Posted September 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Remixt said: People do realize that Geekbench is optimized for Arm processors right? For those of you who don't know Arm processors only accept a fraction of the instructions that an x86 chip can, so Geekbench is basically trying to eat apple sauce with a fork when it comes to the i5. NOP that's all apple optimization in the work. intel wished they had such granular control over windows One day I will be able to play Monster Hunter Frontier in French/Italian/English on my PC, it's just a matter of time... 4 5 6 7 8 9 years later: It's finally coming!!! Phones: iPhone 4S/SE | LG V10 | Lumia 920 | Samsung S24 Ultra Laptops: Macbook Pro 15" (mid-2012) | Compaq Presario V6000 Other: Steam Deck <>EVs are bad, they kill the planet and remove freedoms too some/<> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, tsk said: For anyone interested comparing Apple to Intel read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9766/the-apple-ipad-pro-review Apple chips are definitely competitive with Intel at similar TDP. TDP is not a good datum to compare CPU's. In fact it's not even a good metric for most things enthusiasts do. Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge. Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 Geekbench, Geekbench everywhee. | Ryzen 7 7800X3D | AM5 B650 Aorus Elite AX | G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5 32GB 6000MHz C30 | Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX | Samsung 990 PRO 1TB with heatsink | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 | Seasonic Focus GX-850 | Lian Li Lanccool III | Mousepad: Skypad 3.0 XL / Zowie GTF-X | Mouse: Zowie S1-C | Keyboard: Ducky One 3 TKL (Cherry MX-Speed-Silver) | Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (2nd Gen) | Acer XV272U | OS: Windows 11 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 It doesn't matter if it's not comparable to any X86 CPU, it's still miles ahead of any android CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 so if they aren't good across different architectures, then does that mean that the same are good? Like the chips in the mars rovers are almost exactly the same as the one in the wii u Geekbench on a mars rover? i like trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 23 minutes ago, NinerL said: It doesn't matter if it's not comparable to any X86 CPU, it's still miles ahead of any android CPU. I don't suppose we'll see Android CPUs catch up, will we, what with Android being optimized for many weaker cores, and no one wanting to make a big core CPU for Android? My eyes see the past… My camera lens sees the present… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 3 hours ago, NinerL said: It doesn't matter if it's not comparable to any X86 CPU, it's still miles ahead of any android CPU. what's an android CPU? never even knew they existed, as most android devices use a Qualcomm, Mediatek, or Samsung SoC. Intel i5-6600K@4.2GHz, 16GB Crucial DDR4-2133, Gigabyte Z170X-UD3, Be quiet shadow rock slim, Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC, Fractal design Integra M 550W, NZXT S340, Sandisk X110 128GB, WD black 750GB, Seagate momentus 160GB, HGST 160GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Zodiark1593 said: I don't suppose we'll see Android CPUs catch up, will we, what with Android being optimized for many weaker cores, and no one wanting to make a big core CPU for Android? Depends on if we see a Tegra for mobile again. The DenverV2 cores are pretty comparable with Apple's cores, just scaling between the two extremes rather than Big.little. If we see a cut down version of Xavier (or even Parker) come to mobile chipsets, it could be a freaking beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 28 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said: Depends on if we see a Tegra for mobile again. The DenverV2 cores are pretty comparable with Apple's cores, just scaling between the two extremes rather than Big.little. If we see a cut down version of Xavier (or even Parker) come to mobile chipsets, it could be a freaking beast. There is that, but also Android would need to be capable of taking advantage of such wide cores. My eyes see the past… My camera lens sees the present… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 1:21 PM, tsk said: For anyone interested comparing Apple to Intel read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9766/the-apple-ipad-pro-review Apple chips are definitely competitive with Intel at similar TDP. Well either that's true and this news isn't, or this news is true and Apple is massively better than Intel at the same TDP (or you know, neither is true ) Because they're comparing a phone which must be a few W at most to a CPU that can be anywhere from 9 - 15 W Solve your own audio issues | First Steps with RPi 3 | Humidity & Condensation | Sleep & Hibernation | Overclocking RAM | Making Backups | Displays | 4K / 8K / 16K / etc. | Do I need 80+ Platinum? If you can read this you're using the wrong theme. You can change it at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 This entire topic makes me reeeeeeeeeeeeee, who the F ran Geekbench and tried to compare an i5 CPU to an SoC "The only thing that matters right now is that you're here, and you're safe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 11:08 AM, Sauron said: If you see someone doing this sort of comparison with geekbench, you can be sure they are not a trustworthy publication. like Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 Thread moved to General Discussion. Not really appropriate for Tech News. "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out." - Carl Sagan. "I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you" - Edward I. Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said: like Yeah, poor Austin is just a youtuber and doesn't know these things unfortunately. At least he isn't comparing a phone to it though. Don't ask to ask, just ask... please sudo chmod -R 000 /* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Sauron said: Yeah, poor Austin is just a youtuber and doesn't know these things unfortunately. At least he isn't comparing a phone to it though. what? thats what he did. comparing a mac mini to a iphone x Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow. GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450. Spirt (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped PSU Tier List Motherboard Tier List SSD Tier List How to get PC parts cheap HP probook 445R G6 review "Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid." Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, GDRRiley said: what? thats what he did. comparing a mac mini to a iphone x Oh never mind lol I missed that but yes, don't listen to him either with this sort of comparison. It's dumb. Don't ask to ask, just ask... please sudo chmod -R 000 /* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 39 minutes ago, Sauron said: Oh never mind lol I missed that but yes, don't listen to him either with this sort of comparison. It's dumb. Well, perhaps someone should kindly correct him instead of doing the typical internet tradition of calling someone dumb. My eyes see the past… My camera lens sees the present… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 why is it that every topic involving geekbench become cancer Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here! Local asshole and 6th generation console enthusiast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Dan Castellaneta said: why is it that every topic involving geekbench become cancer Denial probably. I'm not aware of the inner workings of Geekbench, so I'm not in the position to argue over it's validity as a cross-platform benchmark between x86 and ARM, or even Android vs Windows vs iOS vs Mac. My eyes see the past… My camera lens sees the present… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 0:42 PM, Aytex said: I love my i5 powered Android device You have an LG Tab Book? CPU: Ryzen 9 5900 Cooler: EVGA CLC280 Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Pro AX RAM: Kingston Hyper X 32GB 3200mhz Storage: WD 750 SE 500GB, WD 730 SE 1TB GPU: EVGA RTX 3070 Ti PSU: Corsair SF750 Case: Streacom DA2 Monitor: LG 27GL83B Mouse: Razer Basilisk V2 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Speakers: Mackie CR5BT MiniPC - Sold for $100 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i3 4160 Cooler: Integrated Motherboard: Integrated RAM: G.Skill RipJaws 16GB DDR3 Storage: Transcend MSA370 128GB GPU: Intel 4400 Graphics PSU: Integrated Case: Shuttle XPC Slim Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Budget Rig 1 - Sold For $750 Profit Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 7600k Cooler: CryOrig H7 Motherboard: MSI Z270 M5 RAM: Crucial LPX 16GB DDR4 Storage: Intel S3510 800GB GPU: Nvidia GTX 980 PSU: Corsair CX650M Case: EVGA DG73 Monitor: LG 29WK500 Mouse: G.Skill MX780 Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red OG Gaming Rig - Gone Spoiler CPU: Intel i5 4690k Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 Motherboard: MSI Z97i AC ITX RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16GB DDR3 Storage: Kingston Fury 240GB GPU: Asus Strix GTX 970 PSU: Thermaltake TR2 Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, Zodiark1593 said: Well, perhaps someone should kindly correct him instead of doing the typical internet tradition of calling someone dumb. Oh come on, I said it is dumb, not that he is dumb. I didn't correct Austin because I hadn't seen the video (no offence to the guy but it's been a while since I've been subbed to him, I just find his videos not very interesting and unfortunately even LTT videos are starting to enter that category for me personally), but you're free to do that yourself 15 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said: why is it that every topic involving geekbench become cancer Mostly because if you make any claim based on an extremely flawed test and bad premises you're going to get corrected. Don't ask to ask, just ask... please sudo chmod -R 000 /* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, Dan Castellaneta said: why is it that every topic involving geekbench become cancer Well benchmarking a phone seems silly or at least using things like Geekbench... a Moo Floof connoisseur and curator. @handymanshandle x @pinksnowbirdie || Jake x Brendan Youtube Audio Normalization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 2:52 PM, Fooshi said: >Geekbench https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=136526&curpostid=136666 Lord and saviour Linus Torvalds has got a few things to say about that. Well, if we assume what Linus T. says is correct, then Apple's choices in hardware would make some more sense. Apple prides itself on having very quick response times, which when opening an app, requires loading from the storage. iOS by default is encrypted (another feature Apple is proud of), so having the NVME storage and some very fast decryption capabilities would help deliver the responsiveness Apple seeks. Of course, this is pure speculation. Feel free to disregard it. My eyes see the past… My camera lens sees the present… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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