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I think the guy is talking about all the rumors and the hype around it, and the rift it causes in the community 

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Just now, AnonymousGuy said:

I'll be eagerly awaiting how well copy-pasting desktop 8 core parts actually works.  Their design for Naples is rushed and hacked together.

thats how their 8 cores are made the cluster is 1 IMC and 4 core per cluster.

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This sounds like a bogus rumor to me. Intel shows up with i9s and suddenly a week later someome comes up with Ryzen 9s which are not based on the Naples arch but on something we'd never heard about before?

14 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

I thought this is what "the people" wanted with competition? :P

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18 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

is that a bad thing ?

After all , intel has been basically doing nothing for the last 5 years.

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2 minutes ago, The Benjamins said:

thats how their 8 cores are made the cluster is 1 IMC and 4 core per cluster.

Right, but the silicon is at least monolithic.  The 16 core part is basically going to be a 2S 8 core system with cores having to communicate over some interlink and L3 cache sharing being limited.

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4 minutes ago, Energycore said:

This sounds like a bogus rumor to me. Intel shows up with i9s and suddenly a week later someome comes up with Ryzen 9s which are not based on the Naples arch but on something we'd never heard about before?

that is rumors for you

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I hope this video explains how I feel about this situation. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

It's been way too long since Intel had some proper competition. Look at it this way. There might finally be another dramatic increase in CPU performance.

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Mmmm, potential competition.

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1 minute ago, AnonymousGuy said:

Right, but the silicon is at least monolithic.  The 16 core part is basically going to be a 2S 8 core system with cores having to communicate over some interlink and L3 cache sharing being limited.

yes the CCX bridge that the 8 cores use, it is the same thing but 4 4 core clusters. they also plan to us this for APU's. they have a white paper going over a possible 32 core 8 GPU die HBM linked APU with a target of 100 Tflops.

 

this link is going to allow them to cookie cutter CPU/APU together.

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5 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

I hope this video explains how I feel about this situation. 

 

 

Wait, so because of an over-exaggerated video on competition, which has little to no bearing on CPU competition (they are not soliciting you), we should resort to a stagnant monopoly where we get stuck with 4 core CPU's forever with constantly climbing prices, nevermind the fact that CPU's with more cores start costing exponentially more for each core added.

 

As that paragraph indicated, that seems an undesirable and self-destructive way to go.

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36 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

Only a non techies will spew that kind of nonsense.

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36 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

So... competition is back in the CPU market? How is that a bad thing? This is how innovation occurs, consumers win when competition is fierce.

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32 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Please don't encourage them. 

why not though? do you just want to be stuck with intel saying quadcores is all you need for eternety and AMD haveing shitloads of poop cores like it was before Ryzen?

 

32 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

In my opinion it's really annoying. 

how is more preformance anoying though? that dosent really make sense...

 

24 minutes ago, AnonymousGuy said:

I'll be eagerly awaiting how well copy-pasting desktop 8 core parts actually works.  Their design for Naples is rushed and hacked together.

nah its just more CCX's stapled together basically, AMD are runnig a pretty modular ship here

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25 minutes ago, Energycore said:

This sounds like a bogus rumor to me. Intel shows up with i9s and suddenly a week later someome comes up with Ryzen 9s which are not based on the Naples arch but on something we'd never heard about before?

I thought this is what "the people" wanted with competition? :P

its all Zen just with different amounts of cores and memory channels, the same way gpus can have different amounts of cores 

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44 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Please don't encourage them. 

It's good for us consumers though.

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17 minutes ago, NuclearKing said:

Wait, so because of an over-exaggerated video on competition, which has little to no bearing on CPU competition (they are not soliciting you), we should resort to a stagnant monopoly where we get stuck with 4 core CPU's forever with constantly climbing prices, nevermind the fact that CPU's with more cores start costing exponentially more for each core added.

 

As that paragraph indicated, that seems an undesirable and self-destructive way to go.

clock speeds are reaching the limits of what silicon can do so the only way to improve is having more cores,

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48 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

They've always been doing that. Any company that competes directly with another does that.

It's just looking like it did before Bulldozer and Core i.

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47 minutes ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

I disagree. Intel now has competition. Something it hasn't had in a long time.

 

Competition invokes innovation. Competition is what drives the free market.

 

This is good for us. 16 cores and 32 threads? That'll really crush those rendering times for me. I could batch render 4k images very quickly that amount of horsepower.

 

Intel is in a state of panic. Exactly where we want them. This will drive better performance gains over each generation.

 

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2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

clock speeds are reaching the limits of what silicon can do so the only way to improve is having more cores,

We're also approaching to the point where Moore's law will prevent us from making CPUs more powerful. The fact we will have a 10nm lithography is simply amazing.

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We've been getting the same quadcores for a decade now there is some actual competition and it's "childish and annoying"

 

are you F'ing KIDDING me!?! Do you own a lot of Intel stock or something Jesus 

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1 minute ago, QuantumElement said:

We're also approaching to the point where Moore's law will prevent us from making CPUs more powerful. The fact we will have a 10nm lithography is simply amazing.

it wont stop here as there is two things now we can do: 

1 still on x86: 

                     bigger chips, still feasible for the consumer market but the server market is already reaching the limits

                     add additional layers to the dies, just lke in hbm (probably hard but very cool concept)

                     divide the chip into smaller dies:allows for modularity, low costs and much bigger chips

2 get rid of as many instructions as possible (specially the older ones that aren't in use) and simplify to reduce the core footprint

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1 hour ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

Do you not get what competition mea...

 

Nah, I just felt like quoting you. xD 

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1 hour ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Both companies are trying to outdo each other now which is kinda childish...

 

1 hour ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Please don't encourage them. 

 

1 hour ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

In my opinion it's really annoying. 

Is this some new kind of trolling I don't know about?

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