Advice for budget pc build (First Ever Build)

[Arif787]

Budget (including currency): 1500-1700 AUD

Country: Australia 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Pc will be used for more content creation apps but will still be occasionally gamed on.

Some AI, machine learning/deep learning, 3d design so solidworks and finally 4k video editing and rendering in Davinchi resolve. 

Games- some racing and flight sims, city skylines, Minecraft, need for speed. 

 

This build will be done later in the year. 

 

Requirements: be able to handle these workloads whilst also having a YouTube video playing on the second monitor. 

I have a USB C hub, does a USB A to C adapter exist such that it doesn't impact the performance if not then USB C either on the front panel or rear IO of MOBO, WIFI if possible however ethernet is fine. Bluetooth is a must though.  

 

Don't mind AMD or Intel CPU.

 

Current setup: Acer nitro 5 with intel 11370h and gtx 1650, 32GB ram. will be carrying forward storage. no need for peripherals, will need windows if it can't be carried forward. 

ATM just about runs most of what I need it to do however is definitely suffering from laptop thermal and power limits. 

 

Monitors 1- LG 1440p ultrawide with 160Hz refresh and AMD Freesync, so a GPU that can utilize this would be preferred. 

Monitor 2- 1080p 60Hz

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bfc4fy

[podkall]

33 minutes ago, Arif787 said:

Games- some racing and flight sims, city skylines, Minecraft, need for speed.
Some AI, machine learning/deep learning, 3d design so solidworks and finally 4k video editing and rendering in Davinchi resolve.

that's a lot of passion for "little" budget, which ones are more important?

 

this could work:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($599.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1548.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 22:30 AEST+1000

[podkall]

1600 with cooler: (both lists miss Windows, while it's expensive, you can always download Windows installer on your USB and get un-activated Windows for free)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($599.00 @ Scorptec)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1607.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 22:33 AEST+1000

[brob]

34 minutes ago, Arif787 said:

This build will be done later in the year. 

 

Both AMD and Intel are expected to announce and probably release next gen desktop CPU in Q3 this year.

 

Tech and pricing change rapidly. Repost two or three weeks out from your purchase date.

 

 

[Arif787]

gaming is probably of lower importance on the list, I still want to be able to just not spectacularly and not the main use of the PC.

 

[brob]

Just now, Arif787 said:

gaming is probably of lower importance on the list, I still want to be able to just not spectacularly and not the main use of the PC.

 

 

Then you probably want to edit the OP to stress that content creation apps are more important than gaming.

[Arif787]

4 minutes ago, brob said:

 

Both AMD and Intel are expected to announce and probably release next gen desktop CPU in Q3 this year.

 

Tech and pricing change rapidly. Repost two or three weeks out from your purchase date.

 

 

Yea i had a feeling that might be said 

[DoctorNick]

Depending on what kind of AI workload you're going to use this for, Nvidia might be a better choice. Overall 4060 is just a little slower for gaming, but if you plan on using this mainly on windows, Nvidia is the way to go:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNhK9c

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.00 @ Computer Alliance) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card  ($467.88 @ JW Computers) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.00 @ Centre Com) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit  ($189.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $1316.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 22:47 AEST+1000

 

Also you might be able to find a retail key of windows 11 home or pro for a lot cheaper

 

@Arif787 edit: forgot to quote

[Arif787]

 

21 minutes ago, DoctorNick said:

Depending on what kind of AI workload you're going to use this for, Nvidia might be a better choice. Overall 4060 is just a little slower for gaming, but if you plan on using this mainly on windows, Nvidia is the way to go:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/dNhK9c

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($169.00 @ Computer Alliance) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: Asus DUAL OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card  ($467.88 @ JW Computers) 
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ULTRA ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.00 @ Centre Com) 
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit  ($189.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $1316.24
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-21 22:47 AEST+1000

 

Also you might be able to find a retail key of windows 11 home or pro for a lot cheaper

 

@Arif787 edit: forgot to quote

I do plan on sticking with windows 

[OddOod]

50 minutes ago, Arif787 said:

gaming is probably of lower importance on the list, I still want to be able to just not spectacularly and not the main use of the PC.

 

Welcome to the forums!
I'd probably recommend going hard on the CPU with a decent air cooler (50$) and skimp on the GPU. You can then save for a fat GPU. NV is expected to drop 50 series in Q4 so used 40 series will be easy to come by. 
Given your interest in ML, I'd recommend looking at used 1080/ti's. They are starting to die, but it's got a whackton of VRAM which is important

[igormp]

4 hours ago, podkall said:

Video Card: *XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  ($599.00 @ Scorptec)

AMD is a no-go for machine learning.

[podkall]

35 minutes ago, igormp said:

AMD is a no-go for machine learning.

I know but Nvidia is expensive for budget builds unless you're fine with mid-range GPU that could be closer to low range.

 

you see, ideal build would be this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Palit JetStream OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card  ($810.70 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1819.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:23 AEST+1000

 

But that's expensive, you have to cut back to cheaper CPU on AM4 or Intel that loosens the price by 100AUD,

 

or you gotta decide between,

 

RTX 4060Ti 8GB:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($579.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1681.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:27 AEST+1000

 

or RTX 3060 12GB:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  ($399.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1501.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:29 AEST+1000

 

 

• Idk what kind of AI OP wants to use, but some utilize better with more VRAM, or just like VRAM in general, some don't, there's a choice, but obviously even if you need less you might feel the slower performance.
• If the AI stuff isn't that important either, then I assume 4060Ti might be good shot even if it's the 8GB version.

[podkall]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Palit JetStream OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card  ($810.70 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1819.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:23 AEST+1000

Honestly, edge scenario, the CPU cooler itself is 50AU$, there's not much to cut corners around but might be possible to cut price to 1700$.

[filpo]

5 hours ago, Arif787 said:

Budget (including currency): 1500-1700 AUD

Country: Australia 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Pc will be used for more content creation apps but will still be occasionally gamed on.

Some AI, machine learning/deep learning, 3d design so solidworks and finally 4k video editing and rendering in Davinchi resolve. 

Games- some racing and flight sims, city skylines, Minecraft, need for speed. 

 

This build will be done later in the year. 

 

Requirements: be able to handle these workloads whilst also having a YouTube video playing on the second monitor. 

I have a USB C hub, does a USB A to C adapter exist such that it doesn't impact the performance if not then USB C either on the front panel or rear IO of MOBO, WIFI if possible however ethernet is fine. Bluetooth is a must though.  

 

Don't mind AMD or Intel CPU.

 

Current setup: Acer nitro 5 with intel 11370h and gtx 1650, 32GB ram. will be carrying forward storage. no need for peripherals, will need windows if it can't be carried forward. 

ATM just about runs most of what I need it to do however is definitely suffering from laptop thermal and power limits. 

 

Monitors 1- LG 1440p ultrawide with 160Hz refresh and AMD Freesync, so a GPU that can utilize this would be preferred. 

Monitor 2- 1080p 60Hz

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bfc4fy

 

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

I know but Nvidia is expensive for budget builds unless you're fine with mid-range GPU that could be closer to low range.

 

you see, ideal build would be this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Palit JetStream OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card  ($810.70 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1819.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:23 AEST+1000

 

But that's expensive, you have to cut back to cheaper CPU on AM4 or Intel that loosens the price by 100AUD,

 

or you gotta decide between,

 

RTX 4060Ti 8GB:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($579.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1681.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:27 AEST+1000

 

or RTX 3060 12GB:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  ($399.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1501.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:29 AEST+1000

 

 

• Idk what kind of AI OP wants to use, but some utilize better with more VRAM, or just like VRAM in general, some don't, there's a choice, but obviously even if you need less you might feel the slower performance.
• If the AI stuff isn't that important either, then I assume 4060Ti might be good shot even if it's the 8GB version.

GPU will be more important for AI so more vram is more better

Since they're using a 1440p ultrawide CPU isn't too important so even a 5600 is fine 

And they're porting over their storage btw

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($169.00 @ Computer Alliance) 
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: *ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($142.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: *Patriot Viper Steel 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($96.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($798.77 @ JW Computers) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($68.77 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.00 @ Centre Com) 
Total: $1457.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:38 AEST+1000

 

Am5 is possible though

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($798.77 @ JW Computers) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($68.77 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.00 @ Centre Com) 
Custom: 7500F (no iGPU) ($205.00)
Total: $1647.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:40 AEST+1000

[podkall]

4 minutes ago, filpo said:

Am5 is possible though

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com) 
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers) 
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia) 
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($798.77 @ JW Computers) 
Case: Deepcool MATREXX 40 3FS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($68.77 @ JW Computers) 
Power Supply: MSI MAG A750GL PCIE5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($124.00 @ Centre Com) 
Custom: 7500F (no iGPU) ($205.00)
Total: $1647.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:40 AEST+1000

of course, even with 7600 you can get up to below 1700AU$, considering storage isn't needed

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4070 12 GB Video Card  ($798.77 @ JW Computers)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1653.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:44 AEST+1000

[igormp]

16 minutes ago, podkall said:

I know but Nvidia is expensive for budget builds unless you're fine with mid-range GPU that could be closer to low range.

 

you see, ideal build would be this:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($95.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: Palit JetStream OC GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 16 GB Video Card  ($810.70 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1819.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:23 AEST+1000

 

But that's expensive, you have to cut back to cheaper CPU on AM4 or Intel that loosens the price by 100AUD,

 

or you gotta decide between,

 

RTX 4060Ti 8GB:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Zotac GAMING Twin Edge GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8 GB Video Card  ($579.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1681.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:27 AEST+1000

 

or RTX 3060 12GB:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.00 @ Centre Com)
Motherboard: MSI B650M GAMING PLUS WIFI Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($219.00 @ PLE Computers)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($173.36 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($189.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: *Inno3D Twin X2 GeForce RTX 3060 12GB 12 GB Video Card  ($399.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Deepcool CC560 ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($85.00 @ Scorptec)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($78.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1501.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-22 03:29 AEST+1000

 

 

• Idk what kind of AI OP wants to use, but some utilize better with more VRAM, or just like VRAM in general, some don't, there's a choice, but obviously even if you need less you might feel the slower performance.
• If the AI stuff isn't that important either, then I assume 4060Ti might be good shot even if it's the 8GB version.

Yeah, I get it, but since AMD is basically useless for one of the points OP mentioned, even if it delivers better value in other scenarios, the best option is to go with a worse perf overall, but that has proper hw support. Both of your options do seem good (really similar to your previous one with a different GPU).

[Arif787]

I would like to first thank everyone who has submitted a build. You guys have been a great help.

 

The final choices I definitely think that NV would be the correct choice for the GPU, I'm going between the higher VRAM options so the 4060ti 16GB and the 4070 12GB maybe even the 3060 12GB, all seem like good candidates for my use case. If anyone could shed some light or at least where to look for more information that would bee fine too.

 

As for CPU, whilst AM4 I cheaper rn, I feel like AM5 will be better in the long run. Probably Ryzen 5 7600

(also just out of curiosity no one went with Intel, is that because LG1700 and 14th gen are going to be replaced soon, or is Intel not that great in this price range?)

 

Thank you to everyone who was able to find a MOBO that had some form of USB C but was still affordable, I would not have been able to do both, same with RAM. Also for reminding me that AMD GPUs are not going to be useful for AI workloads. 

 

Final question if I factory reset my laptop boot drive and then use it in the new computer will the Windows license work in that, or will I have to download Windows and then activate it with say a key? 

 

Final list https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LHtLRK Thank You @podkall

it is over 1500 however it's for a good enough reason and still below 1800 so that's fine.

[podkall]

4 hours ago, Arif787 said:

(also just out of curiosity no one went with Intel, is that because LG1700 and 14th gen are going to be replaced soon, or is Intel not that great in this price range?)

Intel's more about core count more or less, it also is stuck on LGA1700 socket, no new CPUs for it, but it's still decent choice if the price is good,

 

maybe if @PDifolco is bored, he can try an intel build for your use case, it might be as strong as an AM4 build, it might be bit faster or on par with 7600,

 

4 hours ago, Arif787 said:

Final question if I factory reset my laptop boot drive and then use it in the new computer will the Windows license work in that, or will I have to download Windows and then activate it with say a key?

there's a chance it will work, but also a problem that Windows recognizes hardware, and if you swap entire thing or lot of it it might lock itself,

 

you can be ready with a new Windows install on like a USB drive, those are free, it's just unactivated Windows and will have features disabled + watermark, but it can be downloaded on Microsoft's official website.

[Sychicyuto]

22 hours ago, Arif787 said:

Budget (including currency): 1500-1700 AUD

Country: Australia 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Pc will be used for more content creation apps but will still be occasionally gamed on.

Some AI, machine learning/deep learning, 3d design so solidworks and finally 4k video editing and rendering in Davinchi resolve. 

Games- some racing and flight sims, city skylines, Minecraft, need for speed. 

 

This build will be done later in the year. 

 

Requirements: be able to handle these workloads whilst also having a YouTube video playing on the second monitor. 

I have a USB C hub, does a USB A to C adapter exist such that it doesn't impact the performance if not then USB C either on the front panel or rear IO of MOBO, WIFI if possible however ethernet is fine. Bluetooth is a must though.  

 

Don't mind AMD or Intel CPU.

 

Current setup: Acer nitro 5 with intel 11370h and gtx 1650, 32GB ram. will be carrying forward storage. no need for peripherals, will need windows if it can't be carried forward. 

ATM just about runs most of what I need it to do however is definitely suffering from laptop thermal and power limits. 

 

Monitors 1- LG 1440p ultrawide with 160Hz refresh and AMD Freesync, so a GPU that can utilize this would be preferred. 

Monitor 2- 1080p 60Hz

 

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bfc4fy

Do you mind buying used?

[igormp]

10 hours ago, Arif787 said:

The final choices I definitely think that NV would be the correct choice for the GPU, I'm going between the higher VRAM options so the 4060ti 16GB and the 4070 12GB maybe even the 3060 12GB, all seem like good candidates for my use case. If anyone could shed some light or at least where to look for more information that would bee fine too.

Could you explain what kind of models you plan on running, and if you're going to do any kind of training or just inference using some specific app?

Because the 4060ti may be the better option for larger models (it can run models that neither the 4070 nor 3060 can), but if that's not relevant, the 4070 is way faster.

[brob]

10 hours ago, Arif787 said:

(also just out of curiosity no one went with Intel, is that because LG1700 and 14th gen are going to be replaced soon, or is Intel not that great in this price range?)

 

One reason for not suggesting an Intel build is the lack of AVX512 support, (leveraged by some AI/ML libraries), in current desktop models.

 

[Arif787]

10 hours ago, igormp said:

Could you explain what kind of models you plan on running, and if you're going to do any kind of training or just inference using some specific app?

Because the 4060ti may be the better option for larger models (it can run models that neither the 4070 nor 3060 can), but if that's not relevant, the 4070 is way faster.

Generally 2 kinds image and prediction, image would be object recognition and tracking with some prediction such as colour, and prediction, which will train on a large dataset then create weights. VRAM and gpu is important for image, and system memory and CPU tend to get used for prediction style models. 

[igormp]

3 hours ago, Arif787 said:

Generally 2 kinds image and prediction, image would be object recognition and tracking with some prediction such as colour, and prediction, which will train on a large dataset then create weights. VRAM and gpu is important for image, and system memory and CPU tend to get used for prediction style models. 

But could you give specifics about the actual architecture, such as model size and whatnot? Also, during your training pipeline, your batch sizes and similar stuff.