Oculus Rift has a new minimum spec

[Bensemus]

1 hour ago, goodtofufriday said:

I imagine because windows 7 does not natively have usb3 drivers. if course there are drivers you can install, but intel tries to keep that on the hush hush. 

That doesn't make sense as USB3 is usable on 7 and the rift used USB3 before.

[Zodiark1593]

So apparently, my PC is now VR Ready. Still won't be jumping on it for the foreseeable future. 

[goodtofufriday]

48 minutes ago, Bensemus said:

That doesn't make sense as USB3 is usable on 7 and the rift used USB3 before.

it is usable, just not out of the box like on windows 8 and 10. Thus for the sake of less user confusion they say to use windows 8. Most windows 7 machines are running their usb3 ports on usb 2 speeds because a generic driver is being used and usb3 was disabled in bios because of win7 was installed.

 

Again its most likely to avoid issues of win 7 needing to be setup to use usb3 through both bios and driver install. 

[Sakkura]

2 hours ago, Energycore said:

Wait a second, you can do Oculus on an Athlon X4 860K now?!

(It's the same die as the 4350 just different socket)

The 860K is Steamroller, the 4350 is Piledriver. Also the 860K lacks L3 cache. 

 

Regardless, it should still be about enough. 

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

The 860K is Steamroller, the 4350 is Piledriver. Also the 860K lacks L3 cache. 

 

Regardless, it should still be about enough. 

Ah, do the Steamrollers have more L1/2 cache to compensate?

 

I would think that OCing it would bring it up to par with the 4350.

[DrMikeNZ]

6 hours ago, PLME888 said:

I think your pricing is a bit off...

Yeah, but that is out of my control.

Spoiler

 

[Himommies]

I like how people are marketing a 200 dollar VR GPU to people who can afford a 600 to 1000 dollar VR headset

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

Ah, do the Steamrollers have more L1/2 cache to compensate?

 

I would think that OCing it would bring it up to par with the 4350.

No. Or, well, I think the instruction cache is larger. But the idea is the Athlon is a (slightly) lower-end chip that's one generation newer. So there's a small improvement to IPC, which (partially) counteracts the loss of L3 cache and lower stock clocks.

 

The Athlon x4 760K was the equivalent chip in the previous generation.

[Energycore]

4 hours ago, Sakkura said:

No. Or, well, I think the instruction cache is larger. But the idea is the Athlon is a (slightly) lower-end chip that's one generation newer. So there's a small improvement to IPC, which (partially) counteracts the loss of L3 cache and lower stock clocks.

 

The Athlon x4 760K was the equivalent chip in the previous generation.

Ah I see. AMD didn't bother to make new quad-module or even tri-module CPU on the newer optimizations.

[Prysin]

VR isnt going to sell unless it becomes truly affordable.

It will be interesting to see how PSVR will affect things. It does sit in the "affordable yet expensive" price range. And with 40m+ PS4s sold, it has a large enough install base to "matter"

[Prysin]

37 minutes ago, Energycore said:

Ah I see. AMD didn't bother to make new quad-module or even tri-module CPU on the newer optimizations.

they reworked the 28nm process with Bristol Ridge so its way more efficient.

With the top end Excavator V2 (Bristol) you should see slightly greater then top end Steamroller SKU performance, at 50-65w rather then 95w+

[Sakkura]

15 minutes ago, Prysin said:

VR isnt going to sell unless it becomes truly affordable.

It will be interesting to see how PSVR will affect things. It does sit in the "affordable yet expensive" price range. And with 40m+ PS4s sold, it has a large enough install base to "matter"

With the lowered minimum spec, the Rift has close to 20 million capable desktop PCs out there today, plus some number of laptops (harder to determine how many). 

 

But yeah it needs to get cheaper. Breaking the $500 barrier would help a lot. 

[Teddy07]

Anyone with less then a very high end pc should just buy a ps4 pro and ps4 vr

[bcredeur97]

would love to see a $300 VR headset in a year or so...

 

I've played with a vive before. It's great, but I just can't justify the price tag  

[Energycore]

35 minutes ago, Prysin said:

they reworked the 28nm process with Bristol Ridge so its way more efficient.

With the top end Excavator V2 (Bristol) you should see slightly greater then top end Steamroller SKU performance, at 50-65w rather then 95w+

The key here is, more efficiency = more headroom to push clocks.

 

But I bet having the southbridge on-die works against efficiency.

[Raytsou]

Does this mean my 380 can run VR now?

[Prysin]

4 hours ago, Energycore said:

The key here is, more efficiency = more headroom to push clocks.

 

But I bet having the southbridge on-die works against efficiency.

SB generally doesnt produce much heat unless peripherals are under massive load...

 

4 hours ago, Raytsou said:

Does this mean my 380 can run VR now?

Prob not. you probably need a 470... 380X should in theory do it, but i bet the 380 and 380X isnt qualified through the Occulus drivers yet.

[werto165]

22 hours ago, TopDollar said:

Maybe this means the stupid "Your computer does not meet the minimum recommended specifications..." bubble floating above my oculus home screen will go away now. Running an i5-3570k and 2xGTX970s and have never had a performance issue in VR.

So a single 970 then? Sli VR needs to happen sooner or later. It's only fun house that supports it Afaik. 

[NumLock21]

Here is the $499 VR gaming pc, from CyberPower

[TopDollar]

2 hours ago, werto165 said:

So a single 970 then? Sli VR needs to happen sooner or later. It's only fun house that supports it Afaik. 

Yeah, I have the second card set as a physx card for that reason

[Sakkura]

1 hour ago, NumLock21 said:

Here is the $499 VR gaming pc, from CyberPower

Check out that cable management of the PCIe power connector.

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

Check out that cable management of the PCIe power connector.

I've seen worse than that. One at BB, where the cables are pulled so tight, the gpu is literally warping.

[alextulu]

I don't understand, why a VR headset has minimum system requirements. Shouldn't the requirements depend on the individual games ?

This is like having minimum requirements on a monitor.

[Sakkura]

26 minutes ago, alextulu said:

I don't understand, why a VR headset has minimum system requirements. Shouldn't the requirements depend on the individual games ?

This is like having minimum requirements on a monitor.

Right, but they're putting this out as a guideline to what people will need for the majority of content, at least in the Oculus store. And you'll want to take their recommendation pretty seriously unless you're only going to play Mountain Goat Mountain VR.

[werto165]

5 hours ago, Sakkura said:

Right, but they're putting this out as a guideline to what people will need for the majority of content, at least in the Oculus store. And you'll want to take their recommendation pretty seriously unless you're only going to play Mountain Goat Mountain VR.

Mountain goat is the best game ever though