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An Air France Airbus A320 jet narrowly avoided colliding with a drone while descending for an approach to Paris Charles de Gaulle airport last month, the French aviation investigation agency BEA said.
 
The aircraft had been operating a service from Barcelona on Feb. 19 and was flying at 5,500ft when the co-pilot saw the drone.
 
He immediately disengaged the autopilot and carried out an avoidance manoeuvre while informing the captain of the drone’s presence, BEA said on its website.
 
The drone passed just five meters below the aircraft’s left wing, the agency said, classifying the incident as “serious”.
 
An investigation is still ongoing.

 

Source: http://www.inquisitr.com/2853561/paris-air-france-jet-narrowly-misses-collision-with-a-drone/

 

Damn that must be a nice drone, flying at 5,500ft

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thats almost 2 kilometers up in air? holy shit I didnt know drones could fly that high.

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Until innocents gets killed by some idiot, there will be plenty of idiots out there that will continue to fly into restricted air space.

 

 

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Just now, NumLock21 said:

there will be plenty of idiots out there that will continue to fly into restricted air space.

 

 

ftfy

 

Even after someone dies from some idiot, people are going to fly into restricted air space.  The penalty will just get worse.

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I thought the US was working on a laser to shoot down drones?  If they've got that working, they should install one at every airport; it's obviously necessary.

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Wow , tht's pretty high for a drone.

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3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I thought the US was working on a laser to shoot down drones?  If they've got that working, they should install one at every airport; it's obviously necessary.

They should do it like the Dutch. http://www.wired.com/2016/02/so-dutch-cops-are-teaching-majestic-eagles-to-hunt-drones/ 

 

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And then people get upset when governments issue regulations on owning/operating drones -___-'. Can you blame them for strict rules!?!

 

But can consumer drones even fly that high? I thought they maxed out at half that height? Was someone spying on the french o.O

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4 minutes ago, Mattyp92 said:

ftfy

 

Even after someone dies from some idiot, people are going to fly into restricted air space.  The penalty will just get worse.

Looks like they probably won't care about the penalty, if they can afford a drone that can fly that high.

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4 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I thought the US was working on a laser to shoot down drones?  If they've got that working, they should install one at every airport; it's obviously necessary.

Not sure the laser can shoot down drones that high up.  This should not be a thing though with ADSB you can pretty much tell where all the commercial planes are.  If you are going to fly that high you should be required to have an ADSB transceiver and then all this will go away.  Governments should realize that people are going to fly their shinny drones up high if they can so they should allow it as long as the drone has ADSB and is capable of avoiding planes with ADSB.  This would really push the addoption of ADSB as it would be a major security risk not to have it.

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All it will take is one big high profile incident, and all drones will be insanely restricted.  Purchase will require registration, drones will have to be traceable, registered flight plans, all that stuff.  Manufactures may even have to build in limitations to the devices.

 

Though, personally, I just think the punishments need to be pretty hefty, and make a few public examples that are plastered all over the news. 

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Everyone's too distracted/impressed by the height of the drone to care that a A320 nearly crashed because of some idiot.  The punishment for flying that close to planes should be getting sucked into the jet engine after it's landed.

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I can totally see drones being banned from sale in the U.S. before 2020. People are just going to continue doing these stupid things whether because they are ignorant or they're trolling so they get them banned on purpose.

 

Drones are going to be black market products soon.

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I didn't know drones can fly that high. There should be rules in place that prohibit this because sooner or later a drone will cause a nasty accident.

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4 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

I thought the US was working on a laser to shoot down drones?  If they've got that working, they should install one at every airport; it's obviously necessary.

That totally could never back fire

 

 

 

 

and is a drone really gone hurt a airliner? wouldn't the drone just squashed? 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, f22luke said:

Not sure the laser can shoot down drones that high up. 

The Military has lasers on Destroyers that shoot military grade  drones out of the sky.

I Think they can handle little toys. 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Arty said:

That totally could never back fire

 

 

 

 

and is a drone really gone hurt a airliner? wouldn't the drone just squashed? 

Depends on the weight and size of the drone, it will probably instantly destroy a engine if it went into the engine thou...even a smallish drone as they have li-pos as batteries...

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So...what was the drone doing that high up in the air, anyway? Taking pictures of clouds? Or birds? Can someone elaborate?

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8 minutes ago, Arty said:

and is a drone really gone hurt a airliner? wouldn't the drone just squashed? 

Most likely be the equivalent of a bird strike.

If it strikes a surface it could puncture the skin or cause a minor dent. 

If it gets pulled in through the air conditioner inlets it could cause the loss of an air-conditioning unit.

If it goes down the engine intake it could cause damage to the blades/internals. 

 

All of which won't cause an aircraft to crash, the engine will "require" an emergency landing, but time spent on the ground means the airliner isn't making money, and I can bet you that's their biggest fear. 

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19 minutes ago, Arty said:

and is a drone really gone hurt a airliner? wouldn't the drone just squashed? 

A drone could easily destroy a VERY  vital and expensive jet engine.

A heavy-duty drone could cause serious structural problems. If it hit the wind-screen that would not be fun for the drone, plane, and especially the pilots. Rapid decompression is scary and dangerous shit.

 

Drones are light-weight, but jets are moving 300mph+. Anything is going to hurt at those speeds. That's why bird-strikes and hailstones are such a problem. The bird and hailstones aren't that big of an issue until it becomes a 550 mph projectile.

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Is it me or are people getting more stupid, who knows what would happen to a jet engine if a drone flew into it but I for one do not want to be on a plane if it happens maybe nothing or maybe something I ain't taking a chance.

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12 minutes ago, Arokhantos said:

Wait a small drone ? or military grade drone aka big one? small drones should't even be able to fly up that high especially not the one's we all can get.

I agree,I also agree that if this is a mod someone may be killing their hobby.Perhaps just propaganda? Meh.

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8 hours ago, patrick3027 said:

Source: http://www.inquisitr.com/2853561/paris-air-france-jet-narrowly-misses-collision-with-a-drone/

 

Damn that must be a nice drone, flying at 5,500ft

I doubt there are many drones that can fly that high at stock. More than likely, someone upped the motors, props and probably batteries as well.

 

where C rating is the discharge rate, and AHs is capacity;

 

A 100C battery @ 5.0 AHs = 500 amps.

500 amps x 11.1 (for a 3 cell LiPo pack) = 5550 watts continuous output or ~ 7 horsepower.

 

3 cell packs are popular, and for larger models, there are probably more connected in parallel for multiplied amperage and capacity. High powered brushless motors and speed controllers are expensive, though very readily available, so even the strictest regulation will only kill off the stock models.

 

edit: Realistically, a quadcopter would not use it's full output on a constant basis for battery life reasons, and heat. Also not I didn't even touch on powertrain/motor specs such as KV or gearing. In addition there are battery packs with more cells in series for more voltage, or batteries may be connected in series instead of parallel (2x8S packs = 59.2 volts).

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