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AMD killing Crossfire branding in favor of ...mGPU..not to be confused with mobile GPUs

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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3227865/components-graphics/amd-radeon-phases-out-the-crossfire-brand-as-multi-gpu-gets-more-complicated.html

A new branding for crossfire has microstuttered its way into our systems. 

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When AMD released the Radeon Software 17.9.2 drivers that enabled support for multi-GPU solutions in Radeon RX Vega cards this morning, the announcement post didn’t mention CrossFire—AMD’s longstanding brand for multi-GPU (mGPU) solutions—a single time. An AMD representative revealed why in response to a PCWorld query: In this complicated mGPU age, Radeon is abandoning the CrossFire brand.

“CrossFire isn’t mentioned because it technically refers to DX11 applications,” an AMD PR representative told PCWorld. “In DirectX 12, we reference multi-GPU as applications must support mGPU, whereas AMD has to create the profiles for DX11. We’ve accordingly moved away from using the CrossFire tag for multi-GPU gaming.”

The memes are already here 

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Anyway becasue multi GPU works different in DX12, technically it's not so much on AMD to make it work in each game, they want to distance themselves I assume....

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AMD is correct that enabling mGPU support in DirectX 11 and DirectX 12 games are very different. Developers need to build multi-GPU support into DirectX 12 engines and games, explicitly telling the software how to control the hardware. It’s much more versatile and (potentially) powerful than what was available before, but it requires more work on the developer’s end

translation: it will almost never be implemented properly. 

 

So farewell crossfire, hello mixed cards. 

 

How would you even refer to running two AMD GPUs now? 

I run two Vega 64s in crossfire mGPU?

I run two Vega 64s in multi-GPU?

Doesn't sound as cool. 

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4 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

How would you even refer to running two AMD GPUs now?

I run dual vega 64s or I run vega 64s in tandem, either sounds spiffy enough to me

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introducing this brand new ryzen gaming laptop. It's got 2 mGPU running in mGPU.

Whoever thought of this crap must be leaning far to the left and this is no good for AMD. 

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4 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

introducing this brand new ryzen gaming laptop. It's got 2 mGPU running in mGPU.

Whoever thought of this crap must be leaning far to the left and this is no good for AMD. 

I was just thinking this. 

And before anyone says shit, like why  would you ever do that, I used to run 2 6970ms in a laptop that was ~16 pounds with the charger IIRC

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6 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

I'm just glad they don't called it mLI

Let's be realistic.

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Or XLI for short.

 

If they were to name it closer to Nvidia's stupid name

 

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Just now, Zodiark1593 said:

The tech community could just ignore AMD and still call it Crossfire.

Much like Core i9 and MacOS, this rebrand gets thrown in Drak3's 'ignore because stupid' pile.

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7 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

Core i9

What's wrong with core i9, that's what I expected them to name it and what I would have named it if I were them

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4 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

What's wrong with core i9, that's what I expected them to name it and what I would have named it if I were them

Hate the repeated sound of 'i i,' plus i7 Extreme Edition sounds 10,000,000x better IMO

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I see that AMD's marketing is as good as ever. Also, Crossfire is purely a marketing term while SLI is an actual technique with multi-GPU configs.

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There's little reason to need more than one GPU to begin with.

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Just now, Okjoek said:

There's little reason to need more than one GPU to begin with.

One for graphics and one for physics. One for scenery and the other for moving objects.

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It'll always be crossfire to me!

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2 minutes ago, Moress said:

It'll always be crossfire to me!

Time for some to spoof "She's Always a Woman to Me" by Billy Joel...

 

This also officially kills any chances off multi-GPU engines being made since most "AAA" developers care more for the bottom line than they do making the best they can make. 

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3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Time for some to spoof "She's Always a Woman to Me" by Billy Joel...

 

This also officially kills any chances off multi-GPU engines being made since most "AAA" developers care more for the bottom line than they do making the best they can make. 

I worry a lot less on enthusiast niche hardware support like xfire and more about overall polish and gameplay. Kill multi-GPU support may suck for us, but if it means better optimization for single GPUs (Or just overall at that point) then its for the best

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Sounds too generic and general.

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15 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

 

I run two Vega 64s in multi-GPU a fission reactor?

 

 
 

FTFY

 

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Just now, Shreyas1 said:

FTFY

"two" and "a" do not make sense unless you want to unstrike-through "Vega 64s in".

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5 minutes ago, Shreyas1 said:

FTFY

A total furnace. "Oops, pilot light went out, hold on gotta light my gpus"

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1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

How would you even refer to running two AMD GPUs now? 

I run two Vega 64s in crossfire mGPU?

I run two Vega 64s in multi-GPU?

Doesn't sound as cool. 

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We'll see how far engine devs go with multi-GPUs.  I don't expect they'll work on it much, but engine side is the only place to implement it now without wasting gobs of devs time on each game, reinventing the wheel every time.

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Personally, instead of "I'm crossfiring two Vega 64'S" , I like the sound of "I'm running two nuclear reactors"

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2 hours ago, Syntaxvgm said:

translation: it will almost never be implemented properly. 

For game engines like Unreal I'm sure it'll be inbuilt and fairly usable, much more so than getting crossfire to work anyway.

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