Don't plug 2 chargers on your new 13/15inch MacBook Pro.... you'll break your system.

[Arri]

I miss magsafe already.

[QueenDemetria]

2 minutes ago, tlink said:

the macbooks are dualcores, they always have been and they are specifically designed to be low power usage, they do this by compromising on other things such as raw performance. you have to understand that cpu's are way past their rapid development stage. intel made a 20nm jump in 2008, we will never be doing that again unless there will be some revolutionary physics breakthrough. we will be making 3nm or 4nm jumps from now on, until eventually the industry stalls and it will just be optimizing architectures which is also very limited. also, apple laptops NEVER had big powerbricks they always where around 55 watts. but most phone chargers can easily fit into any pocket, none of the apple laptop chargers can. 

Why are you telling me this? You can buy the 29 watt, 61 watt, and 87 watt right now and they are all compact(and I can fit the 29/61 watt in my pocket, even though my pockets are tiny). Apple isn't the only one that makes compact chargers either, so given that most "every day" laptops use sub 65w I don't see the issue(sure high end laptops will need bigger adapters, or 100w+, but this market is relatively small).

[DrMikeNZ]

29 minutes ago, QueenDemetria said:

Like we did with USB 1.0 and 1.1 and 2.0 and 3.0?  I know 3.0/3.1 use more pins than 2.0/1.1/1.0, but at least they were all(on some level) compatible. I don't see any reason why Type C cant be upgraded, or have some level of backwards/forwards compatibility. I had USB ports starting in the 90's, what if I have Type C ports in the 30's?(2030's fuck this makes me feel old)

The type-A port for 3.0 was quite different with an increase in pin density (although backwards compatible-ish), type-C is already pretty pin dense. It isn't really something we have to worry about, for a while, but they could expand it by putting another row of pins next to it like the USB 3.0 micro-B revision to maintain compatibility.

It is probably more likely that optical connections would be used for bandwidth hungry applications.

I would expect that the superseding standard will come along well before USB 2.0 type A is out of common usage, and type-C would likely be around much longer than that. Either way we will still have to deal with an array of adapters for a long time.

[Nowak]

3 hours ago, RedRound2 said:

Pretty much only one person has experienced that and that is the infamous and arrogant Louis

What makes him arrogant? He's someone who fixes Apple laptops all the time for a living, I'd say it's safe to assume that he knows more about Apple laptops and everything wrong with their design, ranging from the cases to the electrical design, than you, GoodBytes, or... well, really, anyone else here, based on his experience alone.

 

If it's his behavior... I'm from the northeastern US, as is Rossmann. Everyone is like that.

[SSL]

More evidence of core rot at Apple. The upper echelons are so busy navel gazing and blowing smoke up their own asses that they have no clue what is going on down in the trenches of their company where actual development takes place.

 

For awhile, these kinds of braind-dead problems were mostly limited to Mac OS, but it seems that it has spread to their Mac hardware line as well.

 

It's just embarrassing.

[goodtofufriday]

1 hour ago, Daring said:

What makes him arrogant? He's someone who fixes Apple laptops all the time for a living, I'd say it's safe to assume that he knows more about Apple laptops and everything wrong with their design, ranging from the cases to the electrical design, than you, GoodBytes, or... well, really, anyone else here, based on his experience alone.

 

If it's his behavior... I'm from the northeastern US, as is Rossmann. Everyone is like that.

From nyc. Can confirm. We are all like this. Aint got time to tip toe around peoples feelings. 

[Squirrel724]

This is basic stuff. It's not hard to implement charging from multiple sources and even easier to build a failsafe for if you do attempt to charge from multiple sources.

[Xanthe_2871]

I wonder if that can be fixed with an update. If the laptop can ignore additional power sources then it shouldn't break! Simple fix, I hope!

[The Belgian Waffle]

2 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

I wonder if that can be fixed with an update. If the laptop can ignore additional power sources then it shouldn't break! Simple fix, I hope!

I'm really surprised that they hadn't thought of that. Same for the USB killer thing, and for other stuff. I'm not that old, but I used to look at Apple's products and say "this is why people like it, it's the attention to the details that makes what Apple it". Guess that they changed a bit since then  

[Xanthe_2871]

2 minutes ago, The Belgian Waffle said:

I'm really surprised that they hadn't thought of that. Same for the USB killer thing, and for other stuff. I'm not that old, but I used to look at Apple's products and say "this is why people like it, it's the attention to the details that makes what Apple it". Guess that they changed a bit since then  

I can understand them overlooking the USB killer since a USB device shouldn't do what the killer does, but they must have known about this. They advertise being able to charge it from either side as a selling point!

[Nowak]

9 hours ago, goodtofufriday said:

From nyc. Can confirm. We are all like this. Aint got time to tip toe around peoples feelings. 

We're pretty arrogant too, over here in southeastern Massachusetts.

[The Belgian Waffle]

Just now, Xanthe_2871 said:

I can understand them overlooking the USB killer since a USB device shouldn't do what the killer does, but they must have known about this. They advertise being able to charge it from either side as a selling point!

Yeah, exactly ! Plus if other Macs have this kind of protection, why not putting it in the flagship?

[Xanthe_2871]

Just now, The Belgian Waffle said:

Yeah, exactly ! Plus if other Macs have this kind of protection, why not putting it in the flagship?

I'm tempted to say "So they can make more money" but I feel like they wouldn't go that far. 

[You_are_a_cunt]

Is that a new feature?

Oh, wait. Apple doesn't have features anymore. Just problems. *dodges barrage of bullets*

[The Belgian Waffle]

4 minutes ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

I'm tempted to say "So they can make more money" but I feel like they wouldn't go that far. 

Well.. Selling 80€ dongles for something we had free last year isn't that far from what you said. 

[Xanthe_2871]

Just now, The Belgian Waffle said:

Well.. Selling 80€ dongles for something we had free last year isn't that far from what you said. 

Great point! It's not. Maybe we'll have a new -gate on our hands. Chargegate or USBCAppleMacBookChargeFailSucksgate.

[abazigal]

15 hours ago, suicidalfranco said:

how is charging through c a benefit?

this doesn't happen with magsafe

which makes the type-c for charging regressive in comparison 

and th magsafe port doesn't even need to be soldered on the mobo, it can stay on it's own as a daughterboard and plug in with a ribbon a cable or something like that without making any major changes to the mobo

Imagine an external monitor that supplies power, display and data over a single USB-C cable. You get all this simply by plugging a single cable to your laptop, compared to 2-4 cables today. 

 

Under the right setup, it can be a real convenience. 

[daniielrp]

16 hours ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

This is moronic. How the fuck did nobody at Apple ever get their heads around that case?

 

16 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

That is right! Apparently, there are no fail safe mechanism in place for the newly released Apple MacBook Pro 13 and 15inch, if you plug 2 or more power adapters into it by mistake. Say, you are at the library with another friend with the same system, and you exchange cables/adapters, and accidentally plug his charger in with yours (just a possible example), your MacBook Pro will no longer charge your battery, ever. It seems that the charging circuit breaks when you plug 2 chargers in.

 

So according to Apple, they did think of this and do have failsafes and mechanisms in place to deal with this issue. 

 

You can can read more about it here on this MacBook Pro info article, or just believe one youtuber who is absolutely not just doing this shit for the views and ad money. 

 

Quote:

 

"

• Your MacBook Pro draws power from only one power supply, even if more than one is attached—so using multiple power supplies will not speed up charging. 
• If you connect multiple power supplies to your MacBook Pro, the one that provides the most power will be used, regardless of the order in which you connected them. "

[abazigal]

3 minutes ago, daniielrp said:

 

So according to Apple, they did think of this and do have failsafes and mechanisms in place to deal with this issue. 

 

You can can read more about it here on this MacBook Pro info article, or just believe one youtuber who is absolutely not just doing this shit for the views and ad money. 

 

Quote:

 

"

• Your MacBook Pro draws power from only one power supply, even if more than one is attached—so using multiple power supplies will not speed up charging. 
• If you connect multiple power supplies to your MacBook Pro, the one that provides the most power will be used, regardless of the order in which you connected them. "

So one side is lying? 

 

Do I see a future Linus video? 

[daniielrp]

2 minutes ago, abazigal said:

So one side is lying? 

 

Do I see a future Linus video? 

Seems more like a Luke one  

[AlTech]

16 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

Yup. On the same video, you see him yanking the power cord as a test, and you can see that USB type-C connector holds so well, that the cable and port broke. So, imagine an actual trip... your system will fly off the table, hit the floor hard (breaking something possibly), your power cord is broken, and your USB Type-C cord is also potentially broken.

Surface Master Race . Never worry about laptops flying anywhere.

[DrMikeNZ]

10 hours ago, Daring said:

If it's his behavior... I'm from the northeastern US, as is Rossmann. Everyone is like that.

Definitely his behavior. Rossmann is a smart guy, and I haven't been able to disagree with his opinions on the few videos that I have watched, but I find it very hard to watch his videos. I respect what he does, but if I ever met him I would likely politely ask him to tone it down a little, apologise, then offer him a Mintie.

 

5 minutes ago, daniielrp said:

• Your MacBook Pro draws power from only one power supply, even if more than one is attached—so using multiple power supplies will not speed up charging. 
• If you connect multiple power supplies to your MacBook Pro, the one that provides the most power will be used, regardless of the order in which you connected them. 

They clearly expected a situation where two power supplies were used, Although they seem to have assumed that one would deliver more power than the other, but what if both power supplies are of equal power. The poor Macbook might not know which one to choose, and could get freaked out then explode. /s

[daniielrp]

1 minute ago, DrMikeNZ said:

Definitely his behavior. Rossmann is a smart guy, and I haven't been able to disagree with his opinions on the few videos that I have watched, but I find it very hard to watch his videos. I respect what he does, but if I ever met him I would likely politely ask him to tone it down a little, apologise, then offer him a Mintie.

 

They clearly expected a situation where two power supplies were used, Although they seem to have assumed that one would deliver more power than the other, but what if both power supplies are of equal power. The poor Macbook might not know which one to choose, and could get freaked out then explode. /s

Then the first point should apply, it'll only draw power from one.

[DrMikeNZ]

1 minute ago, daniielrp said:

Then the first point should apply, it'll only draw power from one.

But which one? You can't expect a Macbook to make complex life altering decisions like "port 1" or "port 2", it is just too much stress for a notebook.

[RedRound2]

39 minutes ago, daniielrp said:

 

So according to Apple, they did think of this and do have failsafes and mechanisms in place to deal with this issue. 

 

You can can read more about it here on this MacBook Pro info article, or just believe one youtuber who is absolutely not just doing this shit for the views and ad money. 

 

Quote:

• Your MacBook Pro draws power from only one power supply, even if more than one is attached—so using multiple power supplies will not speed up charging. 
• If you connect multiple power supplies to your MacBook Pro, the one that provides the most power will be used, regardless of the order in which you connected them. "

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@GoodBytes I think you should update your OP but you won't, won't you?