AMD Capsaicin And Cream Stream "Countdown"

[Bananasplit_00]

1 minute ago, stconquest said:

They did mention something about access to some service for gaming, with some element of play for free.  All I saw is Free Vega GPUs for everyone!

its going to be some sort of probably paid game streameing. i dont even have close to the internet speed to use anything like that and i prefer to have my hardware on hand because all i see when something starts streameing across the internet is anoying latency up the wazoo for most people

[Misanthrope]

2 hours ago, goodtofufriday said:

"Why does amd need to rush their product launch because of the 1080ti? Oh right they dont. And this wasn't expected to be a product launch. That would take attention away from ryzen, which would be stupid. 

Rush? You know how fucking long it's been a since the Fury X, their last top of the line card? I think it's been over a year, most of that time the 1080 has been without contest at all. How on earth is that fucking rushing? 

[Valentyn]

6 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Rush? You know how fucking long it's been a since the Fury X, their last top of the line card? I think it's been over a year, most of that time the 1080 has been without contest at all. How on earth is that fucking rushing? 

Aye, it'll be two years come the summer.

Although considering all the sandbagging with Ryzen and not giving away too much performance even on that before last week I hope they're doing the same with Vega.

I might be overly hopeful, but I hope they have something really good coming soon.

[goodtofufriday]

20 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Rush? You know how fucking long it's been a since the Fury X, their last top of the line card? I think it's been over a year, most of that time the 1080 has been without contest at all. How on earth is that fucking rushing? 

Trust me i know i have a fury x. Im personally fine with more time for new tech. Plus it "should" be announced come end of march. 

[Misanthrope]

1 hour ago, Valentyn said:

Aye, it'll be two years come the summer.

Although considering all the sandbagging with Ryzen and not giving away too much performance even on that before last week I hope they're doing the same with Vega.

I might be overly hopeful, but I hope they have something really good coming soon.

Well it might help I can concede as much, but on a previous reply somewhere (It's a bit hectic so I can't remember if this thread or another) I made the point that nearly 2 years kinda lagging behind partially (Because Polaris on the mid range was/is competitive) is a far cry from the 5+ years of lack of pressure on intel that is much more comfortable in their lead. So it's understandeable somehow, that their CPU efforts are coming back into focus.

 

Though if I am to be honest, I would much rather they would just go back to Ati and AMD as separate companies instead back in those days both companies where much better at facing their respective competitors, much better than the last years anyways.

[Doobeedoo]

Oh can't wait to see the new card in full detail already.

[rattacko123]

Summary?

[SammoFS]

can i hype up gtx 1080 ti now?

[Prysin]

6 hours ago, Vode said:

Man with their 300mm2 die I actually don't want to know what margins they have. Probably 0.02% LOLZ

FX wasnt that poor in margin. After 2013, the kinks in the production was mostly ironed out and yields were great enough for them to bin for the 9370, 9590, 8320e, 8370e... If yields were low, and costs high, they wouldnt have tried to bin for these products.

[Prysin]

3 hours ago, Rika Shiguma said:

can i hype up gtx 1080 ti now?

what's the point, it's a rather meh product. Nothing unexpected. nothing new. nothing innovative (unless you consider cut down silicon innovative).

[tomotomov92]

Just now, Prysin said:

what's the point, it's a rather meh product. Nothing unexpected. nothing new. nothing innovative (unless you consider cut down silicon innovative).

How is it cut down? They have cut down so little this time that it's actually not a big deal at all.

Everyone calling them for reducing the memory from 12GB to 11GB when they've increased the memory speed?

Will it make difference at all?

[Prysin]

5 minutes ago, tomotomov92 said:

How is it cut down? They have cut down so little this time that it's actually not a big deal at all.

Everyone calling them for reducing the memory from 12GB to 11GB when they've increased the memory speed?

Will it make difference at all?

please read the full spec sheet. not just the marketing materials. It is cut down and clocked up. A equally clocked titan XP would be faster.

[tomotomov92]

Just now, Prysin said:

please read the full spec sheet. not just the marketing materials. It is cut down and clocked up. A equally clocked titan XP would be faster.

I've read everything. Have you checked the difference between the cut they did to M100 from Titan to 980 Ti compared to P102 from Titan to 1080 Ti?

The core for 1080 Ti is almost not cut-down. Also higher clocks with the same number of processor units - it's going to be fast.

No one says it will outperform the Titan XP by anything - but it's so close to it that you won't notice the 0-2 fps loss from the Titan XP to the 1080 Ti...

[Prysin]

12 minutes ago, tomotomov92 said:

I've read everything. Have you checked the difference between the cut they did to M100 from Titan to 980 Ti compared to P102 from Titan to 1080 Ti?

The core for 1080 Ti is almost not cut-down. Also higher clocks with the same number of processor units - it's going to be fast.

No one says it will outperform the Titan XP by anything - but it's so close to it that you won't notice the 0-2 fps loss from the Titan XP to the 1080 Ti...

They cut off the ROPs... many shaders with fewer ROPs = same issue as Fury X has. It gets capped hard in terms of maximum potential for graphics workloads. Compute = beast. But graphics, aka gaming, need ROPs... Cutting shaders doesnt always hurt gaming that much, depending on how much you cut.

[rattacko123]

Timeline:

17:53 Stream begins

19:00 Raja talks about afterparty and history of capsaicin

24:09 Raja starts talking about Vega, no Vega product launch today.

25:40 Vega Architecture

27:00 the Sword of bahubali (indian movie), VR movie rendered in real time.

30:02 bahubali vega rendering in real time, actually begins 30:40

31:57 willhelm scream, raja talks about realtime VR capture using Vega + Ryzen

35:17 Vega High-Bandwidth Cache Controller, Drivers are ready for performance enhancing features.

36:33 Demo of HBCC on vs off, in memory limited scenarios (2GB VRAM used in a 4GB recommended game)

38:16 Rapid Packed Math (Vega feature)

39:30 Rapid Packed Math on vs off in tressfx. >Double the hairs!!

40:52 Radeon Virtualized Encode, partnering with liquidsky to stream games to millions of gamers using GPU virtualization technology

43:20 Ian McLoughlin LiquidSky CEO playing Battlefield 1 on a surface pro, streaming from cloud server. The experience of a high end GPU for the masses (assuming you have a fast internet connection :P), worlds first free gaming streaming service using ads with your game playing experience. HBCC is very good for this because they can restrict the amount of memory significantly with little performance impact.

46:50 Raja moving away from vega ;-; (Vega Summary)

48:58 Sniper Elite 4 Developer Presentation, Chris Kingsley begins

49:30, Dual RX 480 with 100% scaling

52:20 radeon pro duo, in relation to Sniper Elite 4 development, DX12

53:40 Raja talks about Ryzen, 8 cores is good

54:44 Dan Baker Oxide Games, apparently he is a vocalist or something, 100% usage on 16 threads. Nitrous Engine excellent multi-threading and DX12 focus.

59:05 Roy Taylor: Leaping forward in VR. Screen door effect breaking immersion, developing is a set of trade offs (high framerate vs high game entities vs high resolution). Asynchronous reprojection.

1:02:46 Dan O'Brien: HTC Vive, Async Reprojection in Steam VR, new tracker,

1:05:25 Frank Vitz: New AMD employee, Unreal Engine, Deferred vs Forward Rendering. Forward rendering removes overhead (increases fps) and improves Anti Aliasing quality. Robo Recall

1:10:00 Tom Sanocki: VR movie, using subsurface scattering.

1:13:18 Hess Barber: Unreal engine version 4.15 with forward renderer. Gameplay footage of ROM Extraction: Overrun. ROM Extraction 75% off ($5) during GDC on steam.

1:18:41 Creators of Raw Data for HTC vive and oculus (Nathan Burba): New game, Sprint Vector. Forward rendering is also a topic here.

1:22:58 Kyle Bennett: "Inside VR" TV show, documenting VR development/ecosystem. Ryzen is able to provide compelling VR experiences.

1:28:38 Raja is back! Raja talks about collaborating with Bethesda (id Software) with DOOM, which was a highly optimized vulkan title with excellent AMD optimization.

1:31:20 Partnership with Bethesda to optimize their titles for AMD Ryzen and Radeon. Engineering collaboration, not a marketing strategy (like AMD evolved for example). Long term strategic relationship. Raphael Colantonio, talks about Prey, currently being optimized with help from AMD engineers. Raja is excited for what Bethesda will release in the future. Bethesda partnership is huge

1:34:39 Raja announces an extra spicy announcement which is the Vega GPU name: Radeon RX Vega. The audience gets Vega T-shirts. Spicy food and great ice cream in after party.

1:38:00 Stream ends.

 

9 hours later: everyone gets drunk in after party

 

TL;DR

A few AMD Vega architecture details are shown, shows demos of how the memory performs well in memory restricted scenarios and shows much better performance in maths heavy scenarios like Tress fx which needs calculation for each individual hair. AMD has managed to get Vega drivers working, so no more of those "fiji-drivers" that were used during CES. Vega is good for virtualization scenarios, so AMD partnered with LiquidSky and now game streaming will be available to millions of people for free, but with ads. A bunch of VR stuff is mentioned. The rest of the livestream talks about developer relations: VR developers, developers optimizing for AMD hardware, and major Bethesda Partnership.

The product name of Vega is revealed but no other details about the product are announced. All we know is expected performance (gtx 1080+) and a vague release date of Q2 2017.

 

Hey OP @Rika Shiguma can you put this timeline in the OP pls, or just mark my post as solved  
 

[Vode]

23 hours ago, Prysin said:

what's the point, it's a rather meh product. Nothing unexpected. nothing new. nothing innovative (unless you consider cut down silicon innovative).

...but it says it's the Ultimate Geforce card. It must be great!

[Prysin]

33 minutes ago, Vode said:

...but it says it's the Ultimate Geforce card. It must be great!

i think they mentioned something along those lines regarding the Titan Z too...

[SammoFS]

19 hours ago, rattacko123 said:

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yeah i will, but really 90% of the stream was just some brit bloke speaking about vr.