latency issues as much as they can.

 

Also the wx seems odd to me on the amd.com pages, maybe we will get workstation version or those to are workstation grade with official ECC

[leadeater]

8 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

I think anything under 16c will be 2 dies, so AMD can avoid latency issues as much as they can.

 

Also the wx seems odd to me on the amd.com pages, maybe we will get workstation version or those to are workstation grade with official ECC

I was just worried there was going to be no updated 16 core parts only bigger ones, race for cores and CB scores without bringing the Zen+ benefits down to more sane parts. The 16 core TR2 is an extremely important thing to be looking at, it's the one that is going to show the real Zen+ improvements in relation to the IF and MCM designs.

[The Benjamins]

3 minutes ago, leadeater said:

I was just worried there was going to be no updated 16 core parts only bigger ones, race for scores and CB scores without bringing the Zen+ benefits down to more sane parts. The 16 core TR2 is an extremely important thing to be looking at, it's the one that is going to show the real Zen+ improvements in relation to the IF and MCM designs.

I think the 2920x can be a really nice part, if it is on the low end for price it would make a nice entry CPU for a HEDT system.

The pricing I want to see

2990x $1500

2970x $1100

2950x $800

2920x $500

[Nicnac]

so the 2920X is the new 1950X with lower tdp and slightly lower clock?

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Nicnac said:

so the 2920X is the new 1950X with lower tdp and slightly lower clock?

2950X is the 1950X replacement, looks like AMD just dropped the 8 core SKU in the update since it really was pointless.

[The Benjamins]

1 minute ago, Nicnac said:

so the 2920X is the new 1950X with lower tdp and slightly lower clock?

no the 2950x is the 16c which replaces the 1950x, but has a 300Mhz lower base, with a 125w TDP vs 180w.

 

Boost clocks are still unknown

[The Benjamins]

Newest leak shows the 2990x has a 4.1Ghz boost clock

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx-cpu-z-screenshot-leaks-out

[grimreeper132]

On 29/07/2018 at 4:31 AM, schwellmo92 said:

I honestly don’t think cooling this thing is going to be as bad as people think. For example we’ve already had the FX-9590 which was 220w TDP and that cooled fine, and also people are managing to cool the 7980XE with its shitty TIM. You also have to take in to account that the Threadripper CPU has a lot of surface area to spread its heat over.

it will be possible to cool it, just air cooling might be slightly out of the question, and the large IHS as you said will help alot. The only thing I can say for certain is you don't wanna be using a CPU cooler which isn't designed for TR, like you will need to use stuff like the Enermax Liqtech TR4 etc. the coolers actually designed for the CPUs rather than just any off the shelf component, in other words you will need to think about how to cool it rather than just guessing/winging it

[grimreeper132]

19 minutes ago, leadeater said:

2950X is the 1950X replacement, looks like AMD just dropped the 8 core SKU in the update since it really was pointless.

it wasn't pointless, as it did have some improvements over the normal ryzen 8 cores, quad channel, more PCIe lanes and slightly higher base clocks, (it wasn't the i5 7640x or the i7 7740x) that being said yea it was not that much cheaper than the 1920X so was very rarely used with people normally just going for that (like myself) 

[leadeater]

4 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

it wasn't pointless, as it did have some improvements over the normal ryzen 8 cores, quad channel, more PCIe lanes and slightly higher base clocks, that being said yea it was not that much cheaper than the 1920X so was very rarely used with people normally just going for that (like myself) 

Is was pointless in the respect that there was no reason not to get the 1920X with all the extra cost involved in going X399 anyway. If you need Quad Channel memory and that many PCie lanes you probably could also use the 12 cores.

 

Pointless wasn't meant as no benefits over Ryzen 1700/1800/2700 it was just pointless to actually buy it even with what it had extra.

[grimreeper132]

Just now, leadeater said:

Is was pointless in the respect that there was no reason not to get the 1920X with all the extra cost involved in going X399 anyway. If you need Quad Channel memory and that many PCie lanes you probably could also use the 12 cores.

 

Pointless wasn't meant as no benefits over Ryzen 1700/1800/2700 it was just pointless to actually buy it even with what it had extra.

oh I agree with you there, I mean I am sure there is a reason that someone found them useful and bought them (same with W series CPUs from intel, mainly because ECC for them) but yea

[MMKing]

New info on AMD support page

 

2990WX - https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx

 

2970WX - https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2970wx

 

2950X - https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2950x

 

2920X - https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-processors/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2920x

 

Seems we are getting the 12 core ''cheap'' option. I'm a bit curious if the ''W'' has any noteworthy meaning, or if it's just added for marketing purposes.

 

Edit: As in, no new info to speak of. The pages are generic, but the existence of the URLs confirm the existence of the 2920x. Which following the logic that the 2950X is the 16 core replacement for the 1950x. The 2920x is probably the 12 core replacement for the 1920x.

[Salacious B Crum]

17 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

oh I agree with you there, I mean I am sure there is a reason that someone found them useful and bought them (same with W series CPUs from intel, mainly because ECC for them) but yea

Was a good option for a NAS where you did not need cores over PCIe lanes I am out of PCIe lanes on my unRAID server i7 6700 and running a 10GBe nic a sound card a GPU and 1-2 HBA's is out of the question so in some respects it was a good offering simply for the fact that if you did run a NAS on it's platform and you decided to improve upon that at a later date plopping a 1920x or 1950x would improve your options such as running VM's and Dockers but it sure is a stepchild in most use cases

[Brooksie359]

On 7/29/2018 at 9:25 AM, LukaH said:

32c/64t for ~1800$ seems reasonable to me, can't wait for the launch. Not that I have the need for that many cores just looking forward to reviews.

Intel was selling 10 core cpus for that price not that long ago with the 6950x. 32 cores for 1800 is an extremely good deal for what you get. This cpu has more cores than Intel's flag ship Xeon that costs 10000 with 28 cores. I mean it is a consumer product so it doenst have some of the things a commercial cpu would have but for the price it is definitely a good deal. But you will also need a reason to have 32 cores to justify it as well. 

[MMKing]

Correction, the MSRP of the 28 core Xeon 8176 CPU is about 8719 dollars. It clocks at 2.1GHZ all core, and 3.8GHZ single core.

[Brooksie359]

On 7/29/2018 at 9:55 AM, Princess Cadence said:

We all know 99% of the people in here and pretty damn much the same % of people in the market in general does not need 32 cores for a workstation.

 

It is far too much even if you mega-task and use good multi-threaded applications, this is for extremely specific software/user case, even if you have the money to burn it won't make sense as lets pick both Adobe Premiere and Vegas the 2 most used video editing software in the world right now... both can hardware accelerate using the iGPU now so technically the upcoming i9 9900K 8c/16t with Intel HD 730 graphics will outperform (or at least match) this 32 cores behemoth in this content creation software.

 

The i7 8700K already is matching the current 16 cores 1950X making the extra expanses for video editing needless:

 

The impact when hardware acceleration using iGPU is enable right now ^

 

So yeah as usual lots of people acting like core count is all there is to it, acting like Intel is doomed and can't compete to it... shrugs talk about AMD orientated Forum.

Sometimes people buy things for illogical reasons. I mean the 6950x apparently sold quite well even though it made no sense price wise as it cost 700 USD for 2 extra cores. Same goes for the nvidia titan. Sometimes people buy top if the line hardware just because they can. I think this might be similar to the whale theory for microtransactions. There are people out there who will buy this just because the enthusiast in them wants it. Or maybe people will find ways to use such hardware now that it's more accessible.