AMD VEGA official details

[PineyCreek]

I'll wait for reviews and comparisons from people that have the money and time to do so, then profit from their reporting.  Procrastination means making a more informed decision.  Besides, both nVidia's and AMD's (back to the ATI era) software packages for their video cards have always been massively bloated...but AMD/ATI's has always (IMO) sucked a little bit more.  I hope to see it improve with VEGA.

[orangecat]

Won't be going Vega since I just bought a G-Sync monitor =(

[Humbug]

8 minutes ago, PineyCreek said:

but AMD/ATI's has always (IMO) sucked a little bit more.  I hope to see it improve with VEGA.

AMD seems to have has now surpassed Nvidia in driver quality.

 

Difficult to objectively measure though.

[Notional]

17 minutes ago, Kilobytez95 said:

Won't be going Vega since I just bought a G-Sync monitor =(

The wonders of proprietary technology causing vendor lock in.

[orangecat]

Just now, Notional said:

The wonders of proprietary technology causing vendor lock in.

Yep. Vega looks cool too =(

[Trixanity]

1 hour ago, Notional said:

The wonders of proprietary technology causing vendor lock in.

If only Intel got off their ass and implemented variable refresh rate on their GPUs; that would put major pressure on the market to adopt it more broadly and on Nvidia to act.

[Notional]

Just now, Trixanity said:

If only Intel got off their ass and implemented variable refresh rate on their GPUs; that would put major pressure on the market to adopt it more broadly and on Nvidia to act.

 

Not really. Whatever Intel does, will have no influence on NVidia imho. There are already way more Freesync monitors (adaptive sync) on the market than gsync. As long as NVidia makes money off of gsync monitors, as well as vendor lock in their customers, they have no reason to adopt adaptive sync. If people want to change NVidia's mind, they have to stop buying gsync monitors, and maybe nvidia all together for a time. Competition only works, if the consumers aren't brand loyal.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 hours ago, Humbug said:

AMD seems to have has now surpassed Nvidia in driver quality.

No they haven't. AMD's launch drivers suck, so it is easy for them to improve performance with driver updates. 

[Nena Trinity]

Does anyone know if the game new Prey will launch at the same time Vega? Or if you get free with Vega? o3o

[Carclis]

17 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

Does anyone know if the game new Prey will launch at the same time Vega? Or if you get free with Vega? o3o

It's doubtful. I'm expecting a release at Computex.

[Humbug]

23 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

No they haven't. AMD's launch drivers suck, so it is easy for them to improve performance with driver updates. 

is that your only metric for assessing driver quality? How much performance improves.

You care not about long term stability, features, bugs, long term support etc?

 

[Citadelen]

20 hours ago, AkatsukiKun said:

Or you could find a dual socket AM4 motherboard when that happens although I'm not too well versed between dual socket cpus.

Whether a single 8 core will perform better than dual 4 core.

With infinity fabric AMD is able to attain near perfect (or perfect) scaling up to 64 cores.

[Nena Trinity]

5 minutes ago, Humbug said:

is that your only metric for assessing driver quality? How much performance improves.

You care not about long term stability, features, bugs, long term support etc?

 

AMD have a record of giving longer support but less stable so kinda hard to say if you ask me! o3o

[Humbug]

5 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

AMD have a record of giving longer support but less stable so kinda hard to say if you ask me! o3o

Cool

 

My experience with my R9 290 and my friend's experience with his R9 280x has given us both a very good impresssion about AMD's driver quality. And we have been both using these GPUs for years now after previously having Nvidia. This has been the most hassle free GPU ownership that the two of us have had... in terms of everything just working as it should.

 

But ya I know that both companies have issues from time to time.

[WereCat]

2 hours ago, Kilobytez95 said:

Won't be going Vega since I just bought a G-Sync monitor =(

I am in the same boat with you, if I got Free-Sync I would be looking on AMD only then. However, there was no such monitor with IPS and Free-Sync when I was shopping so... looking forward for Vega but hopefully it will push NVIDIA prices down so that I can pick 1080ti for cheaper.

[PCGuy_5960]

14 minutes ago, Humbug said:

You care not about long term stability, features, bugs, long term support etc?

The Nvidia drivers are more feature-rich (Ansel, Shadowplay). Bugs, I never had an issue with Nvidia's drivers. Long terms support, I wouldn't keep a card for more than 3 years, so I don't really care.

Edited April 23, 2017 by PCGuy_5960
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[Princess Luna]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

The Nvidia drivers are more future-rich (Ansel, Shadowplay). Bugs, I never had an issue with Nvidia's drivers. Long terms support, I wouldn't keep a card for more than 3 years, so I don't really care.

The only issue I have is with Geforce Experience poorly driver updating, if you go express settings on the drivers updates it'll just clog up as it doesn't seem to delete the old stuff properly... leading to the need for DDU after a couple updates.

 

Aside from it all good so 9/10 for nVidia efforts.

 

Shadowplay was one of the best implementations they had the only only only issue I have with it is how it saves screenshoots as temps files instead of allowing the user to have a dedicated folder for each gaming SS like the video captures.

[Coaxialgamer]

VEGA 

Very Expensive and Gargantuan Asic

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The only issue I have is with Geforce Experience poorly driver updating, if you go express settings on the drivers updates it'll just clog up as it doesn't seem to delete the old stuff properly... leading to the need for DDU after a couple updates.

Really? I never had this issue...

[Princess Luna]

7 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Really? I never had this issue...

After I let GE update to these latest drivers I went to play Bioschock Inifinite, I average 160 fps with everything max out at 2560x1080p with the Titan X , started up the game and was making 55fps with 30% GPU usage... decided to DDU and reinstall this driver fresh new... back 160~170fps... So I'm a bit more cautious with the driver auto updates, gonna only update when I am going to play game with a new game ready driver and probably do the DDU long method rather than let it update automatically just to be safe.

[Humbug]

9 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

The only issue I have is with Geforce Experience poorly driver updating,

From my geforce days my main sore point as far as drivers were concerned was that they used to send incorrect color signal over HDMI assuming that I have connected my GPU to an HDTV. It caused slightly washed out colors and existed for years and years. I am sure many people used it without realizing they are not getting optimal image quality.

I had to manually fix it each time by creating a custom refresh rate, e.g. 59.9Hz instead of 60Hz which somehow made the Nvidia drivers go into the correct color range for monitors full RGB (0-255 colors).

http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cards-dont-full-rgb-color-through-hdmiheres-a-fix/

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Humbug said:

http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-cards-dont-full-rgb-color-through-hdmiheres-a-fix/

This is from 2014. Nvidia has improved their drivers since then so this issue is not present anymore 

[Humbug]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

This is from 2014. Nvidia has improved their drivers since then so this issue is not present anymore 

I certainly hope so hehe, the problem persisted for  years without being addressed. I don't have to follow up since I switched.

[Valentyn]

23 minutes ago, Humbug said:

I certainly hope so hehe, the problem persisted for  years without being addressed. I don't have to follow up since I switched.

It's been "fixed", but only since late 2015; and has popped up briefly one in a while in drivers as well since then.

It was always complete hell trying to use secondary HDMI monitors; and it still sees my one monitor as an HDTV instead of a monitor.

I remember having to sort it out via 3rd party means on Windows and OS X for years.

 

[Everendless]

Still running 2x MSI R9 290 on Alphacool blocks. I cannot wait for some new high end graphics competition.