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Thats like a 10 minute drive from me

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2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

 

Well that would be a pretty big leap for a company's dermal implant to be some sort of mark of the devil xD doesn't seem any worse than tattoos to me (in fact it's probably less intrusive and easier to remove).

I see your point except you could do more with a chip then a tattoo, like track location, vitals (obviously in the farther future once tech is more advanced) and it would be able to detect when its removed etc...

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Just now, M.Yurizaki said:

I read that this policy isn't mandatory.

 

However the biggest concern I have with RFID embedding is this: what happens if someone's compromised? They can't/won't exactly call the company to tell them to invalidate their RFID.

Of course you read it isn't mandatory... I said that in the OP :P

 

I'm thinking they'd probably tell their manager/supervisor whoever they answer to over at Three Square Market, and they'll call the company that makes the chips.

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1 minute ago, Abyss Gaming said:

Except a big corporation doesnt control that.

Really? Transport for NSW is a for profit government owned organisation and they have already tried to deactivate the thing 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/inventions/transport-for-nsw-cant-cancel-biohackers-opal-card-implant-because-its-not-registered/news-story/27ca54f0e9b01a078fd6b8ee80d3b813

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Without going into detail with what my job exactly is. 

 

I know peoples habits. A lot of peoples habits. Thats information i can sell if it werent completely illegal for me to do so. 

These cards are also not terribly secure. Theres only a handful of rfid technologies that havent been compremised to be able to copy. And even some of those the data can still be read. 

 

Now imagine a vendor having access to your eating habits directly. Thats valuable information for many different kinds of companies. Which mimd you your banks already have. 

 

Our phones are already great trackers too. 

 

 

No way id be putting something that is basicslly me in inside of me. 

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MMMMMM nah. Never will I get tech like this implanted in my unless I face no choice

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2 minutes ago, kiska3 said:

Really? Transport for NSW is a for profit government owned organisation and they have already tried to deactivate the thing 

http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/inventions/transport-for-nsw-cant-cancel-biohackers-opal-card-implant-because-its-not-registered/news-story/27ca54f0e9b01a078fd6b8ee80d3b813

But theres probably not gps and as you saw they failed to cancel it as it was not registered.

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9 minutes ago, Abyss Gaming said:

But theres probably not gps and as you saw they failed to cancel it as it was not registered.

From what I read(note skimmed) it doesn't do that much(storing information about what you want) , it's like our opal cards(which stores travel data) in which it would only operate when near the damn scanner(and the range is crap)

The only exception to this is that it's not a government owned organisation that is administering the chip

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1 minute ago, kiska3 said:

From what I read(note skimmed) it doesn't do that much(storing information about what you want) , it's like our opal cards(which stores travel data) in which would only operate when near the damn scanner(and the range is crap)

The only exception to this is that it's not a government owned organisation that is administering the chip

Yea this is like that but it could lead to something much more advanced.

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4 minutes ago, Abyss Gaming said:

Yea this is like that but it could lead to something much more advanced.

Also how would you expect to store the energy needed on these implants to allow for GPS? The opal card has a total capacitance of 17 picofarads

And your standard NFC capable tag only stores upto 100 picofarads which I understand does not cover the amount of energy require to run GPS even for a second

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Just now, kiska3 said:

Also how would you expect to store the energy needed on these implants to allow for GPS? The opal card has a total capacitance of 17 picofarads

And your standard NFC capable tag only stores upto 100 picofarads which I understand does not cover the amount of energy require to run GPS even for a second

In many more years yes, not denying that at all. But it will eventually lead to something more capable

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1 minute ago, kiska3 said:

Also how would you expect to store the energy needed on these implants to allow for GPS? The opal card has a total capacitance of 17 picofarads

And your standard NFC capable tag only stores upto 100 picofarads which I understand does not cover the amount of energy require to run GPS even for a second

I still wouldn't trust it.  The technology can only advance, and it can only become more capable what corporations or governments could do.

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39 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

According to her, they just sliced the skin and used tweezers.  

If you want to say that's a full operation, I mean, sure.

 

But again, I don't know how this company plans to do all this.  I'm just basing off of how I know someone else did it.

Well, anything that involves cutting anything on your body is an operation, and complications can arise. Not to mention pain. Remember that the RFID needs to be lower than your epidermis (first layer of your skin), else it will come out as epidermis is mostly dead skin so it eventually pushes out. Tattoo ink sit between the epidermis and dermis. And that isn't easy to remove. So to remove the RFID chip, probably pain killer needs to be injected, blood will come out. That.. is an operation, and you can have complications (infections, scaring, person can faint, vomiting, etc.), remember that not everyone is the same. We all have different ages, different immune system, and so on.

 

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18 minutes ago, GoodBytes said:

Well, anything that involves cutting anything on your body is an operation, and complications can arise. Not to mention pain. Remember that the RFID needs to be lower than your epidermis (first layer of your skin), else it will come out as epidermis is mostly dead skin so it eventually pushes out. Tattoo ink sit between the epidermis and dermis. And that isn't easy to remove. So to remove the RFID chip, probably pain killer needs to be injected, blood will come out. That.. is an operation, and you can have complications (infections, scaring, person can faint, vomiting, etc.), remember that not everyone is the same. We all have different ages, different immune system, and so on.

And who's going to pay for the medical bill?

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57 minutes ago, Sauron said:

WHY would you implant things into your hand when you can use your phone in the same exact way?

Can you imagine your company knowing every time you jerked off?

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We have to make sure to stop this movement because it's only inevitable before this becomes common. 

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2 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Do we need more surveillance?

IDEK but its not like companies such as google and apple already knows where you live, work, browsing history, purchasing habits, bank account details, possibly even who you hang out with, where you ate lunch, where you went to holiday, what your schedule is ect. ect. :P 

 

I mean google maps even gives me a notification at 3:30pm every Monday-Friday telling me how long its going to take for me to walk home from school (albeit my old house as I just moved and its not caught on yet...) so...

Looking at my signature are we now? Well too bad there's nothing here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What? As I said, there seriously is nothing here :) 

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I don't even trust using my phone to pay for stuff, and that would at least allow me to authorize a transaction before it's approved.  If you put your hand down at the wrong time in the wrong place, you could authorize a payment without intending to.  And that's just the best case scenario, where it's accidental.  Absolutely no safeguards to prevent unauthorized charges using this method.  And if you add authorization into your phone, then you may as well just use your phone to make the payment.

 

And that's without getting into the physical pain aspect (I can't even look when I've had nurses draw blood before, because I'll tense up).  And of course, there's moral and ethical implications of this technology to consider, which has already been touched upon by others in this thread.

 

Summary: no way I'd ever get one of this chips implanted.

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3 hours ago, aisle9 said:

Nope.

 

Nope nope nope nope nope.

 

I can't help but think back to the interview Adam Savage did post-Mythbusters when he was asked about topics they had been told not to touch. The only one was RFID. After they did the RFID tag in Kari's arm, they were summoned to a conference call with Discovery's legal team and the legal teams of many, many companies with a vested interest in keeping RFID capabilities silent and told in no uncertain terms that they were never to explore that topic again.

 

What were those companies hiding, hm? And what about that phone call would make anyone want to trust one of them not to "accidentally" enable GPS or some other form of tracking data in the chip they shove into your palm?

 

I think the only thing these companies are hiding (these companies being visa and master card) is how insecure the system is.  The legal ramifications for a tv show telling everyone how easy it is to commit CC fraud with an RFID reader was not worth the risk.

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I find biohacking really cool, but this thing is just a pure nope. 

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11 hours ago, Abyss Gaming said:

I see your point except you could do more with a chip then a tattoo, like track location, vitals (obviously in the farther future once tech is more advanced) and it would be able to detect when its removed etc...

Well, the fact that you could doesn't mean that you would - there are legal implications with inserting stuff like GPS in something like this without telling the recipient. This one in particular just seems to be an RFID-like credit card substitute, there is no indication that it will "call home" in any way. Of course they'll know where you are when you make a transaction but they would know that even with a normal credit card.

Don't ask to ask, just ask... please 🤨

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Yeah.. I'll stick to my debit card. Don't see the point of having someone stick an RFID tag in my body when i could do the same things without it. 

Augmentations that would increase my speed,strength,endurance or senses. Yes.

Augmentations that make it easier for me to buy a snickers. No

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