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Do You Believe Climate Change Is As Bad As People Say?

BuckGup

Personally I think it is all sorta messed up. Yes there is the fact the planet is getting warmer but we can observe in rocks that the planet has had major temperature changes for example, The Ice Age and it being a giant ball of fire.

This chart looks bad but if you look it is only from 1800 and it is in .00 degrees. I don't think we are really causing much of it and by the time the atmosphere is blocked out by green house gases we will be a smoldering pile of nuclear waste, we will be on a different planet or simply living in space.

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We are releasing massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the air because of burning fossil fuels. Yes, it is happening. Maybe not at a consistent rate, but it is happening. Though I think the proper term now is Climate Change.

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Bit of a moron if you don't believe it... 

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I can see what you mean but even if it is natural and not our fault (which it is) its still global warming/climate change.

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I'm not an expert to give an opinion. Expert opinion tells us that it is definitively happening, there are few things scientists agree on more.

 

Here it is physically noticeable. Summers are hotter, winters are hotter overall with extreme cold days. We were hit by a cyclone last year, and this town is generally too far south for that.

 

Magpies have attacked year round for the last two years as opposed to just 6 weeks during spring the preceding five. I think someones actually doing a study on that to find the cause.

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We are releasing massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the air because of burning fossil fuels. Yes, it is happening. Maybe not at a consistent rate, but it is happening. Though I think the proper term now is Climate Change.

Yes global warming is a result of climate change. It is actually colder in some places since the 1800s.

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There is no doubt climate change is real, it is happening all the time because the planet has wind and ocean currents, seasons change, solar activity, etc.  The climate will always change.  It's not like our planet and everything on it is frozen in time.  Everything changes with time.

 

But I still have some doubts whether mankind currently plays a significant or a major role in affecting/influencing climate change.

 

That's not to say I am going to waste and consume as much as I want.  Regardless of whether one believes in anthropogenic climate change or not, we humans have a responsibility to avoid doing things that are wasteful, to avoid consumption in excess, to take care of our planet and its amazing ecosystems.

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Yes global warming is a result of climate change. It is actually colder in some places since the 1800s.

 

It's the other way around

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The huricanes, cyclones, rising sea levels and in the UK major flooding, occouring more often its clearly happening.

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We are releasing massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the air because of burning fossil fuels. Yes, it is happening. Maybe not at a consistent rate, but it is happening. Though I think the proper term now is Climate Change.

Do we say Climate Change because some parts aren't becoming warmer?

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It's the other way around

Ah yeah, higher temps > changed weather patterns and everything else. Thanks

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Personally I think it is all sorta messed up. Yes there is the fact the planet is getting warmer but we can observe in rocks that the planet has had major temperature changes for example, The Ice Age and it being a giant ball of fire.

This chart looks bad but if you look it is only from 1800 and it is in .00 degrees. I don't think we are really causing much of it and by the time the atmosphere is blocked out by green house gases we will be a smoldering pile of nuclear waste, we will be on a different planet or simply living in space.

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Can anyone explain to me why somebody would not believe it?

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i dont believe in global warming, i believe in climate change. temperatures are increasing overall but the bigger issue is the ever increasing erratic behaviour of our weather

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The huricanes, cyclones, rising sea levels and in the UK major flooding, occouring more often its clearly happening.

People always say stuff like, it hasn't snowed this bad since 1958! Well there it happening in 1958 which on the scale of recorded history and temperature is not very long ago. When you start breaking history it is a bigger deal but again the Earth is so old and recorded history only spans so far. The Earth could just be doing it's thing

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Do we say Climate Change because some parts aren't becoming warmer?

Yes, and because it is supposedly causing more natural weather disasters.

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i dont believe in global warming, i believe in climate change. temperatures are increasing overall but the bigger issue is the ever increasing erratic behaviour of our weather

 

 

Can anyone explain to me why somebody would not believe it?

Maybe I should rephrase my statement. I guess I meant more in do you think it affects us as much as people talk about it

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I don't think we are really causing much of it and by the time the atmosphere is blocked out by green house gases we will be a smoldering pile of nuclear waste, we will be on a different planet or simply living in space.

 

A couple thoughts:

 

First of all, if we have the technology to colonize another planet or "simply live in space," why couldn't we instead have just fixed the planet we've already got? If we're in a situation that we have to colonize another planet or live in the cold, blackness of space, that represents a cataclysm for our species that is probably far worse than climate change.

 

Secondly, I have to ask: Do you just think that out of practically all of the world's best climate scientists, none of them have "thought of" the idea that the earth has gradual warming and cooling periods and taken that into account when they announce their findings?

 

Finally, whether or not the current increase in average global temperature is part of a natural warming cycle, what actually matters is that 200,000 years ago we didn't have 7 billion people to feed, with most of them living on coastlines. It's a slow-burning disaster that requires intervention in some form whether it's linked to human action or not.

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Maybe I should rephrase my statement. I guess I meant more in do you think it affects us as much as people talk about it

Yes, like I said, any low countries or land is getting flooded in the UK. Islands are vanishing at high tide. And the weather!

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Well global warming is kind of happening. At least a little bit, since the ice caps are starting to melt. But it is not really affecting you or me is it? It's still damn cold up here in Canada.

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The problem when people ask "Do you believe in climate change?" is the fact that they do NOT specify what kind of climate change.  Simply put, as I said earlier, the climate is ALWAYS changing.  Earth and everything on it is dynamic, we are not stuck in some stasis field.

 

A better way to ask the question would be "Do you believe that mankind is negatively affecting the climate or the planetary ecosystem/environment?"

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Of course I do, I'm not the CEO of an oil company and I'm not a politician in bed with the CEO of an oil company. Are there natural heating and cooling trends throughout the history of Earth? Yes. Would the Earth have inevitably warmed up? Yes, but over the course of thousands of years not within a single century like it is now. By releasing massive amounts of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere we've artificially accelerated our planet's natural climate change to the point that it has become a significant threat to us.

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Additionally when people start quoting "97% of scientist" they are quoting a number that is incorrect due to how the statistics were gathered.
 
If they gathered, for example, 20000 published papers regarding climate change and 97% of those papers said "anthropogenic climate change is real" that simply means 97% of those papers stated it was real.  That does not mean 97% of scientists, because there are thousands and thousands of scientists out there who do not publish papers on climate change or work in the field of climate change.
 
So yes, when politicians start quoting these figures in front of me, and scientists (or people who claim to be scientists) who should know better start doing the same.. I start having my doubts and losing my trust in those people.
 
You also have to keep in mind how scientific research is done and grants are received.  There are many people out there, many scientists, who are less popular and less reputable than some of their peers.  Many of them will do whatever they feel they must in order to get their grants and try to become more visible, more known.  It's difficult for the non-scientists, the common person, to tell the difference between a reputable scientist/researcher who has done their work properly and someone who has not.
 
Take the case of the anti-vaccination movement, look how out of hand it became after one so called scientist/researcher published a paper that ended up later on proven to be false.
 
Another case of the public believing whatever they read or whatever they feel most comfortable in believing is this
 

Publishing under the name Johannes Bohannon, he produced a deliberately bad study to see how the media would pick up their findings. He worked with a film-maker Peter Onneken who was making a film about junk science in the diet industry with fad diets becoming headline news despite terrible study design and almost no evidence.

 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bohannon#Misleading_chocolate_study

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Maybe I should rephrase my statement. I guess I meant more in do you think it affects us as much as people talk about it

it effects us more then what majority of the public thinks, 

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