That "clock" that Mohamed Ahmed made is a 1980's Digital Alarm Clock

[spartaman64]

this is sally a robot my school's robotics team built if it was in that texas school they would have been arrested so fast

 

edit: bottom line is that the school and police had no grounds to believe that it is a bomb (this robot is more probable to be a bomb) whether he made it or not is irrelavent to the argument and they clearly didnt think it was a bomb as they didnt evacuate the school or call the bomb squad. arresting him was wrong and they have nothing to blame but themselves

[Sauron]

I had hoped it was AT LEAST an instructible done from scratch.

 

Yeah, I thought it would be something arduino or rpi based

[comicsansms]

IMO the kid didn't think through what the item looks like and he was calling a transplanted clock "His invention"

He didn't explain to the teacher what it was and because of that got arrested.

The police over reacted and charged him of making a hoax bomb. I believe being charged over the hoax bomb was reasonable, but how the cops escorted him in handcuff was wrong. (I agree that the handcuff was probably got to do with his race)

 

Also the media is a piece of shit, he is getting lots of free shit because he fucked up and the cops did something a bit over the top and most of all, because he is Muslim. 

 

He has won. The school looks like shit and I am guessing that teacher will be fired.

[GoodBytes]

I think he fixed the clock, but that is my opinion based on the evidence I see, and benefit of the doubt. But skipping that

It's more than that. The police didn't allow him a phone call to his parents or lawyer, which they can't do. When you go for interrogations the police doesn't take a picture of you and finger print you, he was.

[Trik'Stari]

I think he fixed the clock, but that is my opinion based on the evidence I see, and benefit of the doubt. But skipping that

It's more than that. The police didn't allow him a phone call to his parents or lawyer, which they can't do. When you go for interrogations the police doesn't take a picture of you and finger print you, he was.

Two words.

 

"Patriot" Act

[Snadzies]

if i brought my school chromebook to school and they opened it up it would look pretty much like that clock and i should be arrested

 

Arrested, no, and I don't think the kid with the clock should have been arrested, but if you mounted the components in to an unusual case and brought it to school I for sure would expect you to have it confiscated, be questioned by the staff, possibly by the principal, and told that you should leave such things at home unless instructed to bring them.

Depending on the situation I wouldn't think it totally unreasonable to have the police called in to have someone look at the device to make sure it isn't dangerous or part of something that is dangerous.

 

If I brought something to school like either of the items we're talking about I don't expect anyone to just accept me saying "Oh it is just (normal consumer electronics item), it isn't harmful and I wasn't going to do anything with it."

[xXChaoticSymphonyXx]

I may have missed the part where there was proof that all this kid did was actually take apart the clock currently being shown from the 80's and transplant it into a new box, if so my apologies but otherwise its just assumed that is what took place. For all we know he could have had a box of random parts from all sorts of things, picked up, taken apart, given to him or just the hodgepodge yardsale bin crap bought for him and he was unlucky enough to put it back together without knowing it all came out of the same thing... He is a kid afterall so its not beyond the realm of some doubt.

[Snadzies]

 

this is sally a robot my school's robotics team built if it was in that texas school they would have been arrested so fast

 

edit: bottom line is that the school and police had no grounds to believe that it is a bomb (this robot is more probable to be a bomb) whether he made it or not is irrelavent to the argument and they clearly didnt think it was a bomb as they didnt evacuate the school or call the bomb squad. arresting him was wrong and they have nothing to blame but themselves

 

Your robot was made as part of a school activity, likely overseen by school staff.

If you were at any school in the US and brought that in with out any prior notice I 100% expect people to be very concerned about what it is.

I wouldn't expect anyone to know what that was for if that was their first time seeing it or to know if it did or did not pose any danger.

[spartaman64]

Your robot was made as part of a school activity, likely overseen by school staff.

If you were at any school in the US and brought that in with out any prior notice I 100% expect people to be very concerned about what it is.

I wouldn't expect anyone to know what that was for if that was their first time seeing it or to know if it did or did not pose any danger.

lot of students also brought in their quadcoptors to show off so they should have gotten those confiscated 

[Snadzies]

lot of students also brought in their quadcoptors to show off so they should have gotten those confiscated

 

If they were brought to school outside of a designated school function I 100% expect them to be confiscated, and if they were home made and clearly not produced consumer items that you could buy, then I would not be surprised if people were to get called in to have a look at it.

 

There are times and places where such items are acceptable to have and bring but if you bring those items any other time people will have concerns.

 

If I were to go to my local convention center when they were having a knife show no one would bat an eye if I were to go to the meet/trade hall, set up a table and open a case of knives or swords.

If I were to go to the convention center when there was no knife show, set up a table and opened a case of knives and swords I expect to see the police show up in a pretty short order.

 

If you want to argue that those are clearly potentially dangerous items then replace knife show with Baking show and knives and swords with home made candy and chocolates.

At the very least you'll likely have security question you about the items and told to leave.

If there is any concern about what is in the candy and chocolates they likely detain you and have the items looked at by someone who is more knowledgeable about such things.

 

 

TL:DR.

If you have something that is out of place for the situation don't be surprised to have people be concerned about what you have and what you're doing.

[SpaceNugget]

so you expect him to mine silicon copper and making his own clock from scratch of course he didnt do that. and anyone with knowledge of how a bomb works knows it doesnt resemble a bomb at all and they know it isnt a bomb if they thought it was a bomb the school would have been evacuated 

No, I expect if someone says they made something that they actually contributed a majority of the construction of the finished product though, he put a store-bought clock in a store-bought box, which in his own words, he just bought from target. You think that all of the stuff this kid is getting is going to turn him from a liar into an actual inventor? The reason this is upsetting to a lot of people is that it sure as hell looks like a circle-jerk of people taking advantage of a situation and expecting congratulations for it.

[AnonByDesign]

The entire story is manufactured, not real.

Let's start with the clock itself. The clock was not a homemade clock but an old alarm clock from the 70s that was gutted out and put on a briefcase. From the get go the kid is not an inventor of any kind. Kids much younger than him have done much better inventions so in the invention department he is not special.

"But what about muh police brutality and muh islamaphobia."

Settle down darling, settle down.

That part of the story was also manufactured.

You see the kid first showed his "invention" to his engineering teacher but he told him to not show it to others because it looks like a fake bomb. What does the kid do then? Make it look like a bomb by having the wires all over the briefcase and connecting it so it goes off as in the alarm goes off. His English teacher did what you do in Hoax Bomb situations and refer to the authorities. The Cops took him not to be arrested but to question him and tell him that hoax bombs are not cool. The famous pic of him getting arrested was manufactured by them in order to have a photo to pass around.

"Okay so the clock is fake and the arrest was fake. Anything else?"

As a matter of fact, there is.

The kid's father is a Sufi Muslim businessman with ties to the CIA and with presidential aspirations in Sudan. There's a move in the intelligence community to have Sufis in power on muslim countries because they think they would be easier to control. This entire operation was nothing more than propaganda to boost the businessman PR in the west. Why do you think Obama was so quick to support the kid? It's all manufactured, everything is fake.

As to guys like Zuckerberg and Microsoft well, they are either in on it or just want some sweet PR. Both are known Obama administration supporters and conspirators so it can go either way.

[Henry]

Well, its not too hard to. Building a clock is surprisingly easy, I built a timer circuit when I was 16(it wasn't a clock per say, but it still kept time and had functions).

Your profile pic is distracting...

[GoodBytes]

Let's start with the clock itself. The clock was not a homemade clock but an old alarm clock from the 70s that was gutted out and put on a briefcase. From the get go the kid is not an inventor of any kind. Kids much younger than him have done much better inventions so in the invention department he is not special.

If you look at what he does. He plays with circuitry. Takes buttons from 1 circuit board, and uses these button with the circuit boards attached to control another circuit board to something. He is a ticker. Does it work? Probably not, but the point is that he is fascinated by it. He is 14 years old.

He doesn't have an embedded system, and probably have little to no idea what it is as he was never introduced to it. All his circuit boards and cable and all stuff are scraps. Either he picks up old electronics from the streets, or gets it from somewhere (maybe a family member has an old electronic repair shop), he has a soldering and does stuff. From what I see, he seams to repairs more than 'invent'. He just plays around. When I was a kid at that age yes I develop software, was it good? nope. But I didn't care one bit, I did it because I had fun. Some of software I did where modified examples from books. Did I went out and sale it as new idea? No. But I did show it to people.

He is a kid being a kid, that is all. The clock had NOTHING to do with anything. It was the fact the way he was treated.

You see the kid first showed his "invention" to his engineering teacher but he told him to not show it to others because it looks like a fake bomb.

Nope. His engineering teacher did NOT say this. He said that other professors might not understand what it is, and to keep it for himself. He did EXACTLY that.

What does the kid do then? Make it look like a bomb by having the wires all over the briefcase and connecting it so it goes off as in the alarm goes off.

He didn't do it after. If the clock didn't beep, no one at school would have known. But it did, in English class. He had to turn it off.

His English teacher did what you do in Hoax Bomb situations and refer to the authorities.

An alarm clock beeping sounds like an alarm clock beeping. Why would a bomb beep in any case? "WARNING, I am a BOMB! I am about to explode! Preparing to explode.... preparing.. please stand by.... Your life is important to me for mass impact! Please stand by!" No! Stop preparing, and just blow up already.

His device had no ignition, no substance. If he wanted to do a hoax bomb, then use beige/gray color Play-doh with 2 rods coming out of it, with wires connected to something. At least that you can say.. "ok maybe". But it is an alarm clock. Nothing more, nothing else.

The Cops took him not to be arrested but to question him and tell him that hoax bombs are not cool. The famous pic of him getting arrested was manufactured by them in order to have a photo to pass around.

No. That is not what happened. He fell into a fight with the English teacher calling his thing a bomb, which then was put him and his thing with the principal for several hours into the same room. The Police arrived, looked at his box, arrested him with handcufs, thrown into jail, without sentencing, picture taken and finger print taken, interrogated with no access to call his parents or lawyers. The parents should be next to the kid. The kid was bullhide by the police, and that is illegal. They are many recorded cases of even adults admitting to the police of crimes they didn't do because they were severely bullied. And now in court that person need to prove his innocent instead of defending himself of being convicted of the crime. Lucky for him, he hold together, and didn't give in.

The kid's father is a Sufi Muslim businessman with ties to the CIA and with presidential aspirations in Sudan. There's a move in the intelligence community to have Sufis in power on muslim countries because they think they would be easier to control. This entire operation was nothing more than propaganda to boost the businessman PR in the west. Why do you think Obama was so quick to support the kid? It's all manufactured, everything is fake.

Ah yes, CIA. You cant' have a conspiracy theory without the CIA. Read:

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/16/9339063/ahmed-mohamed-elhassan

The quick response from the president is because of previous events that highlighted racism issue in the U.S.

As to guys like Zuckerberg and Microsoft well, they are either in on it or just want some sweet PR. Both are known Obama administration supporters and conspirators so it can go either way.

Everyone likes companies, and most finds a place that they think they'll fit in. The U.S has 2 political parties... gee, what are the odds that they are links between people and certain political parties.. oh yea! 50%.

[Trik'Stari]

-mega-snip

The quick response from the president is because of previous events that he and the media highlighted to give the appearance of racism issue in the U.S.

-snip

Fixed that for you.

[ivan134]

The entire story is manufactured, not real.

Let's start with the clock itself. The clock was not a homemade clock but an old alarm clock from the 70s that was gutted out and put on a briefcase. From the get go the kid is not an inventor of any kind. Kids much younger than him have done much better inventions so in the invention department he is not special.

"But what about muh police brutality and muh islamaphobia."

Settle down darling, settle down.

That part of the story was also manufactured.

You see the kid first showed his "invention" to his engineering teacher but he told him to not show it to others because it looks like a fake bomb. What does the kid do then? Make it look like a bomb by having the wires all over the briefcase and connecting it so it goes off as in the alarm goes off. His English teacher did what you do in Hoax Bomb situations and refer to the authorities. The Cops took him not to be arrested but to question him and tell him that hoax bombs are not cool. The famous pic of him getting arrested was manufactured by them in order to have a photo to pass around.

"Okay so the clock is fake and the arrest was fake. Anything else?"

As a matter of fact, there is.

The kid's father is a Sufi Muslim businessman with ties to the CIA and with presidential aspirations in Sudan. There's a move in the intelligence community to have Sufis in power on muslim countries because they think they would be easier to control. This entire operation was nothing more than propaganda to boost the businessman PR in the west. Why do you think Obama was so quick to support the kid? It's all manufactured, everything is fake.

As to guys like Zuckerberg and Microsoft well, they are either in on it or just want some sweet PR. Both are known Obama administration supporters and conspirators so it can go either way.

[HalGameGuru]

Just as an aside.

 

http://www.tickld.com/t/1271722

[ivan134]

If you look at what he does. He plays with circuitry. Takes buttons from 1 circuit board, and uses these button with the circuit boards attached to control another circuit board to something. He is a ticker. Does it work? Probably not, but the point is that he is fascinated by it. He is 14 years old.

He doesn't have an embedded system, and probably have little to no idea what it is as he was never introduced to it. All his circuit boards and cable and all stuff are scraps. Either he picks up old electronics from the streets, or gets it from somewhere (maybe a family member has an old electronic repair shop), he has a soldering and does stuff. From what I see, he seams to repairs more than 'invent'. He just plays around. When I was a kid at that age yes I develop software, was it good? nope. But I didn't care one bit, I did it because I had fun. Some of software I did where modified examples from books. Did I went out and sale it as new idea? No. But I did show it to people.

He is a kid being a kid, that is all. The clock had NOTHING to do with anything. It was the fact the way he was treated.

Nope. His engineering teacher did NOT say this. He said that other professors might not understand what it is, and to keep it for himself. He did EXACTLY that.

He didn't do it after. If the clock didn't beep, no one at school would have known. But it did, in English class. He had to turn it off.

An alarm clock beeping sounds like an alarm clock beeping. Why would a bomb beep in any case? "WARNING, I am a BOMB! I am about to explode! Preparing to explode.... preparing.. please stand by.... Your life is important to me for mass impact! Please stand by!" No! Stop preparing, and just blow up already.

His device had no ignition, no substance. If he wanted to do a hoax bomb, then use beige/gray color Play-doh with 2 rods coming out of it, with wires connected to something. At least that you can say.. "ok maybe". But it is an alarm clock. Nothing more, nothing else.

No. That is not what happened. He fell into a fight with the English teacher calling his thing a bomb, which then was put him and his thing with the principal for several hours into the same room. The Police arrived, looked at his box, arrested him with handcufs, thrown into jail, without sentencing, picture taken and finger print taken, interrogated with no access to call his parents or lawyers. The parents should be next to the kid. The kid was bullhide by the police, and that is illegal. They are many recorded cases of even adults admitting to the police of crimes they didn't do because they were severely bullied. And now in court that person need to prove his innocent instead of defending himself of being convicted of the crime. Lucky for him, he hold together, and didn't give in.

Ah yes, CIA. You cant' have a conspiracy theory without the CIA. Read:

http://www.vox.com/2015/9/16/9339063/ahmed-mohamed-elhassan

The quick response from the president is because of previous events that highlighted racism issue in the U.S.

Everyone likes companies, and most finds a place that they think they'll fit in. The U.S has 2 political parties... gee, what are the odds that they are links between people and certain political parties.. oh yea! 50%.

Facts? Logic? Rationality? Get that shit outta here!!!

[Trik'Stari]

Just as an aside.

 

http://www.tickld.com/t/1271722

Doesn't matter. Remember, white people aren't people according to the left. The only time they're useful is if they're apologizing for their history that they had nothing to do with since they weren't alive when it happened.

[rimazk123]

Being a muslim, I find this very disappointing...

[Mahigan]

Holy cow...

 

The degree of race baiting, in this thread, is unfathomable. Who cares? Move on... geez louise.

[MageTank]

Holy cow...

 

The degree of race baiting, in this thread, is unfathomable. Who cares? Move on... geez louise.

Yeah. People are angry that the kid is getting attention, and yet they give him more attention. I really don't care anymore. I have decided to ignore the news until the Aliens eventually invade. 

[Dabombinable]

Yeah. People are angry that the kid is getting attention, and yet they give him more attention. I really don't care anymore. I have decided to ignore the news until the Aliens eventually invade. 

Your supposed to be the voice of reason......

[MageTank]

Your supposed to be the voice of reason......

People don't need Batman. They need Harvey.

[Kamina]

Who cares if he did or did not? Most people will tear apart already made electronics and use the items. Maybe he taught himself to solder with this, or figuring out what parts of the PCB do what. He's learning, and this is how people learn.

 

People need to get the stick out of their ass and just drop it. The kid is going to get a good chance to advance his life and we should leave it at that no matter the circumstances.

I don't like dishonest people that try to gain publicity.