2018 Macbook Pro Touchbar has NO Data Recovery Port!

[79wjd]

 

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otherwise expect to lose it. 

Which should be the expectation regardless of literally everything else.

[schwellmo92]

8 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

The new 13" MacBook Pros have stronger graphics and more powerful CPUs in them because Apple allows them to really open up. 

Dell actually lost the battle this year. 

As far as I can see the 13” MBP also uses Intel UHD graphics. Which config has a dedicated GPU?

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

As far as I can see the 13” MBP also uses Intel UHD graphics

The 13" MacBook Pros use Intel Iris graphics. Significantly better than UHD. 

[schwellmo92]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The 13" MacBook Pros use Intel Iris graphics. Significantly better than UHD. 

Ah you’re right, they use SKU’s I’ve never seen before, higher base clocks and more EU’s for the graphics, pretty nice actually. Are you sure the MBP 13” battery life is comparable to the 13” XPS? The MBP uses a 28w processor whereas the XPS uses a 15w.

[DeScruff]

On 7/23/2018 at 6:05 PM, DrMacintosh said:

Time Machine! Time Machine! Time Machine! Time Machine! Time Machine! Time Machine!

-snip-
Developers \o/

 

Hourly (or however often you want) incremental full system imagines that back up literally everything about your system. Coming to Windows 10, never. 

If we are bringing up early 2000s videos, I raise you Legends of ThinkPad.
Tell me when a MBP, external HDD, or a Time Capsule survives a fire unlike these Thinkpads
(Time machine is only on site backup if I recall right?)

Comming to MBP, never.
(Im just kidding around )

[JoeCoke]

11 hours ago, DrMacintosh said:

4K display= very poor graphics experience and even worse battery life.

Oh but when Apple powered a 5k display with intel graphics in their 2015 iMac it was okay... Like seriously, I got screamed at by so many Apple fanboys for pointing that out then. (Yes, there were variants that did so, if I'm not mistaken it was the 2015 1500$ model.)

[DrMacintosh]

4 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

Oh but when Apple powered a 5k display with intel graphics in their 2015 iMac it was okay... Like seriously, I got screamed at by so many Apple fanboys for pointing that out then. (Yes, there were variants that did so, if I'm not mistaken it was the 2015 1500$ model.)

The 5K iMacs all had dGPUs........so uhhhhh, no? Perhaps you are thinking about base 1080p models. 

[JoeCoke]

16 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

The 5K iMacs all had dGPUs........so uhhhhh, no? 

Oh, excuse me, it was the 4K iMacs. I hardly see how that makes the comparison any less valid, in fact it's even better because they're both 4K displays. Not to mention it was even more pathetic because the iMac was a desktop that cost well over 1000$ sporting integrated graphics (and the 5400rpm HDD, just to make it more hilarious).

 

But my point is, I saw so many jump to defend that machine. So if the Dell is a shit experience because of it's GPU and display, then so was the 2015 4K iMac.

 

I know this is completely irrelevant to the topic, but it's just putting a smile on my face seeing that come full circle.

 

Example:

https://support.apple.com/kb/SP732?locale=en_US

[iamdarkyoshi]

Just now, 2Buck said:

and the 5400rpm HDD

Wait

 

Are you fucking serious

 

You can't be.

 

Not as the boot drive.

[JoeCoke]

6 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Wait

 

Are you fucking serious

 

You can't be.

 

Not as the boot drive.

Yes. Yes. Ohhhhh yes. It was a riot.

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, 2Buck said:

Oh, excuse me, it was the 4K iMacs. I hardly see how that makes the comparison any less valid, in fact it's even better because they're both 4K displays. Not to mention it was even more pathetic because the iMac was a desktop that cost well over 1000$ sporting integrated graphics (and the 5400rpm HDD, just to make it more hilarious).

 

But my point is, I saw so many jump to defend that machine. So if the Dell is a shit experience because of it's GPU and display, then so was the 2015 4K iMac.

 

I know this is completely irrelevant to the topic, but it's just putting a smile on my face seeing that come full circle.

And you are right. The old 4K iMacs with integrated graphics were crap. Since then Apple has moved the iMacs to dGPUs starting with the Radeon Pro 555 except for the base models which have Iris 640 and only 1080p displays. Stoll significantly more powerful than UHD. 

 

I’m actually hoping Apple cranks up the GPUs when they add 8th gen CPUs to the 2018 iMacs coming in September. 

 

 

[Dylanc1500]

1 minute ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Wait

 

Are you fucking serious

 

You can't be.

 

Not as the boot drive.

At least it wasn't IDE.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

Wait

 

Are you fucking serious

 

You can't be.

 

Not as the boot drive.

Oh yeah, those early 4K iMacs were garbage. Now they are much better and actually have dGPUs and Hybrid drives with configurable SSDs. 

[iamdarkyoshi]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

And you are right. The old 4K iMacs with integrated graphics were crap. Since then Apple has moved the iMacs to dGPUs starting with the Radeon Pro 555 except for the base models which have Iris 640. Significantly more powerful than UHD. 

 

I’m actually hoping Apple cranks up the GPUs when they add 8th gen CPUs to the 2018 iMacs coming in September. 

 

 

I just wish apple would move to ryzen... Ryzen seems to do remarkably well even in mobile applications, and the iGPU isn't awful

[JoeCoke]

11 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

And you are right. The old 4K iMacs with integrated graphics were crap. Since then Apple has moved the iMacs to dGPUs starting with the Radeon Pro 555 except for the base models which have Iris 640. Significantly more powerful than UHD. 

 

I’m actually hoping Apple cranks up the GPUs when they add 8th gen CPUs to the 2018 iMacs coming in September. 

 

 

Well, you are one of the rational ones.

 

I fondly remember being swarmed by the defense force for a comment I made about those models back then. And yeah, the iMacs got a LOT better.

[JoeCoke]

6 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

I just wish apple would move to ryzen... Ryzen seems to do remarkably well even in mobile applications, and the iGPU isn't awful

Honestly, it'd be cool seeing Apple go full red.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

I just wish apple would move to ryzen... Ryzen seems to do remarkably well even in mobile applications, and the iGPU isn't awful

Ryzens new APUs are actually freaking amazing. 

 

Apple has contracts with Intel, and while I and many others would love to see a Ryzen 2700X iMac with a Radeon Pro 580 or better, it’s a lot of work. Also one trade off would be the loss of Intel QuickSync, which is a big deal for FinalCut Pro. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 minute ago, 2Buck said:

Honestly, it'd be cool seeing Apple go full red.

I wouldn't be surprised we'll start to see some AMD powered Macs once AMD really solidifies their position rather than having Ryzen be some sort of one time fluke with nothing up their sleeves for the future. 

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

I wouldn't be surprised we'll start to see some AMD powered Macs once AMD really solidifies their position rather than having Ryzen be some sort of one time fluke with nothing up their sleeves for the future. 

The biggest thing is going to be bulk pricing. If AMD can undercut Intel, it would make it a lot easier for Apple to justify the switch. 

 

But they would have to do it across the board. I don’t see Apple optimizing Intel macOS and AMD macOS. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Drak3 said:

I'm just going to say this:

My impression of Time Machine, much like most of OSX's defaults, is that it assumes the user is an idiot that needs the simplest thing possible. There is no choice.

Whereas Windows offers reasonably simple options that'll also do reasonably comprehensive, and the user has a choice of how they want to do things.

 

Also, any time someone says Windows should adopt x OSX feature, or OSX does x thing better, all I hear is that that particular someone knows jack shit about Windows.

The thing is though, if I set out to create the perfect backup program, I would just end up designing exactly what time machine is.  It may be simple, but sometimes there's nothing wrong with that.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

14 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

But they would have to do it across the board. I don’t see Apple optimizing Intel macOS and AMD macOS. 

All the reason they need to show people this isn't a fluke. We all know what happened in that period when Bulldozer was supposed to be their net big thing. It practically fell flat on its face and was never really exceptional. I have no doubt that AMD will undercut Intel in pricing, they've basically been doing that throughout their existence. But as someone looking in from the outside, Apple has to be sure another Bulldozer scenario isn't going to happen anytime soon to even consider moving the entire Mac line over to AMD.

[Drak3]

5 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

The thing is though, if I set out to create the perfect backup program, I would just end up designing exactly what time machine is.  It may be simple, but sometimes there's nothing wrong with that.

Perfect for who?

 

For me, Time Machine is simply inadequate.

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4 hours ago, Drak3 said:

Perfect for who?

 

For me, Time Machine is simply inadequate.

For most people.  As you've said, if you need something more complex there's other programs for that, but for something built in that will satisfy the needs of the majority of users, it would be a good option, but the current Windows offering really isn't.

[Drak3]

5 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

For most people.  As you've said, if you need something more complex there's other programs for that, but for something built in that will satisfy the needs of the majority of users, it would be a good option, but the current Windows offering really isn't.

The Windows option is a great option, provided you passed 5th grade reading comprehension.

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1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

The Windows option is a great option, provided you passed 5th grade reading comprehension.

Unless it has changed substantially since I tried it, no, it's actually terrible.