14900k or 7800X3D?

[GreenLeaf]

So i am a gamer and a video editor and i am also want to start with 3d modeling, gaming is probably the main concern.

 

What should i buy a 14900k or a 7800X3D? 

 

(BTW i am not gonna buy either of this CPU's i am just interested to know)

[Blasty Blosty]

Intel are better for overall general use and productivity, so the 14900k would help with the video editing. For a pure gaming rig AMD is normally the way to go

[GreenLeaf]

I think ur write but will AMD be fine in either cases?

[Blasty Blosty]

Yeah of course, but intel will have the slight edge. 

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to CPUs, Motherboards and Memory

 

Also edited to title to be more descriptive. We don't allow X vs Y threads, such as Intel vs AMD. But you can ask question with something realistic. Like which CPU would be better for your chosen workload.

[GreenLeaf]

4 minutes ago, Blasty Blosty said:

Yeah of course, but intel will have the slight edge. 

Also gaming is fine in both CPU's 

But what should i get if  the system is mostly for gaming?

[Blasty Blosty]

3 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

Also gaming is fine in both CPU's 

But what should i get if  the system is mostly for gaming?

AMD

[WereCat]

22 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

I think ur write but will AMD be fine in either cases?

If you do CPU rendering for 3D applications then the Intel CPU will be faster but I'm assuming for 3D modeling you'll use your GPU most of the time so either CPU will be barely used... in which case the 7800X3D is a better gaming CPU.

[tkitch]

If gaming the the top priority by far:

Save money with the 7800x3d.

If you want to video edit and have that be betteR?

The 14900k is going to smoke the 7800x3d there. 

[PDifolco]

29 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

So i am a gamer and a video editor and i am also want to start with 3d modeling, gaming is probably the main concern.

 

What should i buy a 14900k or a 7800X3D? 

 

(BTW i am not gonna bye either of this CPU's i am just interested to know)

They aren't really comparable, not same category, vs a 14900K you should put a 7950X3D

And I'd get the 7950X3D, 14900K is a nightmare to cool and not efficient, even if it's faster in rendering (and equivalent in gaming)

[GreenLeaf]

1 minute ago, PDifolco said:

They aren't really comparable, not same category, vs a 14900K you should put a 7950X3D

And I'd get the 7950X3D, 14900K is a nightmare to cool and not efficient, even if it's faster in rendering (and equivalent in gaming)

I heard about all kinds of performance issues with the 7950x3d

[PDifolco]

4 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

I heard about all kinds of performance issues with the 7950x3d

From what I've seen, worst thing that can happen is that a game plays on the non 3D cached cores and then has a 7950X non 3D performance ...

Then no AM5 chip really works well with 4 RAM sticks, not especially the 7950X3D

[TVwazhere]

13 minutes ago, WereCat said:

I'm assuming for 3D modeling you'll use your GPU most of the time 

This depends on what type of 3D model software you're using. Blender and Maya are both very GPU intensive applications, but 2D programs like AutoCAD, or 3D parasolid programs like TinkerCAD, sketchup, Fusion 360 or Solidworks are very CPU bound (specifically high IPC, high frequency single core).

[GreenLeaf]

1 minute ago, TVwazhere said:

This depends on what type of 3D model software you're using. Blender and Maya are both very GPU intensive applications, but 2D programs like AutoCAD, or 3D parasolid programs like TinkerCAD, sketchup, Fusion 360 or Solidworks are very CPU bound (specifically high IPC, high frequency single core).

Blender 

[TVwazhere]

1 hour ago, GreenLeaf said:

Blender 

You should be fine with either CPU then.

 

I'm just bought the 7800x3D and I'm using Inventor (another Parasolid program that prefers high IPC) and it performs amazingly. I also dabble loosely in video editing with premier, but currently I'm using the CUDA cores on the RTX 4080 to render. 

[GreenLeaf]

7 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

You should be fine with either CPU then.

 

I'm just bought the 7800x3D and I'm using Inventor (another Parasolid program that prefers high IPC) and it performs amazingly. I also dabble loosely in video editing with premier, but currently I'm using the CUDA cores on the RTX 4080 to render. 

Yeah I probably will go 5090 after it's release 

[filpo]

1 hour ago, GreenLeaf said:

Blender 

14900k will soar high past that, almost halving the time. Skimming over the rest of your post 7800X3D will be best if you're mainly gaming. Though the 14700k is around the same price as the 7800X3D and about the same in the games where the extra cache isn't favoured as heavily and performs a lot better in blender

[GreenLeaf]

6 minutes ago, filpo said:

14900k will soar high past that, almost halving the time. Skimming over the rest of your post 7800X3D will be best if you're mainly gaming. Though the 14700k is around the same price as the 7800X3D and about the same in the games where the extra cache isn't favoured as heavily and performs a lot better in blender

But the main concern is gaming so 7800x3D for life

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

But the main concern is gaming so 7800x3D for life

if you want a good all round the 14700k will give a good experience, 7800X3D wins in essentially every single game (bar a few games which favour intel and its higher clocks)

What games do you play?

[GreenLeaf]

6 minutes ago, filpo said:

if you want a good all round the 14700k will give a good experience, 7800X3D wins in essentially every single game (bar a few games which favour intel and its higher clocks)

What games do you play?

Minecraft, Hogwarts legacy, cs2 and i can't but in my new systen i will play forza and maybe i will try halo infinite 

 

What about upgrade path?

[filpo]

Just now, GreenLeaf said:

What about upgrade path?

Upgrade path definitely AM5 is better

 

Just now, GreenLeaf said:

Minecraft

if you're using shaders then cpu won't matter too much for this game, if you're using a lot of mods without shaders then a 14700k would be better for minecraft (but 7800X3D isn't bad for it)

2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

Hogwarts legacy

they're basically identical for performance (7800X3D uses about 20W less though

2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

forza

Either will be great for this game, forza horizon 5 is sooo optimized 

3 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

cs2

7800X3D will be better for this

5 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

halo infinite 

basically identical 

[GreenLeaf]

7 minutes ago, filpo said:

Upgrade path definitely AM5 is better

 

if you're using shaders then cpu won't matter too much for this game, if you're using a lot of mods without shaders then a 14700k would be better for minecraft (but 7800X3D isn't bad for it)

they're basically identical for performance (7800X3D uses about 20W less though

Either will be great for this game, forza horizon 5 is sooo optimized 

7800X3D will be better for this

basically identical 

I think intel is better for content creation too right?

Maybe 7950X3D will be the winner 

[filpo]

6 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

think intel is better for content creation too right?

yes

 

7 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

Maybe 7950X3D will be the winner 

If you're willing to spend the money then yes

[GreenLeaf]

Just now, filpo said:

yes

 

If you're willing to spend the money then yes

I have a budget of like 5000 USD 

[filpo]

2 minutes ago, GreenLeaf said:

I have a budget of like 5000 USD 

then definitely

you don't even need to spend more than $2500 (though 4090 is quite bad value, 4080 super is better for gaming and productivity, 7900 XTX if just gaming and not using the gpu for productivity, since you're 3D modelling which uses the GPU the 4080 super is the one)

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