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Hackers use Congressman’s iPhone to Demo Ability to Listen into Calls, Monitor Texts, Track Location

Source: http://9to5mac.com/2016/04/18/ss7-hack-iphone-congressman/

 

Note: This isn't unique to iPhones rather all phones. The hack is done using mobile network and cell towers

 

60 Minutes invited the hackers to prove their claims by giving a brand new iPhone to Congressman Ted Lieu and telling the hackers nothing more than the phone number. The hackers later replayed recordings they’d made of calls made on that iPhone …

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They were able to do it by exploiting a security flaw they discovered in Signaling System Seven — or SS7 […] The SS7 network is the heart of the worldwide mobile phone system. Phone companies use SS7 to exchange billing information. Billions of calls and text messages travel through its arteries daily. It is also the network that allows phones to roam.

 

In addition to recording calls and texts, he also demonstrated that he was able to track the Congressman’s location, even with the iPhone’s GPS turned off, using cellphone tower triangulation. Additionally, he was able to log the phone number of everyone who called the phone. None of this required any ability to access the iPhone itself, only the mobile networks.

 

Nohl said that the SS7 vulnerability was well-known in some quarters, and that there was a reason it hasn’t yet been fixed.

 

The ability to intercept cellphone calls through the SS7 network is an open secret among the world’s intelligence agencies — -including ours — and they don’t necessarily want that hole plugged.

 

Lieu said that this was totally unacceptable.

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The people who knew about this flaw and saying that should be fired. You cannot have 300-some million Americans – and really, right, the global citizenry – be at risk of having their phone conversations intercepted with a known flaw, simply because some intelligence agencies might get some data. That is not acceptable.

 

This is a pretty nasty security hole and IMO the only way to fix it (after all its the government) is i guess to threaten to publish the hack. Privacy vs. Security Survelliance is gonna be a long dirty battle

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Yeah the NSA does this all the time. Like no joke. The military also showed how hackers could take a picture from your phone and then make a 3D model of you house based off the pictures and then rob you

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27 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

Yeah the NSA does this all the time. Like no joke. The military also showed how hackers could take a picture from your phone and then make a 3D model of you house based off the pictures and then rob you

That's interesting. Is their a video ? 

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if only the data that leaves was somehow coded, or cryptic, or end to end something crypt whatsthatnameagain,  in such way that it would be impossible to understand what coming and going unless you are and the end of the line receiving or sending those bits of data. Too bad encryption only helps terrorists who put bombs and think about the children and should consequently be outlawed or weakened. 

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4 minutes ago, MonkeyFace said:

Here comes the new "service fee" for making phone lines secure!

*sigh* Here comes Telstra and Comcast to give customers another reaming.

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"What's this? That spying thing we allowed means random people can spy on me?"
 

(talking about backdoors people)

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Um hasn't everyone known about this vulnerability for at least a year now...

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And to think the US govt wants to weaken encryption... Yeah I know, this isn't Apple's fault, but the networking stuff used here has no encryption whatsoever so everybody's free to listen in. With just a phone number... And of course, because "think of the children" this will never get patched.

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lol of course when something affects them then the congress people take action. 

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i should start a tinfoil factory & invite @Trikstari to inaugurate it! we should need sufficient supply to cover all peoples needs

Details separate people.

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So if this happens, and SS7 is replaced, would 911 still work?

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A guide to cracking GSM was published on Hackaday.com back in 2013, it only took 30$ in hardware.

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10 hours ago, cesrai said:

That's interesting. Is their a video ? 

I think I saw it on the forum or maybe it wasn't. Just look up Dreamy Smurf and search around there

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Why is he mad though? He got nothing to fear if he got nothing to hide. That congressman must be a pedo or terrorist to have such a reaction to this, right?

Because I have been told that those groups of people are the only ones that cares about privacy. Everyone else is perfectly fine with this kind of thing happening.

/sarcasm

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Is this some new vulnerability with ss7? Cause I've heard of it (or something similar) quite a long time ago and a quick google search gave me this article from the Washington post talking about pretty much the same thing. So is this something new or just really old news being picked up just now by the source (9to5mac)?

 

As well as this LTT article posted last year by @jos :

Which has the following source also talking about a 60 minutes show were they listened in on a call via the ss7 exploit:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/the-end-of-privacy-as-we-know-it-60-minutes-uncovers-huge-mobile-phone-security-vulnerabilities/news-story/565c4121c96ae1f790c31651211bbe29

 

So, again, has something happened or did this just now catch mainstream media's attention (I saw the guardian reporting on it now too)?

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