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Intel GPUs are coming

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Maybe they needed Raja for the upcoming Intel and AMD combo chips

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13 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

Don't forget that they'll only be overclockable on an X or Z series board. Otherwise, expect the Intel GPU to run at some very conservative base frequency. ;)

I wanted to laugh when I read that, then the likely reality sunk in and it wasn't funny at all anymore :(

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51 minutes ago, Inkz said:

I can  just see the "INTEL EXTREME EDITION GPUS!!!!" So extreme they don't even come with a cooler and expects you to bring your own.

As long as they throw the skull trail skull on it somewhere I don't care lol.

 

49 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Obviously the unlocked k models of the Iris Pro will only come with the PCB, you go and find yourself some damn water block for it if you want to use it xD

Honestly though, having the option to straight up buy the board without fitting the bill for the aftermarket cooling would be pretty fantastic from an enthusiast stand point.

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Tbh, Intel iGPUs have come a very long way from the GMA series of old. Back then, only old games would run at low settings and potato resolution for anything faster than a hurried slideshow. You pretty much needed the video card to play games at all. Nowadays, you can reasonably play most games (barring the most demanding AAA titles) today on current iGPUs.

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11 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said:

Tbh, Intel iGPUs have come a very long way from the GMA series of old. Back then, only old games would run at low settings and potato resolution for anything faster than a hurried slideshow. You pretty much needed the video card to play games at all. Nowadays, you can reasonably play most games (barring the most demanding AAA titles) today on current iGPUs.

Finally someone get it.

The big differences between the old GMA and current intel HD is the current iGPU almost have all the features that games needed, the drawbacks is the low clocks, low bandwidth, while it still sucks in general, but at least it can run most games, unlike older iGPU.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

If you hate intel for their pricing now just wait until they start making CPU's that gimp the opposing companies GPU performance, forcing you to either lose performance or pay extra to have both an intel CPU and GPU.

 

I hope this doesn't come to fruition, but I can't imagine it happening any other way.

 

We'll see,  Historically when they have engaged is such practices they only had one competitor to lose customers to and they were the very products being gimped, however while ryzen is serious competition, Intel risk losing CPU sales if they tried anything as obvious (benchmarks would quickly show the best hardware to pair together and Intel would only be on a list by themselves).  Time will tell how unscrupulous they wish to become though.

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Intel GPUs for gaming...Why can I see another "i9 xe edition" pricing coming down the road?

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1 hour ago, gabrielcarvfer said:

If Intel can cross-license x86/x64 with AMD, why not on graphics department? Should prevent from having problems with Nvidia, while reducing R&D costs for both.

The issue is, in this department intel doesn't really have much IP to cross license. RTG really do have some market leading IP when compared to that what do Intel have to offer? 

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1 hour ago, Blebekblebek said:

Finally someone get it.

The big differences between the old GMA and current intel HD is the current iGPU almost have all the features that games needed, the drawbacks is the low clocks, low bandwidth, while it still sucks in general, but at least it can run most games, unlike older iGPU.

 

 

 

I've games on Intel GMA graphics before, so this something I felt worthy of bringing up. In terms of compute performance, the Intel GMA 4500MHD is about on the same level as the iPhone 4S GPU, or at least, not much greater. While my second laptop with the Radeon 5470 would be hardly considered fit for gaming, it was leagues ahead by comparison.

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4 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Here in 10 years we'll have a computer rocking a nVidia CPU and an Intel GPU for the lulz the way things are moving.

 

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Technically speaking, Nvidia's Denver V2 cores should be able to run x86 code pretty efficiently right? Assuming Intel loses their lawsuit against Qualcomm and set the precedent for translating the x86 instruction set.

 

I don't imagine we'll see Nvidia break into the x86 market, but we could very well see them support Windows 10 in a similar way to "Windows 10 on ARM", as well as supporting other ARM based OSes like Android and Fuchsia.

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Not sure what I'd expect from Raja at Intel. He spent the last 4 years leading one of the most advanced GPU division in the industry and yet couldn't bring anything substantial.

 

Even if they wanted to bring discrete graphics chips for consumer PCs it'd be a while before they get any winning design, thanks to Intel's immense lack of graphics IP and technical talent. Raja alone cannot change the face of Intel's graphics division overnight. And the Intel-AMD deal makes it even less of a necessity.

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You apparently haven't seen his responses to questions on YouTube. He is very condescending and aggressive in his comments with which there is little justification. He acts totally different in his videos. I don't necessarily care for this content style and there is nothing really unique about him or his channel. His endless dick jokes and toilet humor are annoying as well.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Shahnewaz said:

Not sure what I'd expect from Raja at Intel. He spent the last 4 years leading one of the most advanced GPU division in the industry and yet couldn't bring anything substantial.

 

Even if they wanted to bring discrete graphics chips for consumer PCs it'd be a while before they get any winning design, thanks to Intel's immense lack of graphics IP and technical talent. Raja alone cannot change the face of Intel's graphics division overnight. And the Intel-AMD deal makes it even less of a necessity.

AMD also had *very* limited resources to work with. You can have all the IP you want, without money to pay for the patents you don't have, to pay the engineers making the product, and to pay for marketing and integration, it's a very challenging task.

 

Intel on the other hand has the opposite issue though, you're right. They can smack Raja with a wad of cash, but that doesn't give them the IP to build a GPU.

 

But AMD doesn't have to cross license to Intel though. Unlike x86, there are other players in the field especially if you're worried about compute rather than rendering. Between AMD, ARM, Imagination, Qualcomm, and Broadcom, Intel has options.

 

The Intel/RTG EMIB package is cool, but it really doesn't compete in the sector where Nvidia is a concern for Intel. Intel needs more options for scalable and parallel compute in HPC or they're going to fall behind as CPU performance becomes less important.

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5 hours ago, tsk said:

It will certainly bring some much needed competition, just crossing fingers for that gaming GPU. 

In theory yes. But it's intel, so they will charge a lot and therefor the other player don't have to lower prices...

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6 hours ago, tsk said:

By now you've all read the news about Intel CPU's with Radeon graphics on the same PCB as well as them snapping up Raja Koduri from AMD. 

 

With this news also comes a big, but subtle announcement from Intel; they are gonna start building dedicated graphics solutions. 

 

 

Can this mean future gaming graphics cards from Intel? 

Possibly. But it certainly means Intel is seeing the huge potential of HPC and GPUs important role in that. 

 

Now my little birds at Intel tell me all of this is a result of one competitor Intel sees as a serious threat; Nvidia. 

The GV100 compute chip from Nvidia sits alone at the throne in the Compute space, and Nvidia is making some serious money selling it. 

 

Any thoughts on Intels future role in the GPU market? 

 

 

PS!  This thread revolves around Intels future plans to join the GPU market, not Raja Koduri joining the ranks or the recently announced EMIB board mixing Radeon and Intel. 

 

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This make the whole Intel AMD Collab even more confusing.

 

I said it in that thread only being semi serious but with everything that's happening I'll repeat it here, it's looking more and more likely Intel is trying to buy out RTG from AMD.

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9 hours ago, Phentos said:

We probably won't see anything come into the market from this until probably 2020. 

 

By that time my wallet will be wide open as I intend on building a top end HEDT system around the same time.

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will be fun when Intel comes to makret with locked and unloked SKUs and the rest of the market follows...

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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Maybe this will push even more high end GPU's, seeing as we are still missing a GPU capable of 4k60fps (No, the 1080Ti is not capable of this, it hits 60 in some games not all)

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This is very interesting.

Hopefully Raja can do much better with more cash and competent people at Intel than the catastrophe called Vega at AMD.

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11 hours ago, Bouzoo said:

Now with Intel in the game, we will literally have teams Red, Green and Blue (RGB). What a time to be alive. 

Except ram chips will continue to cost more than your GPU in the future lols

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10 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Maybe they needed Raja for the upcoming Intel and AMD combo chips

I was thinking about this as well. 

 

In hind sight we know that the intel AMD combo was in the works well before we heard the first rumours that were debunked by both intel and AMD. 

 

The timing seems as though Raja moving to Intel is part of the deal, he would have non compete clauses in his contract with AMD. So a move like this would not be possible in a one month time frame, more like a year. 

 

An AMD and intel graphics partnership maybe... That something I would be excited for, high end graphics from AMD/intel collaborative development. 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, mr moose said:

 

We'll see,  Historically when they have engaged is such practices they only had one competitor to lose customers to and they were the very products being gimped, however while ryzen is serious competition, Intel risk losing CPU sales if they tried anything as obvious (benchmarks would quickly show the best hardware to pair together and Intel would only be on a list by themselves).  Time will tell how unscrupulous they wish to become though.

I think they could easily market it (better performance/gimping competitors) as some sort of new technology that they're implementing that allows the CPU and GPU to communicate more easily. I also think they could easily get away with it.

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