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Apple sued over iPhone 6 and 6 Plus' unresponsive touchscreen

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

sarcasm? 

 

I'm one of those people. 

Oh my bad

 

College is a bitch on my brain

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

Computer Specs:

Spoiler

Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333

Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR

 

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Phones all sorta suck right now. Everyone has it's pros and cons but they all cost way too much and all have a factor that is love it or hate it. 

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Betcha with all these iphones breaking around the same time, that apple is gonna drop the iphone 7.

 

Just like designing every computer they make to thermal throttle reducing its lifespan, having a quality product just doesn't make them money fast enough.

Its much easier to have products that die quickly, or require dozens of expensive proprietary accessories to use, so that people keep coming back and spending money for that shiny new apple logo.

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4 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

No offense, but apple didn't care because the iSheep would buy it anyways.... Defective or not, people would still buy it because it's an iPhone... 

As a friend of mine said, "They charge that much because they pay for the branding". The reality of it, is that people want to look the best by having the best phone on the market, they don't care if the phone doesnt do anything, so long as it's covered in 20 carat gold

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28 minutes ago, Atmos said:

Betcha with all these iphones breaking around the same time, that apple is gonna drop the iphone 7.

 

Just like designing every computer they make to thermal throttle reducing its lifespan, having a quality product just doesn't make them money fast enough.

Its much easier to have products that die quickly, or require dozens of expensive proprietary accessories to use, so that people keep coming back and spending money for that shiny new apple logo.

Apple products don't exactly have a longevity issue....I can't think of a single person with a Mac who had it die (excluding the white macbooks, those were crap). The thermal throttling might limit performance a bit, but it by no means limits their lifespan. And they don't thermal throttle because of a cost saving measure but rather because of a relatively poor cooling system that's limited by the rest of the internal layout.

 

Most people I know who have/who use Macs keep them for at least 5-7 years before replacing them. Whereas most people I know who have a Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc... laptop usually replace them every three or so years. 

 

18 minutes ago, jkeasley said:

As a friend of mine said, "They charge that much because they pay for the branding". The reality of it, is that people want to look the best by having the best phone on the market, they don't care if the phone doesnt do anything, so long as it's covered in 20 carat gold

It also doesn't help that, at least in the US, contracts were a major thing until recently -- so an iPhone really was never that much more expensive than an Android flagship. And most people assume Android is crap -- because when they tried it (a few years ago), it was a stuttery mess with subpar devices.

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49 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Apple products don't exactly have a longevity issue....I can't think of a single person with a Mac who had it die (excluding the white macbooks, those were crap). The thermal throttling might limit performance a bit, but it by no means limits their lifespan. And they don't thermal throttle because of a cost saving measure but rather because of a relatively poor cooling system that's limited by the rest of the internal layout.

 

Most people I know who have/who use Macs keep them for at least 5-7 years before replacing them. Whereas most people I know who have a Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc... laptop usually replace them every three or so years. 

 

It also doesn't help that, at least in the US, contracts were a major thing until recently -- so an iPhone really was never that much more expensive than an Android flagship. And most people assume Android is crap -- because when they tried it (a few years ago), it was a stuttery mess with subpar devices.

I will say that the OnePlus line is extremely good for their price

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Just now, jkeasley said:

I will say that the OnePlus line is extremely good for their price

Until last year when I chose to switch off contract (because it was cheaper), a 64gb iPhone 6s+ would have cost me $400 -- the same amount as the OP3. So when you consider that a lot of the US is still contract (and will continue to stay on contract) the iPhone really isn't overpriced. As more and more people switch off contract it will really be interesting to see what Apple does -- if they don't drop prices they're going to get seriously undercut by the likes of OP, Huwaei, Honor, etc... And the bias people have towards what they know is good (and what they knew was bad) eventually disappears over time. Although, to be clear, I'm not saying nobody would buy an iPhone at full price -- I personally bought my 64gb 6s+ for $850 knowing full well I could've gotten a comparable Android phone for much cheaper (however, I prefer iOS, and I also have a Mac so having my texts/calls/video calls forwarded seamlessly between my Mac and my iPhone alone makes the extra $400~ worthwhile to me. I also have an SP3, and I would seriously consider swapping it for a 13" iPad Pro if I could without having to add anything -- I basically only use it for taking handwritten notes). 

 

Regardless, it will be interesting to see what happens in the years to come, and the fact that the iPhone 7 looks to be a 6ss, is making me a bit nervous for Apple. 

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So is this going to be another GTX 970, where they win the lawsuit and everyone who bought an iPhone 6 or 6 Plus gets a whopping 50 cents?

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11 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

I can't think of a single person with a Mac who had it die (excluding the white macbooks, those were crap).

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16 hours ago, Tomsen said:

People don't buy it because it says apple alone, but rather what apple (should) stand for. Quality and ease of use.

Apple do not want their brand to be affiliated with bad quality, I can guarantee you that.

well, given the recent models, they have quite a bit of reputation to "repair"... and things aren't exactly getting better now that "aging" issues of older models start showing slowly.

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So this is what you do if you don't like a product... You sue the company *facepalm*

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2 hours ago, Prysin said:

well, given the recent models, they have quite a bit of reputation to "repair"... and things aren't exactly getting better now that "aging" issues of older models start showing slowly.

Considering previous iPhone models don't have the same "aging" issues :P

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51 minutes ago, -TesseracT- said:

So this is what you do if you don't like a product... You sue the company *facepalm*

No, its what you do when a company refuses to repair a known and documented design flaw that is essentially bricking your device and turning it into a $700 piece of scrap that lights up.

 

 

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3 hours ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

So is this going to be another GTX 970, where they win the lawsuit and everyone who bought an iPhone 6 or 6 Plus gets a whopping 50 cents?

i think it'd gonna end up like Macs who had production deffects that Apple wouldn't recognize and end up in legal fees and all iPhone 6 and 6 Plus get extended warranty to cover just that issue alone. But by time they reach that point iPhone 6/6 Plus users will already moved to the newer iPhone just like with the Macs

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20 hours ago, Tomsen said:

People don't buy it because it says apple alone, but rather what apple (should) stand for. Quality and ease of use.

I switch from Android to iPhone about 6 month ago, because I got a 6 plus as gift, and my old phone is dying. Now, my old android is a 1st gen moto X which does not feature very good hardware and its laggy so the efficient part I can't really compare, since now we have 4GB ram and s820 SoCs.

BUT the ease of use is total nonsense. I like android much much more! ios is much less easy to configure especially when apps can't really affect how system work whereas in android you can simply download apps and they have gadgets and launchers staff, which is really handy. Sure android loss some security measure because of this.

And for quality side, I dont think its tat much different nowadays when you compare a flagship android with iPhone, when you pay the same amount of money of course. you can't expect the same quality from 300-500 phone to be on par with a 800-900 one. And now, design defect from apple as well. Yes its not happening to every 6/6plus users but its still a oversight that affects many ppl.

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16 hours ago, valdyrgramr said:

I really don't know about the "ease of use" thing.  I've given old people windows vs Mac's OS, and I've given them android vs ios.  They seemed to like Windows and Droid.  I take it more as personal pref over "ease of use".  I never understand the "ease of use" myself when there is a major compatibility issue with Apple's OSes and even Linux.  WINE isn't really that useful anymore.

I dont either, not really buying into apples eco-system for my own private equipment. From what I do have experienced, it is the whole setup of your apple eco-system and using the functionality that includes in an easy manner.

 

When one introduces technology to new people, they have a tendency to select what oneself prefer. Could be a combination that you yourself have a easier time explaining it, how cumbersome it seems for you and more.

 

3 hours ago, Prysin said:

well, given the recent models, they have quite a bit of reputation to "repair"... and things aren't exactly getting better now that "aging" issues of older models start showing slowly.

How many people are in reality been affected by the last couple of issues with the newer models? To be honest, it seems like 1out of a million.

Imo, the aging-issue seems to improve (I see a lot of people on iphone 4-5). It used to be much more apparent from what I remember.

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5 minutes ago, Devin92 said:

I switch from Android to iPhone about 6 month ago, because I got a 6 plus as gift, and my old phone is dying. Now, my old android is a 1st gen moto X which does not feature very good hardware and its laggy so the efficient part I can't really compare, since now we have 4GB ram and s820 SoCs.

BUT the ease of use is total nonsense. I like android much much more! ios is much less easy to configure especially when apps can't really affect how system work whereas in android you can simply download apps and they have gadgets and launchers staff, which is really handy. Sure android loss some security measure because of this.

And for quality side, I dont think its tat much different nowadays when you compare a flagship android with iPhone, when you pay the same amount of money of course. you can't expect the same quality from 300-500 phone to be on par with a 800-900 one. And now, design defect from apple as well. Yes its not happening to every 6/6plus users but its still a oversight that affects many ppl.

See my response: 

Should explain much of it.

 

Never said that iphone is of higher quality, but iphone brand is more affiliated with high quality than android is or even samsung (unless you look specifically at samsung high-end phones) is.

Please avoid feeding the argumentative narcissistic academic monkey.

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5 minutes ago, Tomsen said:

I dont either, not really buying into apples eco-system for my own private equipment. From what I do have experienced, it is the whole setup of your apple eco-system and using the functionality that includes in an easy manner.

 

When one introduces technology to new people, they have a tendency to select what oneself prefer. Could be a combination that you yourself have a easier time explaining it, how cumbersome it seems for you and more.

 

How many people are in reality been affected by the last couple of issues with the newer models? To be honest, it seems like 1out of a million.

Imo, the aging-issue seems to improve (I see a lot of people on iphone 4-5). It used to be much more apparent from what I remember.

it used to be much more visible on older ones. But im seeing my "friends" 4 and 5s starting to fall apart now. Slowly shit is not working right. From LTE antennae cutting out sporadically to screen turning off without notice (screen-saver is ultra nazi).

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20 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

A phone exploded using a microusb to type c connector, in China, the land of cheap and hazardous products

Chinese manufacturers really should pause for 2 seconds to look at the wiring diagram instead of just guessing o_O

 

19 hours ago, iDeFecZx said:

I can change my background in the gallery, same as on windows. iPhone's just make it awkward to do

Iphone users can't change their wallpaper from the gallery? :( A moment of silence for all deprived iPhone users. This has been basic stuff since old android 2.0 and Windows 7

 

19 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I guess it depends on your luck... 

The only problem I had with one of my samsungs is when I dropped my S4 Mini and the screen cracked. After 2 days the amoled panel had completely blacked out, after dying a slow death - but I could still use my phone via my bluetooth headphones and smartwatch, and control it via other phones using a text command app.

I remember when it rang out in class and the teacher didn't believe me when I said the screen doesn't work. When I got it back, the teacher was baffled to hear the startup sound with no image on screen.

That phone has been long repaired and retired for my S5, which I've had for a few years now. The s7 looks like a compelling option but the non-removable battery is a potential dealbreaker.

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5 minutes ago, Tomsen said:

See my response: 

Should explain much of it.

 

Never said that iphone is of higher quality, but iphone brand is more affiliated with high quality than android is or even samsung (unless you look specifically at samsung high-end phones) is.

osx is fine.lts pretty similar to linux i agree, I have a mac air myself. but ios is what i dont like. its just not as user friendly as my experience with android. just a few example:

1.on my 6 plus, you have to touch a button to activate speech control ( or plugged in), like wtf?? whats the purpose of speech control then? sure ios 9 solved this, but thats abt 2-3 yrs late, where my 1st gen motoX have 'okay google now'.

2.no back buttons, especially on plus modals, its such a painful thing to reach out to the top left corner to hit tat back button. yes you can swipe from left edge to back but not as responsive as a back button.

3. no way to have a gadget on ur home screen. so you have to open an app to say listen to music or take a note. its not a loooot of extra work, but its one/two less tap for android to do the same thing, which is handy.

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19 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Not all people... Apple fanboys would do that...

have you ever owned an iphone?

 

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39 minutes ago, jaggysnake57 said:

have you ever owned an iphone?

 

No, I have an iPod though... And I will never buy an iPhone, because it sucks (personal opinion)

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3 hours ago, Devin92 said:

osx is fine.lts pretty similar to linux i agree, I have a mac air myself. but ios is what i dont like. its just not as user friendly as my experience with android. just a few example:

1.on my 6 plus, you have to touch a button to activate speech control ( or plugged in), like wtf?? whats the purpose of speech control then? sure ios 9 solved this, but thats abt 2-3 yrs late, where my 1st gen motoX have 'okay google now'.

2.no back buttons, especially on plus modals, its such a painful thing to reach out to the top left corner to hit tat back button. yes you can swipe from left edge to back but not as responsive as a back button.

3. no way to have a gadget on ur home screen. so you have to open an app to say listen to music or take a note. its not a loooot of extra work, but its one/two less tap for android to do the same thing, which is handy.

1. Easy way to avoid it suddenly activating speech control out of accident. Is people really using speech control so that is should be activated all the time?

2. Responsiveness is most likely the same. I do agree, I would prefer a dedicated back button.

3. Gagdets doesn't make thing easier, it is the other way around. You don't need to open an app to listen to music (can start spotify from lockscreen as an example).

 

Real apple users could easily make a list the other way around.

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Apple is just lame brand with load of iSheeps buying every single product of them regardless it's trash or broken.

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19 hours ago, Brinith said:

No, its what you do when a company refuses to repair a known and documented design flaw that is essentially bricking your device and turning it into a $700 piece of scrap that lights up.

Didn't Apple say that they can't fix the problem?

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