LTT Official Folding Month VI

[TylerD321]

4 minutes ago, justpoet said:

If CPU folding, this is easy.  in FAH Control, go set the thread count from -1 (automatic) to the number you wish to dedicate to F@H.  If you want to basically never think about it, do 1 less thread count than you have physical cores.  That way you'll always have a full non-hyperthreaded core for all your "now" tasks, and more hyperthreading to spin up for other things.  This will keep the system responsive while still folding, and generally without a ton of folding loss too.

Unfortunately I am GPU folding or I would do this. Do feel free to mail me some new epyc/threadrippers though and I will get right on that  

 

[TheoreticalHybrid]

27 minutes ago, TylerD321 said:

I'd be more likely to fold long term if I had a dedicated PC for it or had a way to lock FAH to 50% gpu utilization.

Yeah, I've been looking around for some kind of way to define a scheduling solution. Would like to set it and forget it on idle folding, but rest easy knowing it'll get a break after a couple hours or something

[Alex Atkin UK]

13 minutes ago, TheoreticalHybrid said:

Yeah, I've been looking around for some kind of way to define a scheduling solution. Would like to set it and forget it on idle folding, but rest easy knowing it'll get a break after a couple hours or something

AFAIK giving it a break every couple of hours is more likely to cause hardware failure as there will be more heating/cooling cycles.  Its one of the frustrating things about when WU downloads are slow, as I'd rather keep the cards under load at all times. Although technically every checkpoint is probably causing cooling cycles at the silicon level anyway and gaming is even more erratic, but I'd like to think the heat soak in the heatsink at least helps reduce this impact as it wont cool as quickly.

 

If all you want is to reduce power consumption, limit the power or clock rate of the card.  Of course if you want to actively use the card for 3D work during this time, its not very helpful.

 

The strange thing is, looking at the FAHCoreWrapper in the logs it appears the F@H cores DO have a way to limit GPU usage, its just not exposed to us.

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FS00:Running FahCore: /usr/bin/FAHCoreWrapper /var/lib/fahclient/cores/cores.foldingathome.org/openmm-core-23/centos-7.9.2009-64bit/release/0x23-8.0.3/Core_23.fah/FahCore_23 -dir 02 -suffix 01 -version 706 -lifeline 2093 -checkpoint 15 -cuda-device 0 -gpu-vendor nvidia -gpu -1 -gpu-usage 100

 

[Mxyzptlk]

1 hour ago, TheoreticalHybrid said:

Yeah, I've been looking around for some kind of way to define a scheduling solution. Would like to set it and forget it on idle folding, but rest easy knowing it'll get a break after a couple hours or something

Lars done g at home plug-in works for me.  You can schedule when to run F@H

[Catzzye]

WAIT folding month... is not a month long event???? DAMNIT I'm out of the game for inactivity Sadly couldn't fold the days I wasn't home and last few days put my activity in red I'm sure..

[Needfuldoer]

14 minutes ago, Catzzye said:

WAIT folding month... is not a month long event???? DAMNIT I'm out of the game for inactivity Sadly couldn't fold the days I wasn't home and last few days put my activity in red I'm sure..

Are you sure you didn't pass the participation threshold?

 

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Minimum Participation Requirements For Prizes

20 Days with activity*, 500,000 Points & 40 WU

(*activity is defined as completing at least 1WU for the 24 hour period)

These must be met DURING the five weeks of the event. Points produced before the start date do not count!

You don't have to fold every day, just a minimum of 20 days over the span of the event.

[southpaw516]

12 minutes ago, Catzzye said:

WAIT folding month... is not a month long event???? DAMNIT I'm out of the game for inactivity Sadly couldn't fold the days I wasn't home and last few days put my activity in red I'm sure..

 

By my hand count you have more than 20 days and 500,000 points

 

Edit: And lars has your Work units month to date at 113, so you should be fine.

[Gorgon]

2 hours ago, TheoreticalHybrid said:

Yeah, I've been looking around for some kind of way to define a scheduling solution. Would like to set it and forget it on idle folding, but rest easy knowing it'll get a break after a couple hours or something

See This:

 

[Captainmarino]

3 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

AFAIK giving it a break every couple of hours is more likely to cause hardware failure as there will be more heating/cooling cycles.  Its one of the frustrating things about when WU downloads are slow, as I'd rather keep the cards under load at all times. Although technically every checkpoint is probably causing cooling cycles at the silicon level anyway and gaming is even more erratic, but I'd like to think the heat soak in the heatsink at least helps reduce this impact as it wont cool as quickly.

 

If all you want is to reduce power consumption, limit the power or clock rate of the card.  Of course if you want to actively use the card for 3D work during this time, its not very helpful.

 

The strange thing is, looking at the FAHCoreWrapper in the logs it appears the F@H cores DO have a way to limit GPU usage, its just not exposed to us.

 

The  cards definitely decrease momentarily in clock speed but it's such a short period of time, the die temp never decreases any appreciable amount. I leave both cards on 24/7 and the temp drops a few degrees between WU. There's no way that amounts to anything in terms of heating/cooling cycles in the grand scheme of things

[Alex Atkin UK]

5 minutes ago, Captainmarino said:

The  cards definitely decrease momentarily in clock speed but it's such a short period of time, the die temp never decreases any appreciable amount. I leave both cards on 24/7 and the temp drops a few degrees between WU. There's no way that amounts to anything in terms of heating/cooling cycles in the grand scheme of things

Software monitoring wont react fast enough to show the REAL die temp from such a short pause.  If it drops dramatically after a few seconds, you know its dropping quite a bit in a few ms too.

But I have to assume letting it drop to idle over several hours is a worse cooling cycle than a few ms as it gives the entire structure of the card time to change.

[RollinLower]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

See This:

 

this guy has all the answers i swear! every time i wonder "hmm maybe i can do XXX to help me run folding more efficiently" you already made a guide for that particular thing months ago

[southpaw516]

It was fun watching @whiskey_foxtrot_626 move up the threat list, but it's finally over.

 

 

[Catzzye]

Ahh thank you guys southpaw516 and Needfuldoer.
It's a relief! Gunning for the 25M mark until the end!

[Alex Atkin UK]

Its not over for 25 hours and 41 minutes!  Plenty of time to get a few more WUs in.

[Mxyzptlk]

[BiotechBen]

Folding month go BRRRRR 

[cbigfoot]

point validation complete remember 24 more hours till we finish!!!

[Alex Atkin UK]

53 minutes ago, BiotechBen said:

Folding month go BRRRRR 

Damn, not sure exactly what ours is but I suspect about 29.252p per kWh plus 62.804p per day.

 

So that's something like £760 (~$960) over the event, if my consumption had been consistent from start to finish!

 

Not sure if it will be more or less given I started off using less but them there's the electric cooker, microwave, coffee machine, electric shower, tax and possibly still the green levy?  Plus its going up again in January.

 

 

They're having a laugh, how does anyone use only 2700kWh in a year? Maybe if you're never at home and have solar.

 

I calculated our estimate based on 2160kWh in a month!

[cbigfoot]

21 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Damn, not sure exactly what ours is but I suspect about 29.252p per kWh plus 62.804p per day.

 

So that's something like £760 (~$960) over the event, if my consumption had been consistent from start to finish!

 

Not sure if it will be more or less given I started off using less but them there's the electric cooker, microwave, coffee machine, electric shower, tax and possibly still the green levy?  Plus its going up again in January.

 

 

They're having a laugh, how does anyone use only 2700kWh in a year? Maybe if you're never at home and have solar.

 

I calculated our estimate based on 2160kWh in a month!

LOL i am averaging 1.7 MWH this billing cycle...

[GOTSpectrum]

As is customary for this event please go to This Link for the song of celebration

 

 

[cbigfoot]

1 minute ago, GOTSpectrum said:

As is customary for this event please go to This Link for the song of celebration

 

 

 

[Needfuldoer]

2 hours ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Its not over for 25 hours and 41 minutes!  Plenty of time to get a few more WUs in.

Ah'm givin' 'er all she's got, cap'n, but she ain't got no more ta' give!

[GOTSpectrum]

And for my usual ritual meal after the last "normal" blog post 

[dogwitch]

got last 1 day cpu wu! foe the last day!

[Captainmarino]

2 hours ago, BiotechBen said:

Folding month go BRRRRR 

4.975?!?!?!?!