ryzen 5 Ryzen 5 will hit slightly higher maximum clockspeeds compared to the Ryzen 7 lineup (+100 to +200 MHz)

[captain cactus]

sauce: https://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/feature/interview-amds-travis-kirsch-on-the-ryzen-5-launch,457252

 

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During the Beijing launch event, we were lucky enough to spend some time chatting with Travis Kirsch, who is the of Director Client Product Management on the Ryzen series at AMD.

The interesting part: 

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PCPP: Given the lower thermal output of the Ryzen 5 chips as there are less cores active, are you seeing better overclocking results than the Ryzen 7 series, which tends to max out at around 4.1GHz?

Travis: Yeah, we’re seeing a little bit better. It depends on the cooling solution obviously; we’re not getting significantly higher, more like in the order of a hundred or two hundred MHz.

 

So we could be seeing the 1600(X) at 4.1-4.2GHz, depending on the sample. Still really nice to see, as the Ryzen 5 lineup is more catered towards the gaming folks and games still like higher single-core performance and higher frequencies these days. Good to see Ryzen's limit isn't really locked to that 4.0-4.1 GHz as we've seen with the Ryzen 7 lineup (with most of them topping out at 3.9 GHz at a reasonable voltage).

 

But yeah. $220 (assuming the 1600 can go at or very close to 1600X) for a potentially 4.2 GHz 6c12t CPU. Pair it with a B350 board (which can pretty much allow Ryzen to go to its max clocks) at around $120 and you're looking at a total of $340 for a kick-ass CPU and a motherboard alone, leaving way more headroom for a higher-end GPU to pair with your nice 6-core CPU. I like that. 

[tlink]

nice.

[tp95112]

Nice to see a 4.0 clocks meaning its attainable not by overclock and not the limit as we see so far

[Guest Kloaked]

I hope it's actually good because my wallet wants this.

[Princess Luna]

Could you edit the formatting on the quote to adjust to the night theme users please?

 

And yes, these are great news, any boost in single core performance will be widely appreciated for gamers  [:

[captain cactus]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Could you edit the formatting on the quote to adjust to the night theme users please?

 

And yes, these are great news, any boost in single core performance will be widely appreciated for gamers  [:

Better?

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Better?

Plenty, I appreciate it.

[zMeul]

reminds me of Fiji 

 

people that expected better OC from less cores CPUs - told you so!

[WMGroomAK]

18 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

But yeah. $220 (assuming the 1600 can go at or very close to 1600X) for a potentially 4.2 GHz 6c12t CPU. Pair it with a B350 board (which can pretty much allow Ryzen to go to its max clocks) at around $120 and you're looking at a total of $340 for a kick-ass CPU and a motherboard alone, leaving way more headroom for a higher-end GPU to pair with your nice 6-core CPU. I like that.

You would probably still need to include a really good tower or AIO cooler in this to see the performance they're talking about, but it is good news and hopefully, we'll see even better progress on higher clocks on the lower core enabled chips and in the next generation of Zen processors as well.

[captain cactus]

21 minutes ago, WMGroomAK said:

You would probably still need to include a really good tower or AIO cooler in this to see the performance they're talking about, but it is good news and hopefully, we'll see even better progress on higher clocks on the lower core enabled chips and in the next generation of Zen processors as well.

The Wraith Spire seems to hold its own on the 1700, and that kicks out more heat than a 1600.

[VicBar]

Seing Kabylake overclock to 5GHz easily I can't help but feel unimpressed and dissapointed by this marginal improvement over R7...  

I really wanted at least that level of OC. I know the world record was broken with the R7 but I can barely afford the CPU and AIO, I ain't getting into liquid nitro...

[Mothballs]

5 minutes ago, VicBar said:

Seing Kabylake overclock to 5GHz easily I can't help but feel unimpressed and dissapointed by this marginal improvement over R7...  

I really wanted at least that level of OC. I know the world record was broken with the R7 but I can barely afford the CPU and AIO, I ain't getting into liquid nitro...

I am willing to bet that there's something people are overlooking still that's holding back clocks.

AMD CPU's have never quite been "Up the Multi and voltage and taaaadaaa" It's been stuff like "Bring up Multi, Voltage, Get the exact NB speed to ratio with the Max clock speed, move the HT-L up unless you are over this frequency, in which case bring it down, bump the CPU Clock slightly to help bring up the RAM frequency and Make sure your RAM is below this timing for the best performance."

Meanwhile in the last six years all anyone knows to do now-a-days is "Up the CPU Voltage and Up the Multi." with Intel for the most part. I'm willing to bet you'll see 4.5Ghz+ soon enough.

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, VicBar said:

Seing Kabylake overclock to 5GHz easily I can't help but feel unimpressed and dissapointed by this marginal improvement over R7...  

I really wanted at least that level of OC. I know the world record was broken with the R7 but I can barely afford the CPU and AIO, I ain't getting into liquid nitro...

Yes but you are paying 300 plus dollars for a 4c/8t processor while these will be 6c/12t and 4c/8t for much less. If they overclocked as well as intel then there would be no reason to even get the i7 7700k unless you wanted that small IPC boost. The fact that you can get these types of core counts and potential overclocks at these price ranges is quite impressive. If you want super good single core performance then you will likely want to stick to intel.

[DocSwag]

Not surprised at all, it's been a thing for ages. Probably means we could see the quad core variants going as high as 4.4 or 4.5 ghz, which would be nice.

[Ryujin2003]

But, can it run Crysis?

 

What would be different to allow a higher clock than deactivating cores on R7? Would there be fundamental architecture differences?

[MageTank]

4 hours ago, zMeul said:

reminds me of Fiji 

 

people that expected better OC from less cores CPUs - told you so!

I take it you didn't read the source? They said it would offer a "better OC", but only by about 100-200mhz. Need I invoke the wisdom of Vin Diesel?

 

[RagnarokDel]

6 hours ago, VicBar said:

Seing Kabylake overclock to 5GHz easily I can't help but feel unimpressed and dissapointed by this marginal improvement over R7...  

I really wanted at least that level of OC. I know the world record was broken with the R7 but I can barely afford the CPU and AIO, I ain't getting into liquid nitro...

You could have a 2.5 ghz processor outperform a kaby lake 5ghz processor given proper IPC. 

[sgloux3470]

2 hours ago, Ryujin2003 said:

But, can it run Crysis?

Actually no, it can't.

 

Crysis has hated AMD CPU's for years now.  (On top of already hating Windows 7 and newer) and it hates Ryzen the most of all.

 

2 & 3 run fine though.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

The wall for 1800x is 4.2ghz so the clock speeds haven't improved. I'd imagine more 1600x would be able to hit that than 1700 would. 

 

I wouldn't count on a b350 board for 24/7 max oc though. Those boards already have toasty vrms. 

[captain cactus]

4 hours ago, Pohernori said:

The wall for 1800x is 4.2ghz so the clock speeds haven't improved. I'd imagine more 1600x would be able to hit that than 1700 would. 

 

I wouldn't count on a b350 board for 24/7 max oc though. Those boards already have toasty vrms. 

Depends on the board, really.

[handymanshandle]

X370/A300 are like X99 quality

and what, B350 can be like Z170/H170 quality?

[Citadelen]

13 hours ago, zMeul said:

reminds me of Fiji 

 

people that expected better OC from less cores CPUs - told you so!

A 4690K overclock better than a 5960X, does it not?

[porina]

25 minutes ago, wcreek said:

X370/A300 are like X99 quality

and what, B350 can be like Z170/H170 quality?

Not exactly like for like, but X370 is loosely comparable in positioning to Z170/Z270, and B350 is more like H170/H270, although on AMD's side you still get OC. There is no Ryzen equivalent to X99 yet.

[matrix07012]

I'm still gonna get the R7 1700 though.

[79wjd]

3 hours ago, Citadelen said:

A 4690K overclock better than a 5960X, does it not?

Yes, but the 5960x has less overclocking headroom because of power/heat issues, not because of architecture/manufacturing issues (read: design, not issues), which is what seems to be limiting ryzen to around 4ghz.